https://heavennet.net/members/toby/activity/ Activity feed for toby. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 7ac6de21b09fa031e1455ec0972af66b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/just-brought-to-my-attention/page/49/#post-298252 Wed, 16 May 2012 00:49:08 +1200 Quote (toby @ May 16 2012,11:21)not one of judgment…Bod, I made a mistake with that. There is judgment. But it's towards the unfair treatment of others. (Ok, no more posting from me! Take care Bod.)

]]> 71abf1697c5bcd0f9e3e1055b7804ec0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/just-brought-to-my-attention/page/49/#post-298246 Wed, 16 May 2012 00:26:49 +1200 Ed. I had so much to say to help you. Now my mind has gone blank! Ok, I'll leave it then. Take care. Later. – Shimmer.

]]> 92fdd26cf51d6e4c664b183310475a6e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/just-brought-to-my-attention/page/49/#post-298243 Wed, 16 May 2012 00:21:07 +1200 Bod. I remember when I used to see thing's differently way back when I used to post to you. Years ago. Since then I have been confused. I see all of these debates up here as the cause. Which is why I have locked myself out of being able to post as Karmarie or Shimmer. So here I am now still finding a way to post. But that has to stop.Bod, Love is…[Read more]

]]> c166bbe8f3734ac9cdd208e9441274d4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/just-brought-to-my-attention/page/49/#post-298056 Mon, 14 May 2012 22:27:23 +1200 Ed…  I have nothing further to say. Except that i was taken a long way away from what I used to believe, or how I used to see things. I'm only just returning to where I once was, thanks to things like music. I do not believe that we, as believers, are supposed to be judging 'The World' . Because Paul says, God is the judge of the World.Jesus…[Read more]

]]> 42a2f40687a1d43edf70580cb5098d3b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/toronto-blessing/page/4/#post-294505 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 03:35:27 +1200 Posted for Shimmer:”Hi Kathi. That's true.And thanks, all the best to you too. Take care.”

]]> cbadbd46ee212c08d2703a318bf51959 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/toronto-blessing/page/3/#post-294281 Sun, 22 Apr 2012 22:27:01 +1200 Posted on behalf of Shimmer:“Hi Kathi.Quote Quote “Nothing supernatural should be felt by the senses, but by the spirit. . .Counterfeits of today are generally wrought upon the soulish – or sense life – of believers who have not learnt to distinguish between soul and spirit.” Jessie Penn Lewis The Spiritual Warfare, pgs. 16-17Healing is…[Read more]

]]> 76ed4fc0752bdb1f859a329d6fa948c0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-jesus-became-the-anointed-of-god/page/21/#post-291690 Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:42:30 +1200 Hi Shimmer.You said: Quote (Eventually MAN puts Himslef (sic) in the temple of God (The temple is the body/the self) and makes – who?  Himself, out to be God.Yes, some people desire there to be Human Gods so that they can call themself one.It is clear there are ones that are CALLED Gods as meaning 'having power and authority over others' – BUT it…[Read more]

]]> 11bfe4b09d61bd8bf609e045b56b1b4b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-jesus-became-the-anointed-of-god/page/19/#post-291327 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 07:20:44 +1200 Hi Mikeboll,You said, Quote Quote But he is referred to as 'A Man'.He is never referred to as being a human being after he ascended.  Read the OP of the thread.So now a man is not a human being?Well, at least you didn't disagree with the rest of what I said – well done!(p.s. I think you will find that a Man is of Mankind, a Soul, a Human Being -…[Read more]

]]> a219b827a0fb994b5fdc2f63d2f2cebe http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-jesus-still-a-man-in-heaven/page/34/#post-291245 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:32:43 +1200 Hi Mike.The thread comment has raised an interesting point:Is Jesus a Man in Heaven?Well, it is said that he is a Spirit and therefore not a Man.But he is referred to as 'A Man'.How can this be?Well, Perhaps he is a SPIRIT in Spirit Realm – but – when he comes into the physical realm he becomes a Man?Now what is the difference between a Man and a…[Read more]

