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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Is belief in the Trinity essential for salvation? in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 04:33:56 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->If belief in the Trinity is necessary for salvation (which I do not agree with), why does he not include that in the Gospel messages he preaches?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Belief in the Trinity is not necessary for salvation.  In fact, John wrote the Gospel of John with the purpose that people would know that Jesus is the Son of God.  His purpose was not that people&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-143968"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-belief-in-the-trinity-essential-for-salvation/page/2/#post-57238" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Matt 28:19? Article - What do you think? in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 23:57:45 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-WorshippingJesus+June 27 2007,18:23--><b>Quote</b> (WorshippingJesus @ June 27 2007,18:23)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hello&#033;Eusebius never said that Matt 28:19 was not in the Ancient text&#033; He simply said that the RCH changed there baptismal formula.Matt 28:19 is &#8220;Unambiguous&#8221; and is in thousands of the ancient copys.The following is some info on the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-67128"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/matt-2819-article-what-do-you-think/#post-334886" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott started the topic Matt 28:19? Article - What do you think? in the forum</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 05:30:05 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Go ye, and make disciples of all nations in my name&#039;&#039; Matthew 28:19 as Quoted by Eusebius Pamphili (~260 &#8211; 340 A.D.)  words : …that, the Apostles themselves never obeyed this command; and in the rest of the New Testament there is no hint as to it ever having been obeyed by anyone. Baptism * was always in the name of the one person of the Lord J&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-394937"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/matt-2819-article-what-do-you-think/" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:42:03 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi 942767,Here&#039;s a comment by Spurgeon on God forseeing faith:&#8221;But,&#8221; others say, &#8220;God elected them on the foresight of their faith.&#8221; Now, God gives faith therefore He could not have elected them on account of faith, which He foresaw. If there were twenty beggars in the street, and I determine to give one of them a dollar, will anyone say that I&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-28365"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/free-will/#post-55445" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Did Jesus really die for all? in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:09:09 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-chosenone+June 13 2007,13:53--><b>Quote</b> (chosenone @ June 13 2007,13:53)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi 942767 &amp; sscott.      When scripture says &#8220;God will be All in all&#8221;.  I didn&#039;t see that addition &#039;in the body of Christ, and not all humanity&#039;, that you added on.  We must be very carefull to not add to God&#039;s word.  (Rev. 22:18) &#8220;If ever anyone is appending to them, God shall be appending to him the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-335015"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/did-jesus-really-die-for-all/page/4/#post-55417" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Election in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:24:20 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;that&#039;s really interesting.   I&#039;ve never read that before.  It seems to line up with many scriptures that speak of election though. Can you send me the link to read it online?</p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Election in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:49:16 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve read some of Spurgeons writing on this subject.  Here is what he says regarding &#8220;God forseeing faith&#8221; in his article on Election.&#8221;But,&#8221; others say, &#8220;God elected them on the foresight of their faith.&#8221; Now, God gives faith therefore He could not have elected them on account of faith, which He foresaw. If there were twenty beggars in the street,&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-217660"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/election/#post-55354" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Did Jesus really die for all? in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:47:21 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If God wanted all to be saved could He not having given ALL the &#8220;Spirit&#8221; from birth as He did John the Baptist?  What God did for one could He not have done for all?  When Jesus said He will draw ALL men to Himself He was speaking of the mystery that Paul explains in Romans.  The Mystery that the Gentiles would be grafted in as well and become one&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-334541"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/did-jesus-really-die-for-all/page/3/#post-55353" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Election in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:23:43 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the others will not marvel because they were believers.  that passage seems to imply that those people were not written in the lambs book of life from the foundation of the world.</p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Election in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:13:46 +1200</pubDate>

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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Election in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 02:39:36 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Scriptures to think on:Rev 17:88 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, <b>whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world,</b> when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.</p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic  in the forum Free Will?</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:56:35 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-kenrch+Feb. 24 2007,00:42--><b>Quote</b> (kenrch @ Feb. 24 2007,00:42)<!--QuoteEBegin-->No one comes to Jesus unless the Father draws him.  God knows the heart.  All are called but few are chosen.  If you are not ready to accept Jesus then the Father doesn&#039;t draw you.  Sadly some try to come to Christ because of peer pressure which ends up making Christianty look bad,  because the seed is not deeply&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-156027"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-has-no-spiritual-free-will/page/2/#post-55065" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic  in the forum Free Will?</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:48:23 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was already settled&#8230; a done deal.  predestined.</p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic  in the forum Free Will?