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				<title>supergeek14 replied to the topic  in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation?</title>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Samuel+Aug. 24 2008,18:31--><b>Quote</b> (Samuel @ Aug. 24 2008,18:31)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Baptism in water unto the name of Jesus Christ is something you do out of &#8220;Faith&#8221;.The baptism of the Holy Ghost and Fire is something that is given to you as a &#8220;Gift&#8221;.If it says in the Bible to be baptized&#8230;we should be baptized.<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->Acts 2:38  	 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-256818"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation/page/9/#post-104052" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>supergeek14 replied to the topic Is baptism needed for salvation? in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Samuel+Aug. 24 2008,18:31--><b>Quote</b> (Samuel @ Aug. 24 2008,18:31)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Baptism in water unto the name of Jesus Christ is something you do out of &#8220;Faith&#8221;.The baptism of the Holy Ghost and Fire is something that is given to you as a &#8220;Gift&#8221;.If it says in the Bible to be baptized&#8230;we should be baptized.<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->Acts 2:38  	 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-186336"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation-36/page/9/#post-209946" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:20:37 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Not3in1+July 02 2008,05:05--><b>Quote</b> (Not3in1 @ July 02 2008,05:05)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Gene Balthrop+July 02 2008,04:33--><b>Quote</b> (Gene Balthrop @ July 02 2008,04:33)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Adam&#8230;&#8230;then i would like to change my vote to NO. How can that be done?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Supergeek,It is clear that many mature Christians here do not believe that water baptism is necessary for salvation.Has no one given you anything that you can use?Is the idea that the water is&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-245801"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation/page/7/#post-102575" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Not3in1+July 02 2008,05:05--><b>Quote</b> (Not3in1 @ July 02 2008,05:05)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Gene Balthrop+July 02 2008,04:33--><b>Quote</b> (Gene Balthrop @ July 02 2008,04:33)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Adam&#8230;&#8230;then i would like to change my vote to NO. How can that be done?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Supergeek,It is clear that many mature Christians here do not believe that water baptism is necessary for salvation.Has no one given you anything that you can use?Is the idea that the water is&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-131109"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation-36/page/7/#post-209925" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:54:04 +1200</pubDate>

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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Not3in1+July 01 2008,16:43--><b>Quote</b> (Not3in1 @ July 01 2008,16:43)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Bro Gene,I&#039;m assuming that the poll is for water baptism, but I could be wrong?  It just seems like that is the topic of conversation &#8211; do all need to be water baptized before they receive salvation?  I say no.  I&#039;m doing OK, thanks for asking.  Dan&#039;s &#8220;recovery&#8221; is going slow and I feel our relationship dying&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-131103"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation-36/page/7/#post-209919" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 01 2008,11:03--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 01 2008,11:03)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Not3in1+July 01 2008,10:57--><b>Quote</b> (Not3in1 @ July 01 2008,10:57)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 01 2008,08:57--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 01 2008,08:57)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi not3, Do you think we should alter the gospel because of weaknesses we think we have found in it?God is merciful to save many outside of the way.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Alter it?  No.But I do believe that when certain ones have come to conclusions based&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-237295"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation/page/6/#post-102555" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 01 2008,11:03--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 01 2008,11:03)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Not3in1+July 01 2008,10:57--><b>Quote</b> (Not3in1 @ July 01 2008,10:57)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 01 2008,08:57--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 01 2008,08:57)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi not3, Do you think we should alter the gospel because of weaknesses we think we have found in it?God is merciful to save many outside of the way.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Alter it?  No.But I do believe that when certain ones have come to conclusions based&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-118956"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation-36/page/6/#post-209905" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:58:51 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Not3in1+July 01 2008,08:49--><b>Quote</b> (Not3in1 @ July 01 2008,08:49)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-supergeek14+July 01 2008,08:19--><b>Quote</b> (supergeek14 @ July 01 2008,08:19)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Not3in1+July 01 2008,08:10--><b>Quote</b> (Not3in1 @ July 01 2008,08:10)<!