https://heavennet.net/members/tigger2/activity/ Activity feed for tigger2. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 610a3b264e5aa9cc6e369aa5798ab91a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/which-is-the-truth/#post-381967 Tue, 13 May 2014 01:32:49 +1200 Sorry about the doubling in the above post.“Before the assembling of the council of Nice, Constantine had been persuaded that the Arian doctrine contained a blasphemy against the divinity of Christ, and that the was absolutely required, in order to maintain the dignity of Christ’s person. …. It was nothing but the influence of the emperor Const…[Read more]

]]> e53ebda6f7bc2579056bc2e1c8f12f33 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/which-is-the-truth/#post-381963 Tue, 13 May 2014 01:19:09 +1200 Quote (whitecloud @ June 22 2010,10:43) Quote I do have a question, just for research for the truth;  What resources are  used to  say that the Council of Nicea was organized by Constantine and that he was the only one that had the power to make the decision of the trinity?                     ………Called by and presided over by Constantine: – p…[Read more]

]]> 69e1da32b58b328b39663a647f4479d1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/alpha-omega/page/4/#post-374708 Mon, 24 Mar 2014 01:51:04 +1300 Quote What this thread is about is *WHY* Jesus referred to himself as the “Aleph-Tav”. – Ed J – July 7, 2013. More on the topic of this thread:“In this article, we’re going to look at a part of Hebrew grammar that beginning students often want to know. There’s a particle in Hebrew (אֵת) that isn’t translated into English. This particle indicat…[Read more]

]]> 2dcf7137152e540efd0b2481a5f22291 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/alpha-omega/page/4/#post-374329 Fri, 21 Mar 2014 01:10:24 +1300 Quote What this thread is about is *WHY* Jesus referred to himself as the “Aleph-Tav”. – Ed J – July 7, 2013.………………………..Quote Here is the first verse the “Aleph-Tav” is used:”In the beginning God created את the heaven את and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God mov…[Read more]

]]> edf431a22a4e3be25a49ac1253e07a48 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/724/#post-371804 Thu, 27 Feb 2014 01:14:04 +1300 Quote GIVE ME ONE PROOF FROM THE OT. THAT GOD THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD?Peace and love in JesusCharles Jer. 10:10 – But Jehovah is the true God; he is the living God, and an everlasting King: at his wrath the earth trembleth, and the nations are not able to abide his indignation. – ASV.Is. 64:8 – But now, O Jehovah, thou art our Father; we…[Read more]

]]> c44135cc502d1781d63411455ae430cb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/seven-lessons-for-john-11c/#post-371793 Thu, 27 Feb 2014 00:06:05 +1300 Quote What exactly do you believe?I believe you are avoiding my '7 Lessons' study posted above.

]]> 333b70db817b6e67d28db52bdf4db318 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/seven-lessons-for-john-11c/#post-371775 Wed, 26 Feb 2014 20:34:17 +1300 Wakeup, if you have a specific question about something I have written in my study above, please ask it.I believe the lessons are self-explanatory, but I will answer replies which are specific to what I have written.

]]> 57dd0ad64a8a058f45a616ada729af2a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/seven-lessons-for-john-11c/#post-371753 Wed, 26 Feb 2014 00:43:49 +1300 G. John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.):The Word (ho Logos)A few trinitarians actually attempt to “prove” that John 1:1c should be translated as “and the Word was God” rather than “and the Word was a  god” by appealing to one of the strictly pagan concepts of “The Logos”!  But, as we will see, what it all boils down to (and some of the most authoritativ…[Read more]

]]> 4f8006b3b2a3a30a719722404d521d3b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/seven-lessons-for-john-11c/#post-371752 Wed, 26 Feb 2014 00:29:03 +1300 F.John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.):Origen, the great Christian scholar (185 – 254 A.D.), spoke Koine Greek as his native language and knew it so well that he even taught it professionally.  He was “probably the most accomplished Biblical scholar produced by the early Church” (Universal Standard Encyclopedia) and “the greatest scholar and most prolif…[Read more]