]]> 8a8f8cd26d1e25edbf92f65d99d63d48 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/23/#post-291244 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:29:07 +1200 Hi Kerwin.You said:Quote Toby,Was the body, Adam and Eve had before the fall, natural or spiritual?The Scriptures is not clear on this matter.The certain things we know is that Adam and Eve were sinless and destined to live forever in their created state.By eating from the forbidden tree they forfeited their everlasting life.However, it was not…[Read more]

]]> 036c539398f950c7663dfaf6623f6272 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-jesus-became-the-anointed-of-god/page/18/#post-291243 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:18:18 +1200 Hi EDJ,I would agree that 'Entity' is a good word to use: 'Entity that is Jehovah, God Almighty'. Exodus 4:14-16:'Then the anger of the LORD was kindled against Moses and he said, “Is there not Aaron, your brother, the Levite? I know that he can speak well; and behold, he is coming out to meet you, and when he sees you he will be glad in his…[Read more]

]]> 61fb000f436055f400c642e4728badd7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-jesus-became-the-anointed-of-god/page/18/#post-291242 Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:16:24 +1200 Hi Mike.You said:Quote Gene,Is 9:6 says Jesus will be called a mighty god.  John 1:1, 1:14, 1:18, and 20:28 are all fulfillments of this prophecy.  But let me move on by having you compare these two scriptures:Job 1:6One day the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them.Psalm 82:1God stands in the a…[Read more]

]]> 3c3e4a15874fefeb894023a1d28ab91b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-jesus-became-the-anointed-of-god/page/17/#post-291090 Mon, 09 Apr 2012 11:10:00 +1200 Hi EDJ,Let me clarify: I use the word 'Person' not in the sense of a Human Being (A Spirit in a Body) but just to represent 'HIM to whom I am referring'.I do know the problem of saying 'Person' when referring to that which is Spirit but there is no other term that I am aware of to use.Additionally, it could be credited that 'Person' is used to…[Read more]

]]> da8cb0ca578f398a98d1059d05865d9b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/23/#post-291085 Mon, 09 Apr 2012 10:23:35 +1200 Ah, so back to the thread topic!What can we conclude from Scriptures:1) The Spiritual Body is the body raised from the dead by the power from Heaven (The Holy Spirit)2) it is 'reBORN' of the Spirit as Immortal, Imperishable, Glorious and empowered as said by Apostle Paul: 'Flesh conceives flesh, Spirit conceives Spirit' and Jesus says: 'One must…[Read more]

]]> 80226de3da616833afd3d83858b08bbb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-jesus-became-the-anointed-of-god/page/16/#post-291054 Mon, 09 Apr 2012 08:50:48 +1200 Hi All,Thank you to those who acknowledged my post in positive tones.It's actually off-topic but seemed a timely input.I think too many people get a hang up about the word 'God' because it is used primarily as the title of 'Almighty Jehovah' and whatever our leaning (even Atheists and Skeptics) the word strikes an element if fear and respect (as…[Read more]

]]> e9c996db0388afef5b6b13a26afcee6b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-jesus-became-the-anointed-of-god/page/15/#post-290874 Sun, 08 Apr 2012 22:14:15 +1200 Hi All.It might be wise to understand that anyone or anything called 'god' who is not Jehovah must not be regarded in the same context as the 'God' Jehovah.To be a 'god' just means 'To have power and authority'.All who are 'god', but not Jehovah, are GIVEN their 'Power and Authority' by Jehovah.Bear in mind that the word 'God' is capitalised by…[Read more]

]]> 41dde912b99fabb9c8d54e1ebbec7059 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/21/#post-290872 Sun, 08 Apr 2012 21:55:43 +1200 Mikeboll,You said:Quote Quote (toby @ April 07 2012,16:32)What happened to the (so called) 'Spiritual Body' you say Jesus previously had in Heaven?Toby, this seems to be the main point of your post, so I'll address it ONCE AGAIN:What happened to the Word of God who emptied himself and was made flesh?The answser to my question is also the answer…[Read more]

