https://heavennet.net/members/ronday888/activity/ Activity feed for ronday888. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 d435242e338b84c83e1fa956dab93001 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/25-short-biblical-arguments-for-the-binding-author/page/4/#post-188157 Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:57:37 +1200 Quote (CatholicApologist @ Feb. 18 2010,14:15)Who passed on the idea that God is not a Trinity?  Again, it is the Bible itself that declares the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as one person from beginning to end, and never once does the bible declare the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to be more than one person. By default, then, it is the…[Read more]

]]> be109cad229322687ddfbe4bb9ad68f7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/25-short-biblical-arguments-for-the-binding-author/page/4/#post-188155 Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:47:34 +1200 Quote (CatholicApologist @ Feb. 18 2010,14:15)Who passed on the the teaching of soul annihilation?  Who passed on the idea the Jesus was merely an angel?  Who passed on the idea that God is not a Trinity?  Who passed on being baptized into the “spirit of the organization”?Who passed on the idea the the Holy Spirit is merely a “force”?Who passed on…[Read more]

]]> 43aac427ffe8a903f40da0492ae48e9a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/25-short-biblical-arguments-for-the-binding-author/page/4/#post-188149 Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:36:15 +1200 Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 20 2010,03:20)Quote (CatholicApologist @ Feb. 19 2010,07:50)Who were the men who knew the apostles?Polycarp of SmyrnaIgnatius of AntiochClement of RomeBut you are opposed to the teachings of these holy men.As far as I know, we do not have any manuscripts of these people before the fourth century; while it is possible that…[Read more]

]]> 11d28d61f68a6885c4d3290540982d2e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/25-short-biblical-arguments-for-the-binding-author/page/4/#post-188147 Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:26:45 +1200 Quote (CatholicApologist @ Feb. 20 2010,14:20)So let me get this straight.  YOU believe that both the Church and the message of the gospel was an UTTER FAILURE.  YOU believe that right out of the gate, the gospel was corrupted and lost.  YOU believe that in fact, the gates of hell prevailed against the Church.YOU believe that of all of the wr…[Read more]

]]> 8141b8f62d5338ce386be29ad344de9d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/25-short-biblical-arguments-for-the-binding-author/page/4/#post-188145 Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:13:37 +1200 Quote (CatholicApologist @ Feb. 20 2010,14:20)Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 19 2010,19:20)So let me get this straight.  YOU believe that both the Church and the message of the gospel was an UTTER FAILURE.If I may step in here to comment on this.Neither the church or gospel message of the apostles are a failure. This does not mean that there was no…[Read more]

]]> a246a5d7bf15a166d8b786f6ce2e7efb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/eternal-torment/page/29/#post-92345 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:20:30 +1200 What Does the Bible Really Say About Hell? (1) The Bible hell (sheol/hades) is the realm of death; it is described as a condition in which there is no work, no device, no knowledge, nor wisdom. — Ecclesiastes 9:10 (many translations render “sheol” as “the grave” here). (2) The only Old Testament word translated hell is sheol, to which the New…[Read more]

]]> b36565ded4a2f3623cf6e2b6121e4d25 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/eternal-torment/page/29/#post-92344 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:08:21 +1200 Revelation 21:8 The true character of the goat class is portrayed. “The fearful and unbelieving , the abominable, murderers , fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters , and all liars” — “whosoever love and makes a lie” “will have their part in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone , which is the second death.” Such company would be repulsive to…[Read more]

]]> 9a2b56d3e2bdf870b0e2d1af2e38e0be http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/eternal-torment/page/29/#post-92343 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:06:10 +1200 The Lake of Fire The “lake of fire” is several times mentioned in the book of Revelation, which all Christians admit to be a book of symbols. However, they generally think and speak of this particular symbol as a literal statement giving strong support to the eternal torment doctrine, notwithstanding the fact that the symbol is clearly defined…[Read more]

]]> 35c51eff72e18ccbd95860b8a2cbecd8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/eternal-torment/page/29/#post-92342 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:03:18 +1200 I have been reading comments to this thread, but have not been posting since I have already spread myself out over too many forums, and have found that I haven't the time to sufficiently address all the responses being made. I will, however, post a series of excerpts from studies I have written related to this topic that I believe might be…[Read more]

]]> d605eb63ab04f0f8186b3339343bd596 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/eternal-torment/page/21/#post-89810 Tue, 27 May 2008 14:45:36 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2008,23:17)Hi GB,So are the angel and Jesus and others symbolic?Jesus is usually represented in the book of Revelation as the lamb. The “lamb” is not a literal lamb; it is symbolic of the overcoming Jesus.The Revelation is from the only true God, Yahweh, to Jesus, who in turn gives it to the angel, who in turn gives it…[Read more]