]]> 8739d26569b3500a4a9f7dea927e3165 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/seven-lessons-for-john-11c/#post-371751 Wed, 26 Feb 2014 00:13:28 +1300 E.John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.):The above posts show that word order (predicate noun before the verb as found in the NT Greek of John 1:1c) does not change the meaning to an understood article (“the”) as Colwell’s Rule suggests or to some nebulous ‘qualitative’ meaning as some other trinitarian scholars insist.Pay particular attention to two of th…[Read more]

]]> af5951f3d6abecb2c06a2cf92b8088b3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/seven-lessons-for-john-11c/#post-371750 Wed, 26 Feb 2014 00:03:54 +1300 D.John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.):It’s been many years since I looked up all the clauses in John’s writing which had predicate nouns (also called predicate nominatives).  Then I made a list of all of them which are parallel to John 1:1c (predicate noun coming before the verb).  I didn’t have a computer then and had to use a concordance and an interli…[Read more]

]]> 2255071b0d13c3ae4f1c96484256fdf8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/seven-lessons-for-john-11c/#post-371749 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:57:36 +1300 C.John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.):But, you may ask, Isn’t there a significance to the reversed word order in the Greek (‘god was the word’) which is, in English, ‘the word was god.’?If you will examine a good NT interlinear, you will find that word order is basically meaningless.NT Greek authorities, Dr. Alfred Marshall and Prof. J. Gresham Machen te…[Read more]

]]> 15ab3fbe9b7895c9ef9d41c5190d1ea3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/seven-lessons-for-john-11c/#post-371748 Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:51:09 +1300 B.John 1:1 in NT Greek (cont.):The next step in finding John’s intended meaning of John 1:1c is to look up the meanings of theos in a good NT lexicon.  Numerous Trinitarian scholars admit that this word was also used for angels, kings, and God-appointed men such as judges in Israel.  In such cases it is usually rendered into English as ‘go…[Read more]

]]> fdf7a3a3a5c3dfbf4d4841dbd39e4f7a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/god-is-the-alpha-and-the-omega/#post-368782 Thu, 30 Jan 2014 00:28:13 +1300 From the OP:Quote GOD AND HIS WORD/JESUS IS THE FIRST AND THE LAST.THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA.Isaiah 41:4 Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? ***I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he***.(AND *WITH* THE LAST)(I AM HE).Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, *AND* his redeemer the LORD of…[Read more]

]]> 56e4b98081f6c3224e357b7d4420bcbf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/which-bible-should-i-believe/page/35/#post-365082 Tue, 31 Dec 2013 20:53:36 +1300 Quote I saw a few articles on John 1:1 – but didn't see any writing where you supported the fact that “the Word” in John 1 is Jesus Christ. Have you written anything at all about the pre-existence of Christ? I just took it as a given, and didn’t feel the necessity to examine it.  I believe I did mention in passing that some have taken the lo…[Read more]

]]> cc7095646d627ef3bb825dbfbf58c353 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/which-bible-should-i-believe/page/35/#post-365056 Tue, 31 Dec 2013 04:48:22 +1300 Thank you, Mike. I truly appreciate your kind comments. Yes, all those subjects on the right-hand side listed under ‘Trinity Subjects’ are files I have submitted. My partner and lifelong friend started the blog for me, maintains it, and sometimes adds illustrations. I have also contributed many of the subjects on our other blogs.

]]> 47a1e0cc73688a8fed5576281df35b50 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/which-bible-should-i-believe/page/35/#post-365042 Tue, 31 Dec 2013 01:35:53 +1300 Thanks, Mike.That's my blog, and the studies on it are mine.

]]> 2045628dd4bb343bfa9a8919b15894cd http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/which-bible-should-i-believe/page/35/#post-365040 Tue, 31 Dec 2013 00:04:46 +1300 Quote Kerwin, there are MANY more scriptures that could be misconstrued to say that Moses is God Almighty.  Does it mean that I'm “afraid to test my doctrine” if I refuse to misconstrue those scriptures that way?There are MANY more scriptures that could be used to support a triune God.  Should I throw COMMON SENSE out the window, ignore the m…[Read more]

]]> e605acb6c65fbadef4064ec4e1eb5476 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/691/#post-364684 Thu, 26 Dec 2013 22:40:24 +1300 Quote Tigger2.Do you mean the word beast means living one?wakeup. I mean what the link tells you: the Greek word for “living (one)” is zoon and is mistranslated in some Bibles as “beast.” There is a word for “beast” (or “wild beast”) and that is therion.