]]> 5508e36a15f866b5ff9025989fb78611 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-jesus-became-the-anointed-of-god/page/14/#post-290798 Sun, 08 Apr 2012 07:29:53 +1200 Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 08 2012,04:57)Quote (toby @ April 05 2012,20:30)It appears that you 'walk away' because you cannot answer ……………..Toby,Are you posting in this thread to support Ed in his claim that there is LITERALLY only one god mentioned in scripture?Or are you here merely because you saw a place where you could make yet…[Read more]

]]> f1d8f8e331948328776bd112bd556e70 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/20/#post-290761 Sat, 07 Apr 2012 22:42:17 +1200 Mikeboll,You said:Toby:Quote You agree that that body was Flesh and Bone (as Scriptures says)Quote Yes – the same one he died in.according to Scriptires, was there any perceivable difference to the body of Jesus after he was raised from the dead as compared to before he died?Quote What scripture speaks of an angel's “temporary body”?Mikeboll, I…[Read more]

]]> 9101f7608d7e5ba8e471384a5fed299f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/19/#post-290760 Sat, 07 Apr 2012 22:35:02 +1200 Hi Gene,Isn't it strange that Jesus explicitly and unambiguously says: “The Kingdom of God is within you!” in Luke 17:20-21.Yet another person in this forum says that it is not so.When someone so plainly dismisses what Christ himself says in plain words, is there any wonder that other plain and unambiguous things said is Scriptures are also denied…[Read more]

]]> f7f2b5b0ce93495dde6cdf5ae137347e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/19/#post-290759 Sat, 07 Apr 2012 22:32:59 +1200 Mikeboll, permit to respond to your baseless and inciteful accusations:By the way, there is nothing stopping you from not answering the posts if you cannot answer the questions nor accept the corrections to your false ideology – indeed you take pride in NOT ANSWERING what is asked of you as will be demonstrated below.And the other thing is that…[Read more]

]]> c2c7cb3857f630f324df3e779e5911a3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/19/#post-290601 Sat, 07 Apr 2012 06:59:36 +1200 Hi Mike,You said:Quote 1.  Phil 3:21 says Paul is anxious to have his lowly body transformed into a glorious body like Jesus has.Paul is indeed 'anxious' for the transformation. But to what body?What does Scriptures (not your wild imaginings) say is the Glorious Body?Is not the Glorious Body that same 'Heavenly Body'? Is not the same word…[Read more]

]]> 3b1f9dd7cfc79646c3bfca4293418ecf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/18/#post-290502 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:50:34 +1200 Hi Mikeboll.You said:Quote Toby:Quote So you are saying that Jesus was raised up from the dead in a 'Spirit Body'?But Mikeboll, Jesus showed that 'Spirit Body' to his disciples and said 'Touch me (my 'Spirit Body' as you would say). See that I am not a Spirit (Being)'.Not at all.  It is clear from Luke 24 that Jesus was raised from the dead in a…[Read more]

]]> 15338dfdd04959caef78ec42020c6e8e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/18/#post-290501 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:48:45 +1200 Mikeboll,You said:Quote toby:Quote Hi Mikeboll,You said to Kerwin: Quote (mikeboll @ 64)God can change Jesus from a spirit being which can not die into a flesh being which can, but the body surrounding him is more precious than him, and therefore can't be allowed to die like the beloved Son that was in that body?This is hilarious.So Mikeboll, you…[Read more]

]]> 72d5c474fbbdc45e898c4a7185548d46 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/18/#post-290494 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:24:05 +1200 Hi Mikeboll,You said:Quote Toby:Quote So whereever it is written 'Inherit' we can change it to 'Enter' and where it says 'Kingdom of God' we can change it to say 'Heaven'?Interesting idea.That's not what I said at all, now is it Toby?So just what is it you said, Mikeboll. Perhaps if you try writing what you really mean then what people think you…[Read more]

