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Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 2 months ago
Gal 4:4,5 but when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
This verse makes me think of Jesus being held in reserve until the time appointed by God to call the whole world to himself which is much different…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 2 months ago
If Jesus was the Logos ever by God’s side through eternity,then was he the one who gave the Mosaic law?” for the law came by Moses,but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ”,Jesus in St John says to the Jews “is it not written in your law”. Should he not say my law or at least our law? The way St John and Paul contrast the law and Jesus I have a ha…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 2 months ago
Also not long after that at age 17,I read a book called “Jesus in Exodus” written by a former Jew who had converted to Christianity in which he explained how it was really Jesus on Mt Sinai who had given the law and of course all the types and shadows of Christ etc. It made sense but it didn’t.
Personally I think there is a good chance that Jesus…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 2 months ago
God is not a man but he became one to redeem us …etc.
But scripture says that God sent his son into the world. He sent his son to save us so we could become sons.
He didn’t become one of us so we could become God.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Listen to this Muslim in the forum Other Faiths 9 years, 2 months ago
Personally, I think the Koran mimicked and lifted much from the Bible so as to sound and look like the scriptures. Also, it is easier to plagiarize than come up with original content. but copying or mimicking is an important way to deceive. We are told that Satan poses as an angel of light for example.
And it is in this copying that certain…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 9 years, 2 months ago
You seem to be confused. Jesus is the firstborn of many brethren from death.
Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.
The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For in Him…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 2 months ago
LU, ‘The Father begat Jesus who always existed’!!!
I know. Ridiculous for a number of reasons.
- It is an oxymoron;
It is a denial of the very definition of ‘begat’;
It is a denial of sonship and fatherhood;
No such concept or language exists in scripture. It is more the realm of Greek philosophy;
It is like saying: “the cold hot” or “th…Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 2 months ago
Your son is not you. Your brother’s son is not your brother. Nor is God’s son, God.
Son of God is all you need to say to understand that Jesus is not God. It really is as simple as it comes across. It was never meant to be complicated. Was never meant to be Greek philosophy. Just simplicity in Christ. The term ‘son of God’ means what it says. It…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 2 months ago
Your son is not you. Your brother’s son is not your brother, and nor is God’s son, God.
Son of God is all you need to say to understand that Jesus is not God. It really is as simple as it comes across. It was never meant to be complicated. Was never meant to be Greek philosophy. Just simplicity in Christ. The term ‘son of God’ means what it says.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 2 months ago
Your son is not you. Your brother’s son is not your brother, and nor is God’s son, God.
Son of God is all you need to say to understand that Jesus is not God. It really is as simple as it comes across. It was never meant to be complicated. Was never meant to be Greek philosophy. Just simplicity in Christ.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The False "Church System" Deception in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 2 months ago
Yes. Obviously if scripture is translated correctly and we believe that scripture is inspired, then we accept it. The question is then not one of doubt, but one of what kind of teaching was he giving. Further, parables are a form of teaching. How could they not be. In fact I think parables are great. They may not be direct, but people find stories…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The False "Church System" Deception in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 2 months ago
Yes. Obviously if scripture is translated correctly and we believe that scripture is inspired, then we accept it. The question is then not one of doubt, but one of what kind of teaching was he giving. Further, parables are a form of teaching. How could they not be. In fact I think parables are great. They may not be direct, but people find stories…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Sweden has died. Do not allow your country to be next in the forum View Points 9 years, 3 months ago
Trump and The Truth about Sweden
Proclaimer replied to the topic Sweden has died. Do not allow your country to be next in the forum View Points 9 years, 3 months ago
No comprendo.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Sweden has died. Do not allow your country to be next in the forum View Points 9 years, 3 months ago
Trump and The Truth about Sweden
Proclaimer replied to the topic Sweden has died. Do not allow your country to be next in the forum View Points 9 years, 3 months ago
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 3 months ago
Also Paul said that in Jesus dwells the full deity. He did not say “half deity” or “part deity” or “sub-deity”… what does that mean? He clearly says that the Spirit that lives in the human body of Jesus was fully God. And Paul knows that this God is not the Father. So Paul was saying that Jesus, God the Son, is fully deity, and dwells in tha…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 3 months ago
Also Paul said that in Jesus dwells the full deity. He did not say “half deity” or “part deity” or “sub-deity”… what does that mean? He clearly says that the Spirit that lives in the human body of Jesus was fully God. And Paul knows that this God is not the Father. So Paul was saying that Jesus, God the Son, is fully deity, and dwells in tha…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 3 months ago
We also read that the Scripture clearly says that YHWH visited Abraham in human form, and you said that that is not God, practically saying that YHWH is not God, or that the Scripture (OT) is wrong, or a lesser revelation than the NT.
You do not understand. YHWH sends messengers. It is YHWH, but through his messenger. God is invisible and an…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 3 months ago
We also read that the Scripture clearly says that YHWH visited Abraham in human form, and you said that that is not God, practically saying that YHWH is not God, or that the Scripture (OT) is wrong, or a lesser revelation than the NT.
You do not understand. YHWH sends messengers. It is YHWH, but through his messenger. God is invisible and an…[Read more]
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