]]> 7b8b39836599711dd42cbee7a675d66f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/690/#post-364673 Thu, 26 Dec 2013 21:13:01 +1300 The Greek word in question is zoon which simply means “living (one).” It is Strong's #2226: http://biblehub.com/greek/2226.htm

]]> 24102bb97c3cbe6bbe76818a90f76d2c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/689/#post-364500 Tue, 24 Dec 2013 21:32:49 +1300 Quote But, my friend, it doesn't matter what your reason for quoting it is.  It is still spurious and not proper scripture. http://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.com/2009/08/1-john-57-kjv.html Quote Tigger,It is a blog without either footnotes or endnotes as far as I could see.  Crediting sources is professional and shows that some attempt at s…[Read more]

]]> 0de62ca2a57e98a53c823493c2499835 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/688/#post-364440 Mon, 23 Dec 2013 20:19:03 +1300 Quote Tigger2.For your information.John 5:7 is not there to proof the trinity.I dont go for the trinity myself.It is to proof that Jesus came in the flesh.He was born out of water and blood like all his brethren.He was human.The water and the blood and his spirit is proof.Not some angel posing as flesh.Jesus came out of a woman.There are three…[Read more]

]]> 5613591316e577c8dde7da7df21f50c6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/688/#post-364417 Mon, 23 Dec 2013 01:42:42 +1300 Quote Tigger2.You said: 1 John 5:7 is spurious.Spurious according to whom?1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. HER ARE THREE: WATER;BLOOD;AND SPIRIT. 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear…[Read more]

]]> b33c62304d8b5ca83feaa46da7c1d39e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/687/#post-364413 Sun, 22 Dec 2013 22:52:46 +1300 Gene Balthrop wrote:Quote Jammin………Here is on for you to twist, There are Three that bear witness in heaven , God the Father , the “WORD” and the Holy Spirit, and these three “ARE” ONE. But you boy say they are not “ONE” and the Same, you say Jesus is the word , but this scripture say that is not true It say God and his word “ARE” ONE. Now…[Read more]

]]> 42db0799150cc7884944f6bf514e6496 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bad-news-for-the-jehovahs-witnesses/page/8/#post-363851 Sat, 14 Dec 2013 21:57:31 +1300 Tigger2.Quote Since you believe that the Word of God/Jesus is created.Can you show the scriptures please?wakeup. Just the terms “Father” and “Son” shows that one existed before the other. Also the Son was an “only-begotten” before he came to earth – 1 John 4:9.Col. 1:15 – “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.” – NAS…[Read more]

]]> 92d8e945e6a4bfe4ac19177e7723b2c8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bad-news-for-the-jehovahs-witnesses/page/8/#post-363846 Sat, 14 Dec 2013 21:15:34 +1300 At Heb. 2:8 we read: “8 ‘You have put all things in subjection under his feet.’ For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him.” – NASB.But we know that the Father is not put under Jesus. In fact, it just so happens that this obvious understanding is commented on by Paul:1 Corinthians 15:27 “For HE HAS PUT ALL T…[Read more]

]]> d66cf13c3f4d6c65c59e409bfc27a2f2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bad-news-for-the-jehovahs-witnesses/page/7/#post-363711 Thu, 12 Dec 2013 03:09:11 +1300 Quote Do you believe God created ALL THINGS in heaven? Isn't God one of the things in heaven? Did He create Himself?No. The LOGICAL conclusion is that all things in heaven – EXCEPT FOR GOD HIMSELF – were created by God.Similarly, the LOGICAL conclusion to your perceived dilemma is that all things – EXCEPT THE WORD HIMSELF – were created through…[Read more]

