https://heavennet.net/members/seminarian/activity/ Activity feed for seminarian. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 fc219f3b9ede55788988f522ecc13030 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/there-are-2-not-3/page/4/#post-25390 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:08:34 +1200 Quote (Is 1:18 @ July 16 2004,08:12)Firstly, I don't believe that the Holy Spirit is currently in heaven. He's here on earth indwelling His church. Since you disagree with my interpretation, perhaps you might do me a favour and enlighten me with the “real meaning” of the verses. You dont have to explain them all to me, Mat 3:16,17, 2 Cor 13:14 and…[Read more]

]]> fd210ded982d352970ac551b5bb89b25 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/book-of-revelations/page/5/#post-41783 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:37:14 +1200 Welcome Karen,Very fine post Mercy.  The point is, MANY churches do not believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God. The Catholic church is foremost among these as they give their traditions equal weight with scripture.  They refer to events cited in the Bible as “stories” given similar credibility as one of Aesoph's Fables.You might wish t…[Read more]

]]> 1b04950319878b3012a02c5e4fbcdfe7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/catholicism/page/11/#post-25365 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:01:56 +1200 Quote (Robyn † @ Aug. 21 2006,18:32)Quote (seminarian @ Aug. 21 2006,17:51)If Nick is wrong or somehow uninformed as to scripture, it is your duty to correct him……….Nope..Nick is right… and so are you semmy. Everything is right because you think it..therfore it is correct and Gods way.Hi Robyn,You reply here only proves my point even mor…[Read more]

]]> 40935f0c4f0af4143e6f5f1334aab6e3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-soul/page/27/#post-25343 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 03:29:17 +1200 Hey Nick and Heiscomingintheclouds,This came up in minister certification class last week.  What a debate!  These are the points I raised and the instructor could not refute it. I believe the Bible teachesthat our spirit or breath returns to God such as when Stephen was martyred in Acts and called for the Lord Jesus to receive his s…[Read more]

]]> d2cbb7a1a9137cf7e1732737a0356cc9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jehovahs-witness-church/page/3/#post-25342 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 03:04:00 +1200 Quote (t8 @ Aug. 22 2006,05:58)These are the facts:There is one Body/ChurchIts head is Christ JesusThe JWs are a body just as the Catholics are tooBut neither are the Body of Christ, rather the bodies of manThe Church came into being approx 2000 years ago and the gates of hell would not prevail against her.The JWs came into being recently, not…[Read more]

]]> 40234e91bebc4b91db1d662007cde382 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/son-of-perdition/page/4/#post-41399 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:56:58 +1200 Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Aug. 23 2006,01:34)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 23 2006,01:22)Hi H, Are we not even allowed to be berean about your contributions? wowNick, Your post claimed the posts that I posted were my opinions. The problem is I can not take credit for them and if I were to do so, I would be a liar. If the posts are untrue, then…[Read more]

]]> da797a1d7c36cc0477b8d46d190fd09d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/catholicism/page/8/#post-25140 Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:51:36 +1200 Hi Robyn,I just wanted to say bless you and my seminary's director is Catholic even though the studies are ecumenical.  He is one of the most knowledgable people I know on how to live the Gospel of Christ even if I do not agree with all of his theology.You mentioned belief in the Nicene Creed?  Did you know that the Catholic Church also wrote t…[Read more]

]]> 2ceef30861c4a2fbc3ecdba3ee4ae452 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/finding-a-church/page/4/#post-25024 Sun, 20 Aug 2006 04:17:58 +1200 Is,The pastor in question is an obvious apostate for slandering in the firstplace is he not? Therefore the scriptures which apply to a “brother in Christ”do not include someone who accuses the brethren like Satan.Wow, thanks for the clarification on E-Maniac's action figure!Yours is even worse. Pokemon I assume? Grow up please, both of you.…[Read more]

