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Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
Discussing at length (too lengthy) a false claim is to be giving a testament to that falsity. It is not like a respondent in a forum who can attempt to justify himself – it’s just one of thousands of ‘home brewed, I’m a Jesus Christ – listen to me’ videos.
I wouldn’t call it discussing it at length. I think I dedicated one post to it. Ironically,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
t8, and my point is that it is absolutely clear that the guy is talking untowards the truth …so why continue to discuss the falsity of his presentation when he cannot respond to explain. There are enough critically false claims to absolutely dismiss his video commentary.
As mentioned before, it is good to hear alternate explanations. What that d…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
HI t8,
Interesting what you said about messengers. My understanding is that when you die you sleep the sleep of death. As scripture says the dead know nothing, nor can they praise the Lord. Moses and Elijah seemed to have been awakened at times to deliver an important message though.
The first fruits? It seems they may have been given their…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
Jodi, it is certain that the Angels appeared in the guise of human beings. Where the scriptures states them as Angels it is only to ‘remind’ or ‘inform’ the reader that these were not creatures of mankind.
Guise or do they have the ability to appear in physical form. It says we will be like the angels and Moses and Elijah probably appeared like an…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
Jodi and t8, why are you two arguing over a random meandering of some guy who (as both of you point out) is clearly missing ‘a few sandwiches short of a picnic’!
In order to get a balanced view, you need to hear all arguments. If I was bias and only heard what I wanted to hear, then I might still be a Trinitarian. And while I thought this was a f…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
Jodi and t8, why are you two arguing over a random meandering of some guy who (as both of you point out) is clearly missing ‘a few sandwiches short of a picnic’!
In order to get a balanced view, you need to hear all arguments. If I was bias and only heard what I wanted to hear, then I might still be a Trinitarian. And while I thought this was a f…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
Well, No, I do not have a verse and, yes, it is inferred.
Your query would tend to have a suggestion that God created a specific group of ‘out of order’ spirit creatures – which would direct me to ask you, ‘Csn you point out s verse that states this – or are then you inferring?’
My guess is that it is way far easier, and crucially, correct, to…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 11 months ago
Well, No, I do not have a verse and, yes, it is inferred.
Your query would tend to have a suggestion that God created a specific group of ‘out of order’ spirit creatures – which would direct me to ask you, ‘Csn you point out s verse that states this – or are then you inferring?’
My guess is that it is way far easier, and crucially, correct, to…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 12 months ago
The dude says, “clearly the union caused the corruption of the flesh.” This goes against what Jude attributes it to, and is contrary to scripture throughout the bible. In the NT we see warning not to follow the ways of Cain. He was a devil- slanderer and murderer. There are ample scriptures that talk about man’s corruption, none of them even hint…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 12 months ago
The dude brings up Jude 1 and identifies that the strange flesh couldn’t mean homosexuality as strange means other or another, he then uses that to say they had to be angels. What he forgets or just doesn’t know is that there are 4 verses in the bible that forbids beastiality. It is horrible, unnatural, perverse, it defiles and is an abo…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 12 months ago
Thanks Jodi and Jael.
I watched a video just now with an opposing view. I have to say it doesn’t start well for me. He seems to believe a whole host of stuff that I do not agree with and uses verses out of context. For example, he appears to believe there are scriptures that say clearly that Jesus is God and Hell is eternal punishment.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 12 months ago
Yet we know that Humans can be forgiven from their bad ways and wronful thinking – Why? Because they are GREATER Sons of God than Angels. Greater, in that Humans are made ‘In the Image of God’, whereas Angels are not.
Scripture teaches us why angels cannot be forgiven like men can be. The scripture I quote explains it well.
It is impossible for t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 12 months ago
They are now called ‘Demons’ (from ‘Demonic’) to reflect their destructive behaviour and influence in the physical world.
Do you have a verse, or is this inferred?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 12 months ago
Hi Jodi,
From what I just read of that which you write, I think you are a little confused or have been misled.
The definition of ‘Son(s) of God’ is ‘One (Those) or follow the Holy Spirit’, ‘… Who do the works of God’.
It is ok to substitute ‘Father’ for ‘God’ in the above definition as required.
The holy angels ARE ‘Sons of God’.
When…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Are the sons of God the angels? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 12 months ago
I’ve only watched the very beginning of the video and just from that I am confused by why you think it’s good?
You really expect me to answer this question with a straight face?
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Matrix in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 8 years, 12 months ago
You gave me a hard time about using the Matrix as a way to communicate the true gospel, and now you have one of the main characters of that movie as your avatar. lol.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Donald Trump said this today in the forum View Points 8 years, 12 months ago
Statement by President Donald J. Trump on the Attack in Egypt
Terrorists are engaged in a war against civilization, and it is up to all who value life to confront and defeat this evil. This merciless slaughter of Christians in Egypt tears at our hearts and grieves our souls. Wherever innocent blood is spilled, a wound is inflicted upon humanity.…[Read more]Proclaimer started the topic in the forum Visions & Testimonies 8 years, 12 months ago
Near the turn of the 20th century, God gave Seneca Sodi a glorious experience in Heaven.It includes touring Paradise, the Holy City of New Jerusalem, and visiting God’s Throne attended by millions of saints and angels.
Proclaimer started the topic in the forum Visions & Testimonies 8 years, 12 months ago
Near the turn of the 20th century, God gave Seneca Sodi the glorious experience in Heaven.It includes touring Paradise, the Holy City of New Jerusalem, and visiting God’s Throne attended by millions of saints and angels.
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