]]> 7801042ec1be1f06414a28dffbabd840 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/69/#post-108211 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:17:08 +1200 Quote (proverbs31.11 @ April 23 2008,00:44)new math for old problem of Trinity proof1x1x1=1Of course 1 of 1 of 1 is alway that “1” that you begin with. So, also,…[Read more]

]]> 721a9cfbef6cfd3e12a343aea3e79b75 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/eternal-torment/page/17/#post-88001 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:05:55 +1200 Quote (ronday888 @ April 22 2008,10:02)I hit the wrong button. Sorry for the extra posts.Ronald

]]> fe63288afba2901f8ee94a94033544f3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/eternal-torment/page/17/#post-88000 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:02:57 +1200 Quote (Cubes @ July 20 2006,20:45)Quote (t8 @ July 20 2006,06:04)The outcome for the wicked is 'destruction'. They will 'perish'.But we perhaps need to define those 2 words to understand their punishment.Hi t8:What's getting to me is this:  if the inhabitants of Sodom were destroyed by fire and brimstone, and that's awful enough, and Jesus says…[Read more]

]]> c15de0ef90ca714efb5ee5810f41ce89 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/67/#post-108184 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:55:06 +1200 Moses spoke:Deuteronomy 18:15Yahweh your God will raise up to you a prophet from the midst of you, of your brothers, like me; to him you shall listen; Deuteronomy 18:17Yahweh said to me, They have well said that which they have spoken.Deuteronomy 18:18I will raise them up a prophet from among their brothers, like you; and I will put my words in…[Read more]

]]> beca8ba474644bfc926a3954dc20b433 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/60/#post-108083 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:50:25 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2008,17:12)Hi RD, You say”Likewise, the “panta” — all — that was created through the Logos, referred to in John 1:3,4, is speaking, not of everything in the universe, but the world that was made by means of the Logos, the same world that did not recognize him. — John 1:10″ Jn1 9That was the true Light, which…[Read more]

]]> 012bd276e9b7659f2a5d84fafc1a1d13 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/59/#post-108066 Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:00:11 +1300 Quote (ronday888 @ Mar. 31 2008,16:51)What About Isaiah 48:13? He laid the foundations of the earth, That it should not be moved forever. — Psalm 104:5, World English Bible translation. Yes, my hand has laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand has spread out the heavens: when I call to them, they stand up together. — Isaiah 48:13,…[Read more]

]]> e16dbae4b24df65def218f0efe1b8012 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/59/#post-108064 Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:51:58 +1300 Quote (Is 1:18 @ Mar. 31 2008,03:49)OK, really must go to bed now….:)Hebrews 1:10 tells us that it was in fact Yeshua's hands that laid the foundations of the Earth.****I am going to be posting what I have written before for the Restoration Light website. Since the study is rather long, I will split it up into several…[Read more]

]]> b0ef06a236dd3b3029bb5603a340c818 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/53/#post-107980 Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:31:24 +1300 Quote (Is 1:18 @ Mar. 23 2008,03:38)John 19:7The Jews answered him, “We have a law, and by that law He ought to die because He made Himself out to be the Son of God.“CF.John 5:18For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making…[Read more]

]]> 8f12289abc2f3b0b766c82b136d24c56 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/5/#post-82180 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:16:34 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2008,23:03)Hi RD, So eating ordinary food sustains life just as well as food from the tree of life?I should have said that the fruit of the trees of life sustain life forever; the fruit of the trees outside of the garden do not do this.Christian love,Ronald

]]> 41ba6b728da5c0cb98551c63921be85c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/4/#post-81147 Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:47:35 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2008,16:06)Hi RD, You say”Adam was not dying until he sinned. He was indeed alive. Thus, he was in the condition of living forever until he lost that life through sin.”But scripture saysGen 3″22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and…[Read more]

]]> 54bca466fad2652e918634cedecb94a7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/4/#post-81144 Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:21:23 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2008,15:47)Hi RD,Lk1 30And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. 31And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.Christ was conceived in Mary so she was his true mother and not a surrogate one.He inherited our sinful estate…[Read more]

]]> 056e2ac40e99d9fa9fdfded81fb1180d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/4/#post-81137 Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:15:43 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2008,14:54)Hi RD,John 5:26For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;So the son was already alive, then was GIVEN to have life in himself.While there is nothing in John 5:26 that indicates that Jesus was alive before he was given the life being spoken of, I do agree that…[Read more]

]]> 263bbe3b11cbe8da409dd0f97f50e37b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/4/#post-81135 Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:05:04 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2008,14:45)Hi RD,Jn 1247And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. You put a lot of…[Read more]

]]> 9cecb2b460f5c42d2f0d339d5ccd768a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/4/#post-81119 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:56:07 +1300 Quote (ronday888 @ Feb. 11 2008,14:24)The expression “living faith” does actually appear in the scriptures.I left the word “not” out again. The above should read:The expression “living faith” does not actually appear in the scriptures.