]]> 5d0b327c9729f08ca9bf666162c285af http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/681/#post-363365 Sat, 07 Dec 2013 20:42:51 +1300 Quote It doesn't matter if Jesus' name is 'Jehovah is our Righteousness' or 'Jehovah our Righteousness.' Couldn't He be called by the name 'Jesus is our righteousness?' Also, He could be called 'Jesus our Righteousness.'It would be unlikely that believers call Jesus by the name 'the Father is our righteousness' or 'the Father our righteousness' if…[Read more]

]]> 01e6456d5d7f52ac661181e5d468a8ff http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/a-very-serious-problem-i-have-noticed/#post-363293 Fri, 06 Dec 2013 22:07:39 +1300 Quote The new bibles have been translated by jewishscribes who are antischrists.What in the world are you talking about? Do you have any trustworthy evidence that 'Jews' translated the ASV, RSV, NASB, NAB, NEB, Moffatt's translation, Jay Green's MKJV, Smith and Goodspeed's AT?

]]> 433e43d1e52a106d675bbfa16f1b4af4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/679/#post-363195 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 22:39:38 +1300 Quote tigger2,Since several translations translate this Jer 33:16 as the city being called Jehovah our Righteousness, there may be something to that but other translations do not give it that translation such as the Young's Literal Translation.]If it is correctly translated as the city being called Jehovah our Righteousness, that only means that…[Read more]

]]> 32317ea7462059f78a099367d11cb10b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bad-news-for-the-jehovahs-witnesses/page/7/#post-363185 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 20:42:44 +1300 Quote T2: “The person speaking at Rev. 22:13 is not Jesus.  For proof see my AO study: http://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.com/2009….on.html ” j42: You can't carry this around with you if someone in person hits you with a question unawares.  You must be ready at all times to show that you understand scripture and can explain it simply to t…[Read more]

]]> 599ebe8f26034ada38209f913f5fa77a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/679/#post-363160 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 06:57:56 +1300 Lightenup wrote:Quote tigger2,I was looking at Jeremiah 33:16 and noticed that it is quite different than Jeremiah 23:6. You should examine the Hebrew. There is a preposition 'to' right before 'Jehovah our Righteousness' in regards to 33:16 and no preposition like that in 23:6. Also, 'the name' is not there in 33:16 but it was commonly added by…[Read more]

]]> 8ae9a4a373b8969c5adbd9dffe6d389e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bad-news-for-the-jehovahs-witnesses/page/6/#post-363128 Wed, 04 Dec 2013 04:34:02 +1300 Quote Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Revelation 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna,…[Read more]

]]> aff59806375e70cda872c8ecae082382 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bad-news-for-the-jehovahs-witnesses/page/6/#post-363095 Tue, 03 Dec 2013 19:45:09 +1300 Quote Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.And thank you for correcting my spelling.wakeup. Y…[Read more]

]]> 6aa02cfc624331e2d4a75ae5994a08a0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bad-news-for-the-jehovahs-witnesses/page/6/#post-363060 Tue, 03 Dec 2013 07:18:59 +1300 Oh, and please write 'Baptist' instead of 'Babtist.'

]]> af39ce1ea32ac2ca0ce157dfa73938f5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bad-news-for-the-jehovahs-witnesses/page/6/#post-363059 Tue, 03 Dec 2013 07:16:21 +1300 Quote HE DID NOT SAY: I AM JESUS; NO.BUT: I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA THE FIRST AND THE LAST.THEN IDENTIFIED HIMSELF MORE CLEARLY. I AM HE THAT WAS DEAD;AND AM ALIVE FOR EVER MORE.Please give chapter, verse, and Bible used.

]]> 08e52c17a898fff8203bec13f5fb18b5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/677/#post-363031 Tue, 03 Dec 2013 00:56:54 +1300 Quote Tigger2.Can you use your own words and knowledge?wakeup. Those ARE my own words and knowledge!!

]]> 39e687741bc909ac68062c1d53614df5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-spirit-seems-to-be/#post-363016 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 22:39:37 +1300 http://www.ntgreek.net/lesson16.htm

]]> ef6ae4ed1122e956d2014ff9e4a50d82 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-spirit-seems-to-be/#post-363015 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 22:38:17 +1300 And go to the following site and slide down to “3rd person pronoun.” Notice what auto means: Neuter!