]]> 32496c3cabdbc383596c490139cf141f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-jesus-became-the-anointed-of-god/page/13/#post-290266 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 02:30:42 +1200 Hi Mikeboll,You said: Quote Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2012,11:21)See Ed?  This is why I usually walk away from you (like I do Toby).Rubber Ball!!It appears that you 'walk away' because you cannot answer or give a weak argument and until you can figure a way that feels like a response.Even when you asked me not to use your name in any post…[Read more]

]]> e9fb4d59eb0a20831dfa18940acf6648 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/17/#post-290258 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 02:21:20 +1200 Mikeboll,You said, Quote Quote Hi MB,You say”God can change Jesus from a spirit being which can not die into a flesh being which can, but the body surrounding him is more precious than him, and therefore can't be allowed to die like the beloved Son that was in that body”What is this stuff from?Not the bibleNick,First read the post to which I…[Read more]

]]> fedead84c371febfaf8b11718a3fd2c3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/17/#post-290220 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 01:36:39 +1200 Mikeboll,You said:Quote I usually quote the words as they are written:  “inherit the Kingdom of God”.  But I believe, as I think most sensible people do also, that the phrase Paul used refers to “entering heaven”, where one can inherit God's Kingdom.So whereever it is written 'Inherit' we can change it to 'Enter' and where it says 'Kingdom of G…[Read more]

]]> e3b426b87b2a0a9d68622fe7fcb7bb64 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/17/#post-290214 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 01:34:25 +1200 Hi Mikeboll,You said:Quote As I've showed you many times, one of the definitions of “spiritual” is “belonging to a spirit”.Mikeboll, you know that the way you read it is nonsense. How can a Spirit have a body when it is defined as not having a body?What is the opposite of 'Spiritual'? Does Scripture not say 'Natural'?So, by your definition,…[Read more]

]]> 55cc95bbf7c0face13089f6243c05b3b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/17/#post-290210 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 01:30:55 +1200 Hi Mikeboll,You said to Kerwin: Quote God can change Jesus from a spirit being which can not die into a flesh being which can, but the body surrounding him is more precious than him, and therefore can't be allowed to die like the beloved Son that was in that body?This is hilarious.So Mikeboll, you are saying the (non-existent) Spiritual Body of a…[Read more]

]]> f58d8f8c9c8d4431b9e9167958a3b2b1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/was-jesus-created/page/28/#post-290206 Fri, 06 Apr 2012 01:27:39 +1200 Hi All,Jammin said: Quote the thread can now be locked. it has been answered several times. Christ is not created. col 1.15 refers to supremacy of Christ . also, the rev 3.14Jammin is right that 'Christ' was not created. The word 'Christ' means 'he who saves' or 'Saviour' and is a TITLE.The topic question refers to 'Jesus'. The person of 'Jesus'…[Read more]

]]> cb814aa0a37a3f9484da7b570558f37d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/was-jesus-created/page/25/#post-289913 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 21:35:39 +1200 Hi All,Sorry I didn't respond earlier to the 'Good post, Toby' and ''Good point, Toby' before.- Thanks EdJ and Nick and Kerwin and all others.

]]> 8c268fb28eb7e2cad7d8ce9f0bc59276 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/was-jesus-created/page/25/#post-289855 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 10:49:56 +1200 Hi Mikeboll,You said:Quote Quote (toby @ April 02 2012,23:45)Yes, Jesus was Created.Thank you.  No further questions.You may just want people here to say 'yes and no' to you as you can then craft what designer ideology you like by this but this is not a courthouse that you should make a dismissive statement such as 'No further questions' – in…[Read more]

]]> 053c2bb9562d70d26c3a4bb6f3f4d348 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-was-caught-up-to-heaven-in-flesh-body/page/3/#post-289854 Wed, 04 Apr 2012 10:22:39 +1200 Hi Kerwin,What has led you to this conclusion concerning Scriptures about Enoch being 'Not Found', and what Apostle Paul said.Apostle Paul said he did not know 'whether the man he boasts about Was in his Body or out of his Body when he was caught up to “PARADISE” (The third Heaven) and heard unspeakable things'You re-interpret 'Paradise' to say…[Read more]

