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Proclaimer started the topic Jesus vs Muhammad in the forum Other Faiths 9 years, 1 month ago
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Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
They then proclaim that it if they are bad it is because of these fallen angels. Good Grief!!
Adam blamed Eve and she blamed the serpent. Good grief there too right?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
Doesn’t the message of fallen angels tell us that you can be an immortal being in the awesome presence of God, but then turn and sin? Being immortal and able to be in the presence of God wasn’t good enough? What a rather wicked idea, what does that say about our Eternal Father? He cannot keep his perfected angels righteous? Where then is our hop…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
Doesn’t the message of fallen angels tell us that you can be an immortal being in the awesome presence of God, but then turn and sin? Being immortal and able to be in the presence of God wasn’t good enough? What a rather wicked idea, what does that say about our Eternal Father? He cannot keep his perfected angels righteous? Where then is our hop…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
Immortality is achieved through perfection is it not? If you are not made perfect and you find yourself in the presence of the Almighty God, doesn’t it say you would burn up, as only the righteous can be in His presence? Are we to believe that God’s righteous standards don’t apply to His angels? Are angels immortal? If they in fact are, would…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
Haven’t got time to read all your posts now, but will reply to the last one.
You fear that if they are fallen angels, then all is lost. But just about every ancient writing out there says they were. The Book of Enoch, The Book of Giants, The Book of Jared, etc. Of course there is always the possibilities that they are wrong. These extra-biblical…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
Haven’t got time to read all your posts now, but will reply to the last one.
You fear that if they are fallen angels, then all is lost. But just about every ancient writing out there says they were. The Book of Enoch, The Book of Giants, The Book of Jared, etc. Of course there is always the possibilities that they are wrong. These extra-biblical…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Unity of God in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
I might was well be straight up and say: “I haven’t watched the video because I think this will be more philosophical drivel rather than the revealed truth of scripture”.
Twenty or so years ago, I set out to prove once and for all if the Trinity was a true doctrine or not. As a young believer, this is what I was taught, so I accepted it and I…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Unity of God in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
I might was well be straight up and say: “I haven’t watched the video because I think this will be more philosophical drivel rather than the revealed truth of scripture”.
Twenty or so years ago, I set out to prove once and for all if the Trinity was a true doctrine or not. As a young believer, this is what I was taught, so I accepted it and I…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Unity of God in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
I might was well be straight up and say: “I haven’t watched the video because I think this will be more philosophical drivel rather than the revealed truth of scripture”.
Twenty or so years ago, I set out to prove once and for all if the Trinity was a true doctrine or not. As a young believer, this is what I was taught, so I accepted it and I…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Unity of God in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
I might was well be straight up and say: “I haven’t watched the video because I think this will be more philosophical drivel rather than the revealed truth of scripture”.
Twenty or so years ago, I set out to prove once and for all if the Trinity was a true doctrine or not. As a young believer, this is what I was taught, so I accepted it and I…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
It’s sad alright. Jesus taught to give to the poor and in most cases these churches are richer than the people they are getting the money from. The exact opposite of what Jesus taught. I have seen many churches compelling people to dig deep and give to them. Shame on them. Jesus Church is not reliant on money, but many of these churches would…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Signs Before the End of the Age in the forum Visions & Testimonies 9 years, 1 month ago
“More Christians die and suffer for their faith than any other religious group in the world.”
“The elite, including liberal media, not only ignore this fact but most often are the ones who treat Christians with mocking, stereotyping and disdain. It’s a rare sight to ever see Hollywood portray a Christian in a positive manner, much less talk a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Signs Before the End of the Age in the forum Visions & Testimonies 9 years, 1 month ago
“More Christians die and suffer for their faith than any other religious group in the world.”
“The elite, including liberal media, not only ignore this fact but most often are the ones who treat Christians with mocking, stereotyping and disdain. It’s a rare sight to ever see Hollywood portray a Christian in a positive manner, much less talk a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Signs Before the End of the Age in the forum Visions & Testimonies 9 years, 1 month ago
More Christians die and suffer for their faith than any other religious group in the world.
The elite, including liberal media, not only ignore this fact but most often are the ones who treat Christians with mocking, stereotyping and disdain. It’s a rare sight to ever see Hollywood portray a Christian in a positive manner, much less talk about t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Signs Before the End of the Age in the forum Visions & Testimonies 9 years, 1 month ago
Piers Morgan Asks Why U.S. Media Won’t Cover Christian Genocide By Radical Muslims
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 9 years, 1 month ago
@hoghead1
Your argument was that the Son is not eternal. I was simply pointing out to you that your view here would invalidate the Father as well from being eternal. It doesn’t take rocket science to see that.
God of course has always existed. But the son has always existed does fly in the face of these words:
Hebrews 5:5
In the same way, C…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
Actually I think my original wording was correct, just not clear. I said:
I do not view the Holy Spirit as a dove in form (like you I assume).
But if I said the following instead, then it would have meant we had differing opinions.
I do not view the Holy Spirit as a dove in form (UNLIKE you I assume).
I assume ‘like’ and ‘unlike’ are…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
Actually I think my original wording was correct, just not clear. I said:
I do not view the Holy Spirit as a dove in form (like you I assume).
But if I said the following instead, then it would have meant we had differing opinions.
I do not view the Holy Spirit as a dove in form (UNLIKE you I assume).
I assume ‘like’ and ‘unlike’ are…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 1 month ago
t8, if there was any suggestion that I implied you thought that then I apologise. I believe what you believe in that the Holy Spirit descended on Jesus ‘in the manner’ of a dove. I have said so many many times.
Ha, sorry I just realized that the way I worded the following could be misconstrued and was. I said:
I do not view the Holy Spirit as…
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