</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:11:55 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev 17:8The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those <i>who dwell on the earth</i> will marvel, <b>whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world,</b> when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.</p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Election in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 15:36:56 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-seekingtruth+May 30 2007,23:15--><b>Quote</b> (seekingtruth @ May 30 2007,23:15)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->I believe all men are foreordained to the adoption of sons in that Christ died for all men. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->What scriptures do you gather this from?  Thanks.Also, anyone else have thoughts on this?</p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Universal Salvation in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:27:39 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Kupchuk+Mar. 07 2007,07:06--><b>Quote</b> (Kupchuk @ Mar. 07 2007,07:06)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi Nick,  Judgement is just that, not condemnation, it is just the penalty.  If it is the &#8220;Lake of fire&#8221; (the second death), then when death is abolished, all will live.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->If all will be saved then Christ death means nothing.   If Jesus came to just free men from some torment then He could have stayed in&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-231802"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/universal-salvation/page/2/#post-44551" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic A cold in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 03:56:07 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI Ciara,Here, listen to this.  It will help take your mind off your cold.  <a href="http://www.zshare.net/audio/martyrs-prayer-mp3.html" rel="nofollow ugc">Martyrs Prayer</a></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 01:27:48 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-sscott+Dec. 29 2006,05:18--><b>Quote</b> (sscott @ Dec. 29 2006,05:18)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-942767+Dec. 29 2006,05:09--><b>Quote</b> (942767 @ Dec. 29 2006,05:09)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi sscott: A couple of other thoughts come to mind on this topic.  One, James 1:13 states: &#8220;Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:  But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust,&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-26430"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/satan-14/#post-35545" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 05:18:10 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-942767+Dec. 29 2006,05:09--><b>Quote</b> (942767 @ Dec. 29 2006,05:09)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi sscott: A couple of other thoughts come to mind on this topic.  One, James 1:13 states: &#8220;Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:  But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed&#8221;.  If God is&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-26429"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/satan-14/#post-35518" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 02:02:02 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-942767+Dec. 29 2006,01:14--><b>Quote</b> (942767 @ Dec. 29 2006,01:14)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi scott:My understanding is that the devil is the spirit that entered into the world by Adam and Eve when they disobeyed God.God Bless<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Thanks for the thorough reply.  Do you believe he was created as an evil spirit from the beginning?</p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic when Heaven and angels created? in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 18:37:04 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-david+Dec. 27 2006,09:11--><b>Quote</b> (david @ Dec. 27 2006,09:11)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>JOB 38:4-7“Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth? Tell , if you do know understanding. Who set its measurements, in case you know, Or who stretched out upon it the measuring line? Into what have its socket pedestals been sunk down, Or who laid its cornerstone, When the morning stars joyfully cried o&hellip;</b><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-279123"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-heaven-and-angels-created/#post-35402" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic when Heaven and angels created? in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 04:49:39 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t seen any scriptures that state angels existed before the 7 days of creation&#8230;before the &#8220;beginning&#8221;.</p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic  in the forum The Trinity Doctrine</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 00:12:08 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-sscott+Dec. 26 2006,23:51--><b>Quote</b> (sscott @ Dec. 26 2006,23:51)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Dec. 26 2006,23:45--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 26 2006,23:45)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi sscott, fair enough. Gen 1 encompasses eternity too.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.Eternity?&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-40673"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-scripture-only-discussion/page/3/#post-35326" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic  in the forum The Trinity Doctrine</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:51:27 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Dec. 26 2006,23:45--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 26 2006,23:45)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi sscott, fair enough. Gen 1 encompasses eternity too.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.Eternity?  Or 7 days.  Gen 1,2 about the first 7 days.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:43:24 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 In the beginning God created the heaven<b>S</b> and the earth.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:40:21 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Dec. 26 2006,23:30--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 26 2006,23:30)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi sscott, Why should life begin at Genesis1?God and spiritual creation didn&#039;t begin then did it?That seems to be time the VISIBLE creation began.Gen 1&#8243; 1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.  2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-40666"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-scripture-only-discussion/page/2/#post-35319" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic  in the forum The Trinity Doctrine</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:28:30 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Dec. 26 2006,23:04--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 26 2006,23:04)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi sscott, Jb 38&#8243;4Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.  5Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?  6Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;  7When the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-40664"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-scripture-only-discussion/page/2/#post-35317" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic  in the forum The Trinity Doctrine</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:52:34 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Dec. 26 2006,22:48--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 26 2006,22:48)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi ST, The beginning &#8220;of creation&#8221; is adding to the Word. God and His family of Sons and angels existed prior to physical creation as shown in Jb 38. We are part of the last plan of God it would seem.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Where does it show that?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2006 05:05:44 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-seekingtruth+Dec. 25 2006,00:41--><b>Quote</b> (seekingtruth @ Dec. 25 2006,00:41)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Actually I&#039;m going through the other trinity threads and as I find a scripture I post it and add my comments/interpretation. I hope to sort them out later and classify them into seperate lists of scriptures; those that seem to support trinity, another list that seem to disprove it, and ones that can go&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-40644"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-scripture-only-discussion/#post-35181" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2006 02:53:11 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-942767+Dec. 25 2006,02:21--><b>Quote</b> (942767 @ Dec. 25 2006,02:21)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi sscott:I know you addressed Nick, but if I may say that according to JFB commentary on crosswalk.com study tools, the oldest manuscripts omit the clause: &#8220;I am Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last; and&#8221; for Rev. 1:11.The NIV does not read this way.  I hope this helps.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Thanks.  I just went and looked it up&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-29591"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/alpha-omega-first-last/#post-35179" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2006 00:32:36 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-seekingtruth+Dec. 24 2006,13:04--><b>Quote</b> (seekingtruth @ Dec. 24 2006,13:04)<!--QuoteEBegin-->First thing I need to make it clear I&#039;m not part of the administration of this site and with that said what I&#039;m doing may be against some rules. If so I accept whatever discipline needs to be assigned to me.This seems to be the hottest topic going and worth discussion. But with the other threads on this&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-40642"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-scripture-only-discussion/#post-35174" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Alpha Omega First Last in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2006 00:28:56 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Dec. 24 2006,18:06--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 24 2006,18:06)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi Sscott, There is none before and none after God in anything. There is none before and none after the Son under God in terms of creation.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->so who do you think is saying rev 1:11?</p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic Jesus Christ is God in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:43:26 +1300</pubDate>

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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:37:03 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Dec. 18 2006,18:32--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 18 2006,18:32)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi sscott, Yashua is the firstborn son.He will be the last and only Son of man when all his sheep are gathered into Him.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->So you don&#039;t think that &#8220;First and the Last&#8221; is the same as &#8220;Alpha and Omega&#8221;?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:18:14 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-sscott+Dec. 18 2006,16:44--><b>Quote</b> (sscott @ Dec. 18 2006,16:44)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-WorshippingJesus+Dec. 18 2006,06:34--><b>Quote</b> (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 18 2006,06:34)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->The Rev 1:8 verse might be the Father Speaking.Notice Rev 1:4Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead,&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-277138"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-christ-is-god-8/page/18/#post-34657" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:44:19 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-WorshippingJesus+Dec. 18 2006,06:34--><b>Quote</b> (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 18 2006,06:34)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->The Rev 1:8 verse might be the Father Speaking.Notice Rev 1:4Grace to you and peace from Him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-271726"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-christ-is-god-8/page/17/#post-34649" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 04:57:44 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-WorshippingJesus+Dec. 18 2006,04:23--><b>Quote</b> (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 18 2006,04:23)<!--QuoteEBegin-->t8<b>polytheism&#8230;.the worship of or belief in more than one deity, especially several deities</b>In your explanation you did exactly what cults do. You explained away the truth.Mighty God&#033; Is there another? You want to say Jesus is mighty God and the Father is almighty God.How about this&#8230;<b>Rev 1:8I am Alpha&hellip;</b><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-271719"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-christ-is-god-8/page/17/#post-34637" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic 5 Questions in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 06:00:28 +1300</pubDate>

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				<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:23:44 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-WorshippingJesus+Dec. 16 2006,01:14--><b>Quote</b> (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 16 2006,01:14)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->If the Son was given eternal lifehe cannot already have had eternal life? <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->NH Show me in the scriptures where the Son was given eternal life&#033;Inference is a poor witness to truth.  <!--emo&amp;:)--><img loading="lazy" src="http://www.heavennet.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" alt=':)' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Go look up John 5:26 on blb.org.  