Do not miss the  1000 year Rest of God.

Me

Are you sure you understand what the Millennium will be and where it will happen….

In the meantime, reread what John wrote on this subject…
Is he talking about rest in particular?
What is it actually about (the whole chapter) ?

🙏

And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key…[Read more]

You

Where is RECEIVING JESUS IN YOUR HEART written as a path to salvation BEREAN?

Did you make it up? 

Me

John 1
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name

Colossians 2:6
Therefore, as you have received the Lo…[Read more]

So you believe the words of God are confusing? Funny, what does God say about wisdom and understanding.

Prov 3:13 Blessed is the one who finds wisdom, and the one who gets understanding,

You always quote NT verses to support your NT belief. Why is it you never quote an OT verses to support a NT idea; shouldn’t the NT be confirmed by t…[Read more]

And the Jackpot is..

da da dah

Doug B.

Me

No

Maybe you’ll understand later?
Not too late I hope for you.

🙏

You: “Thinkers, like yourself, have got to commit intellectual suicide”

Me: So I am suppose to give up my skills of reasoning when it comes to understanding what is said in the NT, this characteristic that God implanted in me – which God also has because I am created in HIS image – and blindly follow the words of man?

You hit it last nig…[Read more]

And you still can’t answer a question; your inability to answer what I have asked makes your silence deafening.

All I have done is read words on a page and when the words don’t align, it creates questions. For you, it’s okay and you blindly accept them without question because someone told you it was “the spirit who wrote the scriptures…[Read more]

How was Jesus a descendant of David when Jesus’ daddy was the spirit? Same question I asked Carmel and received some spiritualized nonsense for a response. When the OT explicitly states the Messiah was to be of the seed (zera) of David; what say you?

As one continues reading this Timothy passage, Paul states Jesus is risen from the dead…[Read more]

All I offer are doubts?!? All I have are questions, start answering them!

Then you say to ask for wisdom, look in the mirror! Funny how those accusing others ignore their own advice. Wisdom is the one thing I ask for daily and God has been opening my eyes to the deception called christianity. God said he is our salvation, not that I have…[Read more]

You: I have no wish to partake in your games of confusion as My God is not a God of confusion…

Me: Isn’t that precious as you pull out your God card, yet you will believe what you are told is truth without ever verifying what you have been told IS truth. I simply quoted what Jesus said and questioned it; you accuse me of playing g…[Read more]

Why, why, why indeed; if only you could answer a question or two verses running away. How about you take a crack at answering what I asked Gene. Won’t hold my breath as you don’t like questions, you just like telling people what they should believe.

you: “Such obvious contempt for God and His ways. yet he can post in the believer’s section?”

me: Obviously you don’t read the left side of your bible, I am simply repeating what is there. Since you are unable to answer questions, I will spare both of us the trouble and tell you to start reading the prophets.

I detect fear in your words a…[Read more]

You

In the beginning was the Word

and the Word was with God

and the Word was God.

The Spirit of Christ, the Spirit of the Son is the Word.

the Word was made flesh and dwelled among us.

we have seen and touched the Word.

John understood.

Me

The Holy Scriptures are explained BY THE HOLY SCRIPTURES WHICH ARE THE SWORD OF THE…[Read more]

You: “You mock the Son of God out of bitter ignorance.”

Me: Mocking is your term, I’m asking questions, questions to difficult for you to answer so you resort to childish antics.

You: “Is 55 was foretelling to the Jews of the forgiveness available to all in the Son of God, Jesus Christ.”

Me: Without any explanation as to why you suppose…[Read more]

Did I miss your explanation of Mark 4:12? Wait, you didn’t give one…my bad.

“Judging the son of man for perceived unfairness”

There is no “perceived unfairness”, I am reading what is written and call it deception. Please tell me how it’s justified to prevent his fellow brothers and sisters from hearing the truth and turning back to God to be forgiven. Please explain the “spirituality” of what Jesus said?…[Read more]

Is my understanding of Mark 4:10-12 incorrect? If so, please explain.

Is my understanding of John 18:20 incorrect? If so, please explain.

Is my understanding of Isa 7:14 incorrect? If so, please explain.

Is my understanding of Ps 16:10 incorrect? If so, please explain.

Is my understanding of Luke 24:46-47 incorrect? If so, please…[Read more]

The Sunworshipper Constantine, who murdered his wife and his son and got involved in the decisions of the church, was most likely baptised in the name of a trinity, which was in vogue by then.

that would not have helped him.

Constantine I, died on May 22, 337 AD. Further, the Trinitarian formula had become the standard in many Christian…[Read more]

Other men invented a theory that Jesus was a man created 2000 years ago as opposed to Jesus Christ coming in the flesh. They deny that he was born the messiah and the Lord.