]]> ecfc33362ab82e8e7ffbf392160e8b5e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-was-caught-up-to-heaven-in-flesh-body/page/2/#post-289738 Tue, 03 Apr 2012 22:04:41 +1200 Hi Kerwin,You said: Quote One of the passages they use is the clause flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven.  The ignorant and corrupt interpret it to mean the material cannot enter heaven but you know better and yet you still hold to their flawed conclusions.   What passages from the Bible, do you still believe support the h…[Read more]

]]> 175eea9ea690d5875c8c822eacf1c707 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/15/#post-289676 Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:54:14 +1200 Whoa, Hold on Mikeboll64,You said:Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 03 2012,12:06)Quote (kerwin @ April 02 2012,19:04)Where is your support for angels being non-material beings?How about the fact they are called “spirits” as opposed to “humans”?This means they are “spirit BEINGS”, just as we are “human BEINGS”.Please show one single Scripture verse that…[Read more]

]]> f3fe2e4a19453032dc592784e6d2e3ca http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/15/#post-289675 Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:48:21 +1200 Hi Mike,You said: Quote See?  I've already told you how to find other descriptions of angels in the Bible, yet you want ME to do your homework for you.  Forget it.No, Mikeboll. You said You had proof of the descriptions of the bodies of Spirits in Heaven. It is therefore for You to demonstrate that 'Proof'.Seeing that you have failed to do so – a…[Read more]

]]> 80e2e30e8c872339c5c2e1d13da483cc http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/15/#post-289664 Tue, 03 Apr 2012 06:06:43 +1200 Hi Mikeboll64,You said: Quote Quote (toby @ April 01 2012,19:34)Ok, can I emphasise that I did not write the word 'Drank'.I wrote 'Drunk' and 'Drunk' is what I meant – not 'Drank'.Well, since the English word “drunk” means “inebriated”, then no, water can't be “drunk”.  It can, however, be drank.Now see how easy it is when you correctly…[Read more]

]]> f0d4d7adf79bfee7fd7a778ff8ffa416 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/was-jesus-created/page/23/#post-289661 Tue, 03 Apr 2012 05:45:50 +1200 Hi Mikeboll,You said: Quote Toby, I whole heartedly disagree with your post, and the idea that your “supporting scriptures” actually support your claim about Col 1:15.Thanks. I know I'm right when you say I'm wrong! (That's a little joke – it means 'You are entitled to your personal opinion')Quote Also, it is not Christ who becomes “all in all”,…[Read more]

]]> 80ab15ac7afd02597c564844085d4c09 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/was-jesus-created/page/22/#post-289491 Mon, 02 Apr 2012 21:25:57 +1200 To all.I'm not sure what else Jammin has been saying but I agree that the rendering of the verse:”Colossians 1:15 The One who is preeminent over all creation”is that Jesus is 'First over all that is created by God concerning that which has life which are: (plants, creeping things), Fish, Bird, Animals, Man and Angels'It certainly does not mean…[Read more]

]]> 2f0e9c3fb199f15eaff9992f7a71924a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-was-caught-up-to-heaven-in-flesh-body/page/2/#post-289488 Mon, 02 Apr 2012 21:20:02 +1200 Dear all,I offer my opinion on the topic question after careful consideration:Paul says he knew such a man who was caught up to 'Paradise' (a Wonderful place) fourteen years ago but did not know if such a man was in the body or out the body.Now, look at the first verse: it says he was looking into 'Visions and Revelations'.He also says he cannot…[Read more]

]]> 7ae7aa45d18cccdd8f4fa4b25372182f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-was-caught-up-to-heaven-in-flesh-body/page/2/#post-289486 Mon, 02 Apr 2012 21:17:18 +1200 Hi Kerwin,Apostle Paul says that he 'Did not know'whether the man he knew was in a Body or out of the Body when he was caught up to Heaven.How is it then that you are saying that Paul 'Did know that it was in the body'?Please present your reasoning for this?Paul says he did not know whether in the body or out of the body!Kerwin says 'Yes, Paul…[Read more]