--QuoteEBegin-->OK, Supergeek, whatever you say.  But it is helpful to broaden your view on things and the world.  You don&#039;t have to buy what you are writing and proving, but it would help you to see another side of the issue.  So many times that is&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-231581"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation/page/5/#post-102551" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Not3in1+July 01 2008,08:49--><b>Quote</b> (Not3in1 @ July 01 2008,08:49)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-supergeek14+July 01 2008,08:19--><b>Quote</b> (supergeek14 @ July 01 2008,08:19)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Not3in1+July 01 2008,08:10--><b>Quote</b> (Not3in1 @ July 01 2008,08:10)<!--QuoteEBegin-->OK, Supergeek, whatever you say.  But it is helpful to broaden your view on things and the world.  You don&#039;t have to buy what you are writing and proving, but it would help you to see another side of the issue.  So many times that is&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-98622"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation-36/page/6/#post-209901" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Not3in1+July 01 2008,08:00--><b>Quote</b> (Not3in1 @ July 01 2008,08:00)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Supergeek,It sure sounds like an aweful lot of evidence out there&#8230;&#8230;  You may want to look at it with an open mind.  Do you know what is helpful for me, and what a professor in college once made a class of mind do?  Pick a topic that you feel very strongly about, and are convinced of it&#039;s merit or rightful&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-231575"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation/page/5/#post-102545" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Not3in1+July 01 2008,07:50--><b>Quote</b> (Not3in1 @ July 01 2008,07:50)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Supergeek,I see you are an Administrator over at another site, as well you have taken a poll there regarding baptism and is it essential for salvation.  The poll percentage reflects the same here as there.  Have you changed your view at all because of this showing?  <!--emo&amp;:;):--><img loading="lazy" src="http://www.heavennet.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" alt=':;):' /><!--endemo--> Also, may I say that I am encouraged that you&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-231573"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation/page/5/#post-102543" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Gene Balthrop+June 30 2008,14:00--><b>Quote</b> (Gene Balthrop @ June 30 2008,14:00)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Nick&#8230;.i just showed you, you just don&#039;t get it. Water baptism does NOT put you to death with Jesus it&#039;s is just symbolic of Spiritual Baptism, cant you see that.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Rom. 6:3 Or are ye ignorant that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?Gal. 3:7 For as many of you as were&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-231571"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation/page/5/#post-102541" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Gene Balthrop+June 30 2008,14:00--><b>Quote</b> (Gene Balthrop @ June 30 2008,14:00)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Nick&#8230;.i just showed you, you just don&#039;t get it. Water baptism does NOT put you to death with Jesus it&#039;s is just symbolic of Spiritual Baptism, cant you see that.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Rom. 6:3 Or are ye ignorant that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?Gal. 3:7 For as many of you as were&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-98612"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation-36/page/5/#post-209891" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-gollamudi+June 30 2008,23:36--><b>Quote</b> (gollamudi @ June 30 2008,23:36)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi SuperGeek,Welcome, your birth day shows you are only 14 is it correct?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yes That is correct. Why do you ask?</p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-gollamudi+June 30 2008,23:36--><b>Quote</b> (gollamudi @ June 30 2008,23:36)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi SuperGeek,Welcome, your birth day shows you are only 14 is it correct?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yes That is correct. Why do you ask?</p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Augustine+June 29 2008,10:19--><b>Quote</b> (Augustine @ June 29 2008,10:19)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->In Eph 2:8,9 it is saying that we aren&#039;t saved by being &#8220;good&#8221; and doing things that are charitable but we are saved by the will of GOD and by faith. And we are baptized by faith.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Ephesians 2:8-9 states that we are saved by faith, and faith alone.  Any type of work does not save us.  Titus 3:5 &#8220;he saved&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-216389"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation/page/3/#post-102516" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Augustine+June 29 2008,10:19--><b>Quote</b> (Augustine @ June 29 2008,10:19)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->In Eph 2:8,9 it is saying that we aren&#039;t saved by being &#8220;good&#8221; and doing things that are charitable but we are saved by the will of GOD and by faith. And we are baptized by faith.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Ephesians 2:8-9 states that we are saved by faith, and faith alone.  Any type of work does not save us.  