]]> 1523db48ff74d2c5a3620aea5fde0ca8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-book-of-enoch/page/3/#post-25019 Sun, 20 Aug 2006 03:35:28 +1200 My 2 cents?In Jesus' time, the Gospel accounts are full of demons inhabiting humans and giving them super human strength such as the man who approached Jesus after having broken his chains.This is well after Noah's day when angels DID apparently have the power to form human bodies for themselves in order to co-habit with the daughters of men,…[Read more]

]]> 365f02b3c0e4e1a40a89faeb8fbb10e0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-holy-spirit/page/31/#post-25014 Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:46:04 +1200 Quote (t8 @ Aug. 19 2006,11:04)Quote (Oxy @ Aug. 19 2006,20:20)But to me the word trinity has only ever been a way of saying 3.  Nothing more.Hi Oxy,But do you not think it a little suspicious that the 1st commandment is that the Lord thy God is one God, yet today many say he is 3 or triune. Q: What happened between then and now that made people…[Read more]

]]> e719c7a2b83fafa8a8c6e3ed477095ff http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-holy-spirit/page/31/#post-25012 Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:36:44 +1200 Quote (Guest @ Dec. 21 2004,03:09)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 21 2004,02:40)The Father has never been on earth .If this is true then how do you explain Gen 3:8, 18:1….Guest,The Bible does not contradict itself. It clearly says that:”God is NOT a man…nor the son of man.” in both Numbers 23:19 and Hosea 11:9Here's another example similar to your…[Read more]

]]> 8840ffc5d0430373c59a5f643937844c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/finding-a-church/page/4/#post-25011 Sun, 20 Aug 2006 02:08:55 +1200 Ah E-Maniac,Those pastors have masters of divinity degrees.  What do YOU have behind your name besides Jr.?That's not the point.  They could not win a debate to prove the so called trinitybecause it is just not in the Bible.  What the Bible DOES say, (over and over), is thatJesus is the SON OF GOD.  See, it's that simple.  You can't make some…[Read more]

]]> 6417090d062f0a0d1e9fae464cf2df9d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/rapture/page/4/#post-24579 Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:26:24 +1200 Let me weigh in here…..The Bible clearly teaches that Christ's return will catch people unawares.  In other words it will be a surprise event.  How is Christ's return going to be a surprise event when we are in tribulation for seven years?  I mean just start counting down for 7 years to his return from then!Kenrch you wrote:Ty,”So you agree th…[Read more]

]]> 3c8cfbe90e0635b3d987e15a928832e7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-holy-grail/#post-23991 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 15:25:31 +1200 H,I agree but this is nothing new.  Especially since Emporer Constantine, who was a pagan up until his death bead baptism by Arius.  Constantine had his wife and son executed and himself carried the title Sol Invictus or the Invincible Son God.  His father and mother were likewise pagans.That's why it was nothing more than a Hollywood publicity st…[Read more]

]]> 25ba4e3c109d367c6a812ad9ea3b396f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-the-bible-the-word-of-god/page/5/#post-23985 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:43:37 +1200 Hey Nick & Cubes,Great posts. Thanks for saving me the time to respond to T's inane ramblings.T, none of your “questions” change the definitions of the word “god” found in the Bible, a common household dictionary and the Lord Jesus' own blessed mouth.If you wish to remain in your ignorance, there is not much anyone here can do for you.Were honest…[Read more]

]]> dde70819af14539dcd9b4c044fc11368 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/finding-a-church/page/3/#post-23936 Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:57:14 +1200 Oh this too WoutLaw,You wrote of the Oneness Petecostals, (aka Modalists):”Many in this group also believe that if one doesn't believe that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament, they will die in their sins. They are also hardcore on holiness. One shouldn't watch TV, listen to worldly music, go swimming in a public place, women must only wear…[Read more]

]]> e08eb4ad4d89faa679ae8982c18fe772 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/finding-a-church/page/3/#post-23927 Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:37:05 +1200 Quote (Woutlaw @ April 13 2006,00:24)Oneness PentecostalsBinitariansUnitariansJehovah WitnessesOrthodox JewsReformed JewsConservative JewsMuslimsWoutLaw,Good list! I'd also like to add the following who also claim to be Christians:QuakersMormonsSacred Name Movement People, (i.e Assembly of Yahweh)The WayBiblical UnitariansChristadelphiansI think…[Read more]