]]> 483992f0238466243ef0fc4e62e13d13 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/4/#post-81098 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:54:59 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2008,14:54)Hi RD,John 5:26For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;So the son was already alive, then was GIVEN to have life in himself.*******

]]> 165bc98546cdc4bb34045b26beeccd18 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/4/#post-81097 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:53:25 +1300 Quote (ronday888 @ Feb. 11 2008,15:49)If he didn't, then Jesus' sacrifice of life could repurchase what was lost in Adam.Ooops! This should have read: “If he didn't, then Jesus' sacrifice of life could not repurchase what was lost in Adam.”

]]> ec2ae835e85cc32c32a5e68dcc043f2d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/3/#post-81096 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:49:59 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2008,14:40)Hi RD, Adam was given life, but not eternal life. He did not eat of the tree of life.Jn 314 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.16 For God so loved the world, that he gave…[Read more]

]]> a2f33969c4d9ff022442484fa8e39bea http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/3/#post-81085 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:41:03 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 07 2008,21:01)Hi RD,So the order from Rev 20isThe 1000 yr reign free from Satan's influence 7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, The rebellion 8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to…[Read more]

]]> e37a4cab9a3012a05372ccd6496a2722 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/3/#post-81083 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:37:39 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 06 2008,19:47)The tribunal of Christ is one of reward for his followers and different from the sheep and goat judgement on the heathen nations.With this I agree. The followers of Jesus are raised first, and receive their rewards at various levels, so that they may rule with Jesus and judge the world of mankind with Jesus.…[Read more]

]]> f4d72f0ec9cf59b3acd7d70e545617e3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/3/#post-81082 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:36:24 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 06 2008,19:47)God is fair so men are judged through a man who has walked among them and knows first hand the problems we face.Judgment begins with the house of God; the judgment of the world does not take place until the “last day”, when Satan is abyssed that he might not decieve the heathen. (2 Thessalonians 1:4,5; 1…[Read more]

]]> ee837d115317dafc6b155dd274c8aae9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/3/#post-81081 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:33:31 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 06 2008,19:47)Perfection is in the eyes of God and not our own. Those who return some value on the investment God made in them are given some reward but it is according to grace sought and given, not self effort.I am not sure what is being meant by the above, but this sounds as though it is saying that the rewards given…[Read more]

]]> fd9d497979c15b6aeef5ef8c5ebb1b5f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/3/#post-81079 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:31:03 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 06 2008,19:47)Christ was not different to us,except in the later given full anointing of God.Christ was indeed different from us in that he was not made a sinner due to Adam's sin. He was “holy, guiltless, undefiled, separated from sinners.” (Hebrews 7:26) His body was prepared by God, separate from the condemnation in…[Read more]

]]> 14a25609bd05f8df671b28ef3e92191d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/3/#post-81077 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:27:08 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 06 2008,19:47)Hi RD, Of course the life that Christ had in himself was that of the Spirit of the Father in him and he died that we may share that life. It was not his own life.I am not sure what the import of the above is, so I will respond in somewhat general terms.God, of course, being the source of all life, has life…[Read more]

]]> 4498db2200feb4cc181645e2335701e8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/3/#post-81076 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:24:47 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 06 2008,18:54)Hi ronday, Living faith is obedient faith?Those who have been reborn of water and the Spirit?*************The expression “living faith” does actually appear in the scriptures. James tells us, however, of a faith that is dead. (James 2:20,26) My usage of the expression “living faith” is in regard to faith…[Read more]

]]> 88f7f019efd1f18f63aa874e75911943 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/2/#post-80816 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:43:56 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 01 2008,13:34)Hi RD,. The two resurrections are shown in Jn 5 which you quote,24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.John 5:24 – Most assuredly I tell you, he who hears my…[Read more]

]]> 7b00447efd864e16a6c59df7d630fbbd http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/2/#post-80525 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:02:19 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 01 2008,13:21)Hi RD, The full expression of the Kingdom of Christ on earth begins with the first resurrection. Some natural men will survive the great tribulation so there will be nations to be ruled. They will respond to the ministry of Christ for 1000 years because the dragon will be enchained. The spiritually dead will…[Read more]

]]> 517bd844c4e361197cafc9522b3f4714 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/2/#post-80510 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:15:57 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 01 2008,13:09)Hi RD, The sons of the resurrection are to be judges kings and priests, but teachers? It is not written that further education and more opportunities for salvation will be offered to those raised later.The word judge includes -1- instruction (Psalm 19:7-11; 25:8,9: 106:3; 119:108; Isaiah 33:5; 56:1;…[Read more]