Titus 3:5 &#8220;he saved&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-75314"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation-36/page/3/#post-209866" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:20:00 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-WorshippingJesus+June 29 2008,10:17--><b>Quote</b> (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2008,10:17)<!--QuoteEBegin-->The question is unclear for the survey.What Baptism, water or the Spirit? <!--emo&amp;???--><img loading="lazy" src="http://www.heavennet.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif" alt='???' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Water.Also like you Avatar. (trekie for life)</p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-WorshippingJesus+June 29 2008,10:17--><b>Quote</b> (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2008,10:17)<!--QuoteEBegin-->The question is unclear for the survey.What Baptism, water or the Spirit? <!--emo&amp;???--><img loading="lazy" src="http://www.heavennet.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif" alt='???' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Water.Also like you Avatar. (trekie for life)</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:33:09 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Not3in1+June 29 2008,04:51--><b>Quote</b> (Not3in1 @ June 29 2008,04:51)<!--QuoteEBegin-->OK, brother&#039;s back to the topic huh?  <!--emo&amp;:;):--><img loading="lazy" src="http://www.heavennet.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" alt=':;):' /><!--endemo--> Supergeek,Here are some jewels in Ephesians for salvation by faith alone and not by water baptism:<b>Ephesians 1:13And you were also included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation.Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the&hellip;</b><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-179052"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation/page/2/#post-102504" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Not3in1+June 29 2008,04:51--><b>Quote</b> (Not3in1 @ June 29 2008,04:51)<!--QuoteEBegin-->OK, brother&#039;s back to the topic huh?  <!--emo&amp;:;):--><img loading="lazy" src="http://www.heavennet.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" alt=':;):' /><!--endemo--> Supergeek,Here are some jewels in Ephesians for salvation by faith alone and not by water baptism:<b>Ephesians 1:13And you were also included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation.Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the&hellip;</b><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-75332"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation-36/page/3/#post-209854" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:53:52 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+June 28 2008,08:50--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2008,08:50)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi SG,It is the way.God requires our obedience to his demands. Men cannot see why, or are too proud to submit sometimes. They may find themselves at the wedding feast wrongly dressed as we are clothed in Christ in baptism.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->This link is really about sials but it may help you understand&lt;a&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-76363"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation-36/#post-209834" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:53:52 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+June 28 2008,08:50--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2008,08:50)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi SG,It is the way.God requires our obedience to his demands. Men cannot see why, or are too proud to submit sometimes. They may find themselves at the wedding feast wrongly dressed as we are clothed in Christ in baptism.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->This link is really about sials but it may help you understand&lt;a&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-29734"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation/#post-102484" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:46:36 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+June 28 2008,08:40--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2008,08:40)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi SG, Short answer NO.God can and does save many by mercy alone.The way of Jesus . YESWhen belief is mentioned it is obedient belief.Acts 16 29Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,  30And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-76361"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation-36/#post-209832" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:01:46 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Irene+June 28 2008,07:28--><b>Quote</b> (Irene @ June 28 2008,07:28)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-supergeek14+June 28 2008,07:18--><b>Quote</b> (supergeek14 @ June 28 2008,07:18)<!--QuoteEBegin-->This is my first post on here so if it is a little rough don&#039;t get mad.I was wondering what you all thought about this subject? Do we need to be baptized or is it just a symbol?I myself believe we are not saved without being baptized because of the following verses:Mark&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-76358"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation-36/#post-209829" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:18:17 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my first post on here so if it is a little rough don&#039;t get mad.I was wondering what you all thought about this subject? Do we need to be baptized or is it just a symbol?I myself believe we are not saved without being baptized because of the following verses:Mark 16:16  He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-76356"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-baptism-needed-for-salvation-36/#post-209827" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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