]]> 3477dfbb834fa204e9bcb4f2c5518051 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-the-bible-the-word-of-god/page/4/#post-23897 Wed, 09 Aug 2006 14:55:44 +1200 T,I knew who our Lord Jesus Christ is and who his Father is LONG before entering any seminary so you speak without understanding.  You seem intimidated by someone with a theological education, otherwise, why would you even bring this up?Here's another extra Biblical assumption you've made and I quote:”But that still leaves the question: Why does…[Read more]

]]> 287ab53f8ee5b97fb680fd51f1694873 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/13/#post-23811 Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:38:37 +1200 Quote (Peggy @ Dec. 28 2003,04:00)Thank you for taking time to email me with your position. There are many things to say in response but my time is limited. I'm sure you already know that every version except the AJKV was translated from  the Minority Text (Siniaticus (Aleph) and Vaticanus (B) via Alexandria via Rome and, contrary to what it says…[Read more]

]]> e00dc03fb865788352b071fa7cafd784 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-the-bible-the-word-of-god/page/3/#post-23808 Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:59:50 +1200 Hi T,Still waiting for a reply.Last Point:Answer these two questions from scripture please, (without trying to use qualifiiers not found in the Bible)…..1.)  Does the Lord Jesus have a God?2.)   Does God the Father have a god? You haven't answered a straight question yet.  Let's see how you do with these!    Semmy

]]> a53a8f2ce4d579bdfc23326a5a2d0e71 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/calvinism-or-arminianism/page/3/#post-23785 Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:14:56 +1200 E-Maniac,Calvin has been shown up by HIS OWN WORDS and documented acts in history.  The lengthy glorification you posted of him does nothing to negate the facts.  He had no reason or right under Sola Scriptura to order the murder of ANY fellow Christian over a doctrinal dispute.  Even if Servetus was an enemy or apostate, the Bible says to re…[Read more]

]]> d95f531814ac00d3832b93ca87d5cb83 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-the-bible-the-word-of-god/page/2/#post-23784 Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:01:57 +1200 T, I'm going to need some Tylenol pretty quick here.You side-stepped a direct question.  I didn't ask if you believed in denominationalism.I asked if you were or subscribe to the beliefs of Oneness Pentecostals.  So you're a Modalist, fine.No one like double-talk around here so just tell the truth.Listen, you are MISTRANSLATING THE WORD M…[Read more]

]]> 2841c3ce6929541f697c6e80776c7a3e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-the-bible-the-word-of-god/page/2/#post-23779 Tue, 08 Aug 2006 00:25:32 +1200 Hey Nick,I cited Bullingers because he seemed to be the least swayed by church traditions.  The best would be to simply look up an online Greek interlinear and do a word study from the actual translated Greek. Bullinger did that right within the KJV Bible, (that's why its called the Companion Bible). However, it shouldn't be too difficult to look…[Read more]

]]> dfe0747dc10917fb7c43062f14baf948 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/salvation/page/4/#post-23775 Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:56:26 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 08 2006,00:04)Hi , From the watchman fellowship profile on Paul Wierwille.”1) Salvation: Rather than emphasizing salvation through faith in Christ, Wierwille artificially separated “faith” from “believing.” He taught a very mechanical view of faith in Christ – a mere intellectual or mental assent to biblical, historical…[Read more]

]]> f04fd9d1c20939291b3258e540170fc6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-the-confusion/#post-23757 Mon, 07 Aug 2006 19:09:34 +1200 Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 04 2006,21:48)The One said:Quote The scriptures say that God {Jesus' Father}indwelt Jesus(John14:10),therefore Jesus was/is God for that reason.So, if Yahweh (“God”) dwells in us does that make us Yahweh (“God”) also? To Believe “Jesus Is God” Is To Be Deceived!Good point Frank for Yahweh & Nick,The One, We are fellow…[Read more]