]]> 7bcfe05bf7c52e4a047e04beb9e7f4a1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-spirit-seems-to-be/#post-363014 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 22:32:12 +1300 Or this link: http://fdier.free.fr/Wescott_Hort_Interlinear.pdf

]]> 4b80fcee4fdc45243908edbeb68b7131 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-spirit-seems-to-be/#post-363013 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 22:23:43 +1300 Please read the first 6 paragraphs of my post above (at least) and then click on the link.

]]> b2b54befa6c06dbb8bc5f364624c287a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-spirit-seems-to-be/#post-362995 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 06:28:39 +1300 Quote HE, because he is alive and powerful.We can not address the Holy spirit as IT.That would be blasphemous.wakeup. The only reason “he” and “him” are used here is because of the NT Greek requirement of gender agreement.  That is, if the noun to which the pronoun refers is masculine in the Greek, the pronoun must also be masculine in the Gree…[Read more]

]]> 0bd4a76c76fd727c1c10348176392e69 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/677/#post-362992 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 04:11:46 +1300 Quote Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, **The everlasting Father**, The Prince of Peace.The son of God is called the everlasting Father?Can you explain?wakeup. Yes: See Tigger2 post: Dec. 02 2013,10:42 (page 8)

]]> 56dca6cbe1f7fe84c0054f129b4cd515 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/677/#post-362984 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 02:27:02 +1300 Quote 6In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely; and this is his name whereby he shall be called: Jehovah our righteousness.Jehovah says HIS name shall be called Jehovah our righteousness!! That would be the messiah's name, btw.None of that disproves the many facts presented in my last post. But here is more from my studies…[Read more]

]]> 9629b5539146dee58f910f1e13090453 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/676/#post-362980 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 01:01:13 +1300 The Most High God is Jehovah (YHWH) alone (Ps. 83:18). Jehovah is called the Father (but he is never called the Son, the Firstborn, the Only-begotten, the Christ or Messiah, etc.). Even many personal names of Israelites in the Bible actually said “Jehovah is the Father”: ‘Abijah,’ ‘Abiah,’ ‘Joab,’ etc. or “The Father is God”: ‘Abiel,’ ‘Eliab,’ e…[Read more]

]]> 813a788612979a29ca98cb50185ceb78 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bad-news-for-the-jehovahs-witnesses/page/6/#post-362977 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 00:42:47 +1300 Bad news for the Jehovah’s witnessesFrom the OP:Quote We all have seen the shallow argument which is put forth by the Jehovah's Witnesses. It goes like this, “The Father is the almighty God. But Jesus is lesser in power and is just a mighty God.”….“The JW's admit that Christ is el gibbor. The old testament says that nothing is too difficult for e…[Read more]

]]> 36ee73d31aa55dd995ca610dd05fc97f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/which-bible-should-i-believe/page/18/#post-362803 Fri, 29 Nov 2013 04:28:37 +1300 To look up ra in the Ben Chayyim Text click on the following link and go to the pages indicated below: http://pastorpauley.com/ancient/masoretic.pdf Ra ('adversity' – KJV) Ps 94:13 (p. 846, left end of :13)Ra ('evil' – KJV) Is. 45:7 (p. 543, next to last at left end)

]]> 09874fe546cb1763489d3a2cc4070914 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-greek-septuagint/page/6/#post-365950 Mon, 25 Nov 2013 07:01:46 +1300 the plagiarist

]]> afd20b3edcf7bd8b33f6b35478547727 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-greek-septuagint/page/6/#post-365948 Mon, 25 Nov 2013 06:50:26 +1300 Are you referring to the scionofzion site?

]]> 62a4404d07d397308e5c26fb78f4f92c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/672/#post-362607 Sun, 24 Nov 2013 22:39:48 +1300 “Aramaic Versions (the Targums): These are Aramaic paraphrases of the Old Testament … prepared for use in the synagogue,” – Eberhard Nestle, The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge. Vol. 2, pp. 130-132.“The Targums are interpretive renderings of the books of the Hebrew Scriptures … into Aramaic….“At first the oral Targum was a…[Read more]

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