The word for life is Zoe:zoe {dzo-ay&#039;} TDNT Reference Root Word TDNT &#8211; 2:832,290&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-153150"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/5-questions/page/5/#post-34495" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 23:11:06 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->I Jn 1:2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The Son is the source of Eternal life to all who believe because He has received life in Himself from the Father.26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-153142"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/5-questions/page/5/#post-34476" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:23:15 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-WorshippingJesus+Dec. 15 2006,22:13--><b>Quote</b> (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 15 2006,22:13)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->Yes.. at the time of John 1:1 the word was WITH God.  Though at some point He was brought forth from the Father. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Hi SscottProceding from God dosnt mean having his beginning or origin from God.<b>Jn 8:42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I **proceeded forth** and came&hellip;</b><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-153138"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/5-questions/page/5/#post-34469" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:23:28 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi sscott, The Word was WITH Godnot IN God<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yes.. at the time of John 1:1 the word was WITH God.  Though at some point He was brought forth from the Father.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:07:30 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-WorshippingJesus+Dec. 15 2006,06:21--><b>Quote</b> (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 15 2006,06:21)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->Yes.  The Father forsaking the Son on the cross is a huge problem for the Trinity Doctrine.  The Trinity Doctrine states that God is One Being yet made of Three Distinct Persons.  If one of the members of the Trinity is not there then you do not have God because God is one which is made up of&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-165715"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/5-questions/page/4/#post-34433" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 05:20:52 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-WhatIsTrue+Dec. 14 2006,21:40--><b>Quote</b> (WhatIsTrue @ Dec. 14 2006,21:40)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Is 1:18,Just in case you missed it, I asked this question on page 14 of the &#8220;Jesus Christ Is God&#8221; thread:<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->Why do you say that sscott&#039;s questions are only appropriate for a modalist?  Do you not refer to the &#8220;one&#8221; god that you worship with singular pronouns such as &#8220;he&#8221;, &#8220;him&#8221;, or &#8220;himself&#8221;?  Or, is it&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-165711"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/5-questions/page/4/#post-34429" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic How could Christ have the possibility of failure? in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:58:51 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-WorshippingJesus+Dec. 11 2006,21:42--><b>Quote</b> (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 11 2006,21:42)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->Labels come in so handy.  By labeling others one no longer has to try to understand their view or search the scriptures. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->SscottThen why didnt you say something like this to the Arians for their constant use of the label Trinitarian? <!--emo&amp;:)--><img loading="lazy" src="http://www.heavennet.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" alt=':)' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I don&#039;t know anyone on here that labels their self as an Arian.&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-346397"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/how-could-christ-have-the-possibility-of-failure/page/19/#post-34140" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:02:27 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Cult Buster+Dec. 11 2006,11:54--><b>Quote</b> (Cult Buster @ Dec. 11 2006,11:54)<!--QuoteEBegin-->sscott.I have considered those verses and to be honest they do not prove your point.“for I proceeded forth and came from God;”“I came out from God.””I came out from thee.”I believe that you are reading something that isn’t there perhaps because of your own Unitarian bias.It simply means that Christ was wi&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-247683"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-christ-is-god-8/page/12/#post-34115" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:29:48 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Cult Buster+Dec. 11 2006,06:29--><b>Quote</b> (Cult Buster @ Dec. 11 2006,06:29)<!--QuoteEBegin-->sscott. The last post was for NH but you posted before my reply.<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->Can I post 5 questions I posted on another site to get explanations of how they fit with the Trinity Doctrine? <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->You are welcome to post whatever you please. This forum is for you also.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Ok..I&#039;ll start a new thread.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:27:26 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Cult Buster+Dec. 11 2006,06:16--><b>Quote</b> (Cult Buster @ Dec. 11 2006,06:16)<!--QuoteEBegin-->sscott<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->If you can explain the scriptures I posted then I would be glad to listen to you.  If you can only ignore the scriptures posted and quote other scriptures then you might as well just go talk to a wall. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->As I mentioned to you before I will address your concerns.Now you explain Isaiha 9:6<b>Isa 9:6&hellip;</b><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-247680"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-christ-is-god-8/page/12/#post-34071" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic How could Christ have the possibility of failure? in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Cult Buster+Dec. 11 2006,06:08--><b>Quote</b> (Cult Buster @ Dec. 11 2006,06:08)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. </b>The scripture here is referring to Christ as God.  He is referred to by all the names&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-346465"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/how-could-christ-have-the-possibility-of-failure/page/17/#post-34069" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>sscott replied to the topic How could Christ have the possibility of failure? in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 05:50:01 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Cult Buster+Dec. 11 2006,05:46--><b>Quote</b> (Cult Buster @ Dec. 11 2006,05:46)<!--QuoteEBegin-->sscott<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->&#8220;The everlasting Father, &#8220;Is Jesus the Everlasting Father Cult Buster?Yes or No will do. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Who is Isaiha 9:6 referring to?Who was born?Whose  name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace? <b>Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son&hellip;</b><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-346462"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/how-could-christ-have-the-possibility-of-failure/page/17/#post-34065" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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