]]> 3361bf7875104c5478acdb435990b46c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/13/#post-289331 Mon, 02 Apr 2012 01:37:32 +1200 Mike,You said: Quote Exodus 2518 And make two cherubim out of hammered gold at the ends of the cover. 19 Make one cherub on one end and the second cherub on the other; make the cherubim of one piece with the cover, at the two ends. 20 The cherubim are to have their wings spread upward, overshadowing the cover with them. The cherubim are to face…[Read more]

]]> d7ebb9529e6cf1e67348a962230f6525 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/13/#post-289328 Mon, 02 Apr 2012 01:34:00 +1200 Quote (toby @ April 01 2012,14:28)Hi Mikeboll,You said: Quote Scripture says that water CAN be drank, and Toby says it can't – without one shred of scriptural proof.Mikeboll, I did not use the word 'Drank'. I said 'Drunk'!!It is just this kind of 'changing of words' that has got you where you are today (and you know where that is!!)Perhaps you are…[Read more]

]]> 77c7ae05a822bafc32d1ed3096cfd6b8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/13/#post-289323 Mon, 02 Apr 2012 01:28:11 +1200 Hi Terraricca,You said:  Quote would this answer be good enough to you ?Terraricca, I'm not sure of what you just said – I think it is best if you don't try to be part of this discussion as it appears you have no idea what you are talking about.By following another person who equally has no idea of what he is saying you have just created yet more…[Read more]

]]> 8e9c693ad4641c992c1aa35c9442e503 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/12/#post-289227 Sun, 01 Apr 2012 20:30:44 +1200 Mikeboll,You said:Quote These examples are more aligned with our disagreement, Toby.  You should really tell it like it is.  So to answer your question, “YES, the fact that scripture speaks of the spiritual bodies and tents of those in heaven, and describes those bodies many times, is not only 'all I have', but also all I need.”The rhetorical q…[Read more]

]]> 87e5057d3f55a74a3dd1ee39360bcfc8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/12/#post-289225 Sun, 01 Apr 2012 20:28:43 +1200 Hi Mikeboll,You said: Quote Scripture says that water CAN be drank, and Toby says it can't – without one shred of scriptural proof.Mikeboll, I did not use the word 'Drank'. I said 'Drunk'!!It is just this kind of 'changing of words' that has got you where you are today (and you know where that is!!)Perhaps you are not as 'Clever' as you think you…[Read more]

]]> d1fb0bc40db8264e1e3fa782fd8d0288 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/12/#post-289224 Sun, 01 Apr 2012 20:26:41 +1200 Hi Gene,You said:Quote Toby……….. Jesus went ot the GRAVE not to the FATHER at all His Spirit went back to who gave it When Jesus died He no longer existed as a LIVING SOUL of any kind He was dead as if he never ever existed and would still be that way Now or forever if GOD did not raise up HIS BODY and Add Spirit back into it.My…[Read more]

]]> b5117b4e91e5f493014c417c2f3763e4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/12/#post-289219 Sun, 01 Apr 2012 20:15:05 +1200 Mike, you ended your post with:Quote peace,mike Mikeboll, you need to demonstrate that 'peace' – not just say it like an after-thought! And make your 'peace' with God through Jesus in Private.

]]> 03c66c6e4eddc19927d1b4f7f64bd6bd http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-spiritual-body-is-flesh-and-bone/page/10/#post-289138 Sun, 01 Apr 2012 04:20:13 +1200 Hi Gene,You said:Quote Toby………> as we have said Spirits do not have Bodies over and over, and they are NOT BODIES of any kind either. IMO peace and love…………………………………………………..geneGene, thank you for your support as far as I said I agree with you.However, can you see that the argument is NOT: 'Are Spirits…[Read more]

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