]]> 5d3cf64a031d0fb7ce56596285c167b4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/2/#post-80503 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:57:24 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 01 2008,02:55)Hi David, You say”I believe that during judgement day (the thousand years) these ones will be given the chance to show their true colors” Well of course the first resurrection is only of the sons of God and into the 1000yr reign.The general resurrection of the nations is after that time.Were you thinking all…[Read more]

]]> 01d9e6723f48fbd6fd58221474b0ee35 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/2/#post-80497 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:17:41 +1300 Quote (david @ Feb. 01 2008,01:12)The bible speaks of a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.  Why would God resurrect the unrighteous  just to condemn them to death.  It appears such a resurrection is for ones who didn't have the opportunity to hear the good news and decide which side they were on.David, I agree that the re…[Read more]

]]> 69230bd3a05944e95c110e6c00a502a5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/page/2/#post-80496 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:59:23 +1300 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 01 2008,00:15)The Father nor Yehsua had to pay satan anything back.For satan was a liar and a thief from the beginning.Sometimes many say things in such a way that what is said can be easily misinterpretated by others. I know when I first read Nick's statement it sounded like he was saying that sacrifice was paid to…[Read more]

]]> 92da721a6a5722cf03ee07275bb97d9e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/#post-80493 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:29:56 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2008,22:18)Hi, The word RANSOM appears twice in the NTMatt 2028just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.” 1Tim25For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given…[Read more]

]]> e6ad60da22dda69951b96fd6e746281c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/#post-80489 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:09:52 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2008,16:46)Where is it written the raised will be educated and given a fresh opportunity?Yahweh comes to judge the world of mankind by means of the one (Jesus) whom he has appointed. has appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness by the man whom he has ordained; whereof he has given assurance to…[Read more]

]]> 8b53cf89399f4849ee90d13f07dc207e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/#post-80486 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:39:45 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2008,16:46)Where is it written the raised will be educated and given a fresh opportunity?Yahweh comes to judge the world of mankind by means of the one whom he has appointed. has appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness by the man whom he has ordained; whereof he has given assurance to all…[Read more]

]]> 4317057a1538b48185454c4643fe2738 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ransom-sacrifice/#post-80485 Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:47:39 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 31 2008,16:46)Hi RD, You say”Due to the ransom sacrifice of Jesus, those who are to be blessed include the dead as well as the living — the dead will be awakened from their “sleep” in death (Psalm 6:5; 146:4; Daniel 12:2; John 5:28,29 NASV; 11:11-14; 1 Thessalonians 4:14; 2 Peter 3:4) and will then be given an exact…[Read more]

]]> cb862fdd542867a6fc6d6bbe122f9835 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-michael/#post-80370 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:26:46 +1300 Quote (Is 1:18 @ Nov. 13 2005,18:24)Hi jbl,I think there is actually NO Biblical evidence to support it. Here is one of many refutations of the JW premise that Jesus and the archangel Michael are one and the same:Colossians 1:16For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or…[Read more]

]]> 388a6305085aca2ca0e2b4e71bd52767 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/17/#post-107441 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:48:09 +1300 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 15 2008,01:38), if the article o, or any of its cases, precedes the first of the said nouns or participles, and is not repeated before the second noun or participle, the latter always relates to the same person that is expressed or described by the first noun or participle: i.e. it denotes a farther description of…[Read more]

]]> bcd5b557fa1e1042b81180e27e10dc69 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/17/#post-107433 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:12:19 +1300 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 14 2008,12:38)None of the things you mention deal with…1 Tim 3:161 Timothy 3:16 is one of those scriptures that is often misrepresented by trinitarians as speaking of the “mystery of the godhead” (http://tinyurl.com/yotz92) or the “mystery of the trinity”. Many seem to read the expression “mystery of godliness” as…[Read more]

]]> 9c501e0376f17e26fd77f0370174287b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/17/#post-107432 Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:20:31 +1300 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2008,14:12)Of course “all things” does not mean God himself, which is clarified in John 1:1 – 3.At least this admits that “all things” does not mean absolutely everything in the universe.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2008,14:12)In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.…[Read more]

]]> c7bdbfb07e62e75b8b812d7e0e06b1c8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/17/#post-107431 Sat, 26 Jan 2008 04:10:28 +1300 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2008,14:07)Yes that is exactly my point. You take “your literal rendering” as you gave on page 1004 and place it above the W&H Interlinear. I am not sure what this is supposed to mean, and I feel like I am debating on something totally irrelevant to the issue.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2008,14:07)True it…[Read more]

]]> d4cc43c0b3eb9d7251287996404f036f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/14/#post-107394 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:28:43 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 24 2008,01:04)Hi RD, Sin comes from the earthy body.Scripture? I am not sure what point is trying to be made.Of course, if one is minding the flesh, instead of the spirit (Romans 8:6), as Adam did in listening to the voice of his wife, instead of God, then one is being led into sin. I would not, however, say, in the case…[Read more]

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