]]> 60c42524d6a0141c161afb65e53810f4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-the-bible-the-word-of-god/#post-23756 Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:58:32 +1200 Typrsn,No one's accusing you of authorizing the capitalization of the word logos in the Bible.Good response to a point, however I must ask.  Are you a Oneness Pentecostal?What you are talking about is Modalism which is saying there is no distinctperson, will or begetting of Jesus Christ from His Father.  This is not true.You wrote:”Jesus Christ i…[Read more]

]]> c264a50b3904cce87fc34112f3f847e0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/biblical-unitarianism/page/5/#post-23753 Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:33:01 +1200 Hi Nick,I spent quite some time reading nearly every article at the BU website but you have to dig deeper than that. If you want to know WHERE they got most of their teachings from, you would have to look up Dr. Paul Wierwille and the Way International. A very disturbed cult which regarded this man's teachings as tGospel. The questionly believed…[Read more]

]]> c46e4356769d20bfec04ae8d264b1722 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-the-bible-the-word-of-god/#post-23752 Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:08:57 +1200 Hi Oxy,You have to realize that there are no capitals or lower case in the original Greek manuscripts, (codices).  Therefore capitalization was placed there by the translators.  Here is the proper sequence or order of the Greek words in John 1:1- “In the beginning was the word and the word was toward God and God was the word.”This does not d…[Read more]

]]> f0c9fd18a4d671e4748a0b8baec75b92 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-the-church/page/9/#post-23639 Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:27:01 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 04 2006,22:39)Hi Typsrm,Should Peter or Paul or Philip have refused baptism to those whom God had shown were ready while they checked with the legal or religious authorities??In matters relating to God we serve God and if we are imprisoned or die for that obedience we count it joy.Hi Nick,Please don't project your…[Read more]

]]> 21440c4836b6b20ce434530f9c88b3da http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-the-church/page/9/#post-23638 Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:04:04 +1200 Hi Trprsn,I really appreciate the change in the tenor over your last post.  Much better! You maynot think that you are puffed up, but that is exactly how you came acrosshere.  The law this, God's commandments that, I'm an ordained minister the other.Re-read your last post and cite how many times you included the words “mercy””compassion”, “…[Read more]

]]> ea339e422b0a7f45514d615e40554c0b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-the-church/page/9/#post-23635 Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:31:06 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 04 2006,21:46)Hi Semmy, Who will obey the words of Christ in Matt 28.19 if we are advised not to do so to satisfy man's expectations?”I would stay away from the ordinance stuff like communion and baptisms”Hi Nick,Are laypeople allowed to perform weddings in your country? Trust me, they are NOT in mine and if you don't…[Read more]

]]> d29d3f83041e97a2555598781004f82a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-the-church/page/9/#post-23628 Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:33:39 +1200 What's up Cubes?Actually if you want to voluteer, you can contact the volunteeroffice of the hospital. In a nursing home, you may wish to speakwith the director of recreation.You are NOT a layperson. You are a God-Ordained, annointedminister of the Gospel. You can bring your Bible and read Psalmsto people who are sick. Play Christian music on…[Read more]

]]> 6f292d67e5552958efb742aaee4e12e6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-the-church/page/9/#post-23627 Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:23:14 +1200 My Pleasure Mercy!Listen, don't let legalism paint you into a box. Is God blessing youat the AOG? All right then!!! Jesus told the Samaritan womantoo that she was worshipping what she did not know. Accordingto Trprsn, he should have walked away from her so as not to”sully” himself with someone with heretical doctrines. Hey maybeshe didn't…[Read more]

]]> ced8f8e3458d621bca4239853b75e22b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-the-church/page/9/#post-23626 Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:05:51 +1200 Typrsn,Obviously the nerve was struck with YOU as all you did was try to justify”yourself” in your response.  You wrote:  “The loving God commands believers to expose error.”That's right and that's why I exposed yours!  I'm glad you appreciated that.This was priceless:”The job of an ordained minister as myself is to charge some that they teach no…[Read more]

