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Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
You left the door open to LU where you say, ‘The son is from God’. LU can take that to mean ‘born from God and is therefore himself god’ as she wrongfully ideologieses.
I find that you need to write an essay to close all doors. I have learned over the years to open doors when they need to be opened and close them when when they need to be closed.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
You left the door open to LU where you say, ‘The son is from God’. LU can take that to mean ‘born from God and is therefore himself god’ as she wrongfully ideologieses.
I find that you need to write an essay to close all doors. I have learned over the years to open doors when they need to be opened and close them when when they need to be closed.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
As You see, her ideology is a confused one. To her, the deity she CLAIMS to believe in is both a PERSON and an a NON-PERSON THING.
Agreed. I have been saying for years that most who believe in the Trinity or Binity, and Quinity (yes someone actually preached five as God) confuse identity with nature.
While God has divine nature and we can share…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
As You see, her ideology is a confused one. To her, the deity she CLAIMS to believe in is both a PERSON and an a NON-PERSON THING.
Agreed. I have been saying for years that most who believe in the Trinity or Binity, and Quinity (yes someone actually preached five as God) confuse identity with nature.
While God has divine nature and we can share…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
As You see, her ideology is a confused one. To her, the deity she CLAIMS to believe in is both a PERSON and an a NON-PERSON THING.
Agreed. I have been saying for years that most who believe in the Trinity or Binity, and Quinity (yes someone actually preached five as God) confuse identity with nature.
While God has divine nature and we can share…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
As You see, her ideology is a confused one. To her, the deity she CLAIMS to believe in is both a PERSON and an a NON-PERSON THING.
Agreed. I have been saying for years that most who believe in the Trinity or Binity, and Quinity (yes someone actually preached five as God) confuse identity with nature.
While God has divine nature and we can share…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
LU, t8, ‘There is ONE GOD, the Father…’
Nothing more.
Correct. People change this by adding their own doctrines which are conjured up by pride in their own understanding. Jesus taught that we have to be like children to enter the kingdom. Adults have a problem with this. They just can’t leave alone the fact that there is one God. It is too simpl…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
LU, t8, ‘There is ONE GOD, the Father…’
Nothing more.
Correct. People change this by adding their own doctrines which are conjured up by pride in their own understanding. Jesus taught that we have to be like children to enter the kingdom. Adults have a problem with this. They just can’t leave alone the fact that there is one God. It is too simpl…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
LU, t8, ‘There is ONE GOD, the Father…’
Nothing more.
Correct. People change this by adding their own doctrines which are conjured up by pride in their own understanding. Jesus taught that we have to be like children to enter the kingdom. Adults have a problem with this. They just can’t leave alone the fact that there is one God. It is too simpl…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Signs Before the End of the Age in the forum Visions & Testimonies 9 years, 1 month ago
Hi T8,
Can you please give more details as to what you were shown?
Like what did the cars looked like. Also, what specifically was
significant about the part of the future that you were shown.
“Communicate” “with spirit” specifics are a interest of mine.Sorry, I just saw your question. I did mention these details in the opening post. H…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Signs Before the End of the Age in the forum Visions & Testimonies 9 years, 1 month ago
Hi T8,
Can you please give more details as to what you were shown?
Like what did the cars looked like. Also, what specifically was
significant about the part of the future that you were shown.
“Communicate” “with spirit” specifics are a interest of mine.Sorry, I just saw your question. I did mention these details in the opening post. H…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Signs Before the End of the Age in the forum Visions & Testimonies 9 years, 1 month ago
Yes, Christians are nearly extinct in the Middle East, where they once were widespread. Islam has had a huge impact in that part of the world. The culling of their numbers was not peaceful, but could be described as tribulation. The Middle East is predominantly Muslim. One of the tenets of their faith is God has no son. What does scripture call…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Signs Before the End of the Age in the forum Visions & Testimonies 9 years, 1 month ago
Yes, Christians are nearly extinct in the Middle East, where they once were widespread. Islam has had a huge impact in that part of the world. The culling of their numbers was not peaceful, but could be described as tribulation. The Middle East is predominantly Muslim. One of the tenets of their faith is God has no son. What does scripture call…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Signs Before the End of the Age in the forum Visions & Testimonies 9 years, 1 month ago
Yes Christians are nearly extinct in the Middle East, where they once were widespread. Islam has had a huge impact in that part of the world.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 9 years, 1 month ago
Jesus is not just a word of God or a bunch of attributes of God that became alive and called a son. Jesus is the Word ‘of life’ and that life was eternally with the Father.
The Word that came from God would naturally have the attributes of God himself. For where else does the Word with God come from? The early fathers worded it as the first wor…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 9 years, 1 month ago
Jesus is not just a word of God or a bunch of attributes of God that became alive and called a son. Jesus is the Word ‘of life’ and that life was eternally with the Father.
The Word that came from God would naturally have the attributes of God himself. For where else does the Word with God come from? The early fathers worded it as the first wor…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 9 years, 1 month ago
1 John 1 tells us that even from the beginning, Jesus was the eternal life with God.
From the first fire another was produced. And that second fire will never go out. That is pretty much how the early fathers put it. They did not say that the second fire burned for all eternity, but that it came from the first with no mention of the second being temporary.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 9 years, 1 month ago
There was never a time when the Son was not.
Scripture and verse please.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 9 years, 1 month ago
I believe that the Son of God was always a living entity even before He was begotten. You seem to say that the Son of God became a living entity AFTER he was begotten.
The Word was God or an attribute of God, then it was WITH God. Then God created all things through him.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 9 years, 1 month ago
You seem to believe that attributes, when begotten of God become living entites who are referred to as sons of God.
When God creates and begats, from what and where do these living creatures come from. They come from him and he is living and has attributes. Of course he shares his nature and he shares his attributes. That is obvious. And he gives…[Read more]
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