]]> 7afe48c3b4f54612997464331048a0b9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/calvinism-or-arminianism/page/2/#post-23620 Fri, 04 Aug 2006 19:17:44 +1200 That's Right Nick, Mercy & Kenrch,Now be honest.  Do you REALLY want someone of Calvin's caliber interpreting scripture for you?As Nick said, “By their fruits.”Notice what the issue was.  Just because Servetus didn't agree with Calvin's theology and doctrines, he wanted him murdered.  Calvin was a true trinitarian.  Servetus refused to cow-tow in…[Read more]

]]> c783e233764fdf463961c1b0324792b9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jehovahs-witnesses/page/17/#post-23576 Fri, 04 Aug 2006 02:43:47 +1200 Well David,Maybe you're a neophite but I was with the JW's for 24 years and attended all meetings and assemblies up to 3 years ago until I found out their policy on pedophiles.  Is that long enough for you?  I'm not confused at all about what they teach.  Go ahead and cite all those little mistakes you claim I made.  You're even lying about me mis…[Read more]

]]> f0c14b83e46b23c85d93f4d748a74198 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/matt-1-21-as-evidence-for-the-trinity/page/12/#post-23573 Fri, 04 Aug 2006 01:58:53 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 03 2006,21:03)Hi E,You ask”o tell me Nick, do you fully and completely understand God?” NoBut I do know Him. And I am amazed at the temerity of those who would say they do know God and yet try and put their God in a manmade trinity box and insist that salvation is dependant on others sharing that arrogant view. I can only…[Read more]

]]> 922c5aece315d088c677c5a028e89c0a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/calvinism-or-arminianism/page/2/#post-23522 Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:59:45 +1200 E-Maniac,Once again you prove yourself to be ill-informed as to history.  Open your eyes andsee what sort of hero your Calvin was:On October 27, 1553 John Calvin, the founder of Calvinism, had Michael Servetus, the Spanish physician, burned at the stake just outside of Geneva for his doctrinal heresies!(1) Hence, the originator of the popular…[Read more]

]]> 7ee631e357e219c515c326162c4cbc34 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-the-church/page/8/#post-23519 Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:46:11 +1200 Quote (typrsn @ Aug. 03 2006,19:44)Quote (Mercy @ Aug. 03 2006,19:09)typrsn,I attend the church in order to associate with others who confess Jesus is Lord!  I do not want to be an island in isolation to my faith.  I know that I would not be excepted very well because of my “heresies”. But what am I to do?What is your brotherly c…[Read more]

]]> 56243bb2975a8cdfb17833260e257c84 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-the-church/page/7/#post-23512 Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:09:12 +1200 Quote (Mercy @ Aug. 03 2006,19:09)typrsn,I attend the church in order to associate with others who confess Jesus is Lord!  I do not want to be an island in isolation to my faith.  I know that I would not be excepted very well because of my “heresies”. But what am I to do?What is your brotherly counsel?I'm not sure that trprsn answered your q…[Read more]

]]> a70ed5301ef6618b420ee187557ae315 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/nephilim/page/12/#post-23391 Wed, 02 Aug 2006 21:33:31 +1200 Good Stuff here Nick & Cubes,I've been debating with an author who seems to be trying to put a different spin onwhat the son of Gods means.  I used the example of Christ's geneology in Luke whereAdam is also called the son of God.  Is he some diety?  Uh, no!Cubes, you did a good job here listing references to angels:Gen 6:2 That the sons of God sa…[Read more]

]]> f78068a79b03e24793ed0504495321d8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-the-church/page/6/#post-23335 Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:37:43 +1200 Amen Sultan & Nick,H, what you said about more transcripts being available to KJV translators is not true.Since many of the revisions of the KJV Bible, there have been the discovery of theDead Sea Scrolls and many other reliable codices older than what was used to translate the KJV.They are also not infallible and even REMOVED a portion of…[Read more]

]]> 31b9719a129403847e63555d2c2a81f7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/philippians-2-5-7/page/2/#post-23301 Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:54:52 +1200 Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 07 2006,03:55)He he…I wrote:”Presuppositions will generally determine how this passage is interpreted”….Is 1:18,What is up with this “He, he” in many of your posts?  Very immature for someone claiming to know scripture.  Are you a juvenille using your parent's computer without their consent? If so, it is way past your b…[Read more]

]]> 412362e9ec149442727fdd2a67dc0b75 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/matt-1-21-as-evidence-for-the-trinity/page/6/#post-22868 Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:44:51 +1200 E-Maniac,“HASTINGS Dictionary of the Bible by Schribners, on page 1015 under the topic: “THE TRINITY–The Christian doctrine of God as existing in three Persons & one Substance is NOT DEMONSTRABLE BY LOGIC OR BY SCRIPTURAL PROOFS…” According to Mr. Hastings, one would have to use ILLOGICAL AND UNSCRIPTURAL data in order to prove a trinity. Why…[Read more]

]]> 61313c52366a490c1ca3ccbfe63322d5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/matt-1-21-as-evidence-for-the-trinity/page/6/#post-22864 Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:39:06 +1200 E-maniac wrote,(2 Tim 3:7 NASB) always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Wow, how profound! And this is supposed to be a complete rebuttal to my last post to you?You've really struck an iceberg now!Try again, and this time try responding to the ISSUES of point with scriptures.Still waiting on your comments on the…[Read more]

]]> 16c9415a5b4ae1989c4ec891f2c3fc91 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/matt-1-21-as-evidence-for-the-trinity/page/6/#post-22860 Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:32:56 +1200 ALso E-Maniac,Now you've got to stoop to posting someone else's long winded nonsense as a response? Son of God means just what it says and is NOT exclusive to our Lord Jesus. Read Luke 3:38 which lists ADAM as the Son of God. Christ is also referred to as the Last Adam. You trinitarians have reversed the meaning and added “God the Son” to…[Read more]

]]> 67b9ca65956236fc3d261bf6bc8907b7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/matt-1-21-as-evidence-for-the-trinity/page/6/#post-22854 Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:17:09 +1200 Uh oh E-Maniac,Sure sign of a white flag is when you start in with “it is not necessary to fully comprehendGod…”  You can't win this debate scripturally so you drop down to this?  So predictable.The pastor of education said the exact same thing when he saw the trinity doesn't lineup with scripture.  Hastings noted this as well: “HASTINGS Di…[Read more]

]]> 98c759621e230ef450cdddc224873148 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/matt-1-21-as-evidence-for-the-trinity/page/5/#post-22834 Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:04:10 +1200 Is 1:18 & E-Maniac,I can only recommend that you spend some time in a real library to see what those whocreated the trinity doctrine, aka the Roman Catholic Church, did in the history of men.There is not enough time nor is it our job to educate you on the origins of these falsebeliefs and the teachers who promulgated them.They lie, deceive and…[Read more]

]]> 8b34456fef8d7f09e30453fe85133cd6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/matt-1-21-as-evidence-for-the-trinity/page/5/#post-22833 Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:16:01 +1200 Is 1:18,Don't worry, my feelings aren't hurt.  You just proved my point in yourequally long winded reply.  So many words to say basically, nothing.You provided very little scripture if any to refute the veracity my post.  In fact, whatyou did was simply try to rationalize and debate without the Bible to back you up.  Why amI not surprised?  Sa…[Read more]

]]> b55a0536b6fd75a600b359e7b32efa8d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/matt-1-21-as-evidence-for-the-trinity/page/5/#post-22832 Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:59:45 +1200 E-Maniac & Is 1:18,Nick said & quoted E here:Hi E,”very well… does Unitarian better suite you?”No we do not need human labels. Those who hide behind them betray their real master. VERY TRUE!!!Labeling, such as calling us “unitarian”, is the oldest ploy in the book.This is a way of trying to limit someone.  However Quakers, the Amish, Sacred…[Read more]

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