They also deny that he is the Word of God.

They follow a created man apparently.

Hi Berean,
“Divine son” makes this man his own God?

Did you not know that he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature?

Were you aware that the body we will have is like the glorious body that the Lord Jesus Christ has?

“Be Berean”; that is precious, gave me a good chuckle when I read it.

You ridicule Berean for not verifying what he is told and ridicule me for verifying what I’m told. Tell us what parts of scripture are we to verify and which are we to just blindly accept? Sounds like a contradiction to me. What’s humorous about that statement is you…[Read more]

“To reject Paul is to reject his Master Jesus Christ”; so Paul saves too?!!? Do you not see the Idolatry in that statement? If this is what you believe, you can keep it; I want nothing to do with it…utterly stunned!

Has nothing to do with control, it’s me seeking answers. Answers that you are either afraid to answer for fear of the repercussions it will have on your belief system or you have no answer too. You say there is nothing new under the sun; yet, I have apparently uncovered something “new” because no one, including yourself, can answer the…[Read more]

You realize you have addressed nothing in anything I’ve written; so what is your point in responding? Your religious responses do NOT answer my questions; either answer them and offer insight or remain silent. Your meaningless responses further solidifies what I am discovering and confirms that you don’t know why you believe what you b…[Read more]

I gave you the Bible texts and what do you do with them?

You dodge, always the same….and you call that being anointed with the Spirit.

“I maintain that Jesus was God”

Yes In the biginning “the Word” (the Son OF GOD )was God)

Because my father and my mother were human beings, I am a human being, likewise because Jesus is the literal BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, HE IS OF THE SAME NATURE AS THE FATHER: GOD( divine nature)
VERY SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND.

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AND the Word was mad…[Read more]

Writing interprets writing…
the verse that Proclaimer gave establishes the truth, why resist against the truth?

One another

Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

John 8:48

Me

Authentic conversion influences hereditary and acquired propensities for evil”

You

intellectual nonsense filled with long impressive words from theologians.

Me

Tell me how it’s wrong.

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.(1John3:4)

Moreover the law entered, that the offence m…[Read more]

You still don’t understand, I am merely asking questions and offering additional thoughts, albeit contrary to what I have been taught for over 40 years. You still have answered zero questions; which tells me you aren’t as strong in your faith as you think you are. You keep saying “nothing new under the sun”; then my questions should have…[Read more]

I’m not asking anyone to join me. I’m asking questions that no one seems to be able or willing to answer. Your responses are an excellent example and proves you cannot answer them either. Am I not suppose to question anything? Am I suppose to just blindly accept all that the church tells me? Is blind faith even faith?

Oh wait, I suppose…[Read more]

It is obvious you don’t want to be a part of the conversation, as you have brought nothing to it except contention. Why are you here? Reciprocity is what makes a conversation work; ask a question, have question answered and vice versa. A concept that apparently is foreign to you.

Good luck!

Did you just ask me a question without answering mine? Let’s do this, answer one of my questions and I’ll answer one of yours. I am tired of this question “goal post” moving and me required to answer everyone’s questions while mine remain unanswered.

By the way, what am I suppose to repent of?

So what you’re saying is you aren’t going to answer any of my questions…understood.

Good thing Proclaimer created this website so we could discuss our like thoughts.

I am quoting scripture from the OT and comparing it to its usage in NT; and asking why they don’t match. Apparently my questions are to difficult for you or by answering them truthfully it will overturn your world just like it did mine and it scares you!

Either answer the questions or ignore the conversation!

Why are you so afraid to answer my questions?

So far you have offered nothing to this conversation, other than accusations and condemnation; none of which answer any of the questions I’ve asked. I asked one primary question, Paul said “according to scripture” the Messiah was to die for the sins of mankind, be buried and raised up on the third day. This means it is written in the OT; f…[Read more]

Me: Are we to just accept their interpretations as being truth or do we verify what they’re saying against what the OT actually says? Is there an amount of “twisting” of God’s words that is acceptable?

Anyways, what you’re saying is you have no i…[Read more]

I need you to focus like a laser beam on what I am going to show you; then grab your favorite bible and verify it for yourself.

Rom 10:5-8

5 For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness. 6 But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: “Do not say in your h…[Read more]

You’re “shooting” the messenger; I didn’t make the claim, Paul did. I’m verifying the claim and can’t find it. Hence the question to where in the OT is Paul’s claim. So instead of answering the question, most get defensive and then combative as I ask more questions or offer explanations contrary to what is taught. If the answer is so o…[Read more]

Maybe you can answer the question surrounding what is stated in I Cor 15:3,4 where Paul states “according to scripture” the Messiah was to die for the sins of mankind and be buried and raised from the dead after three days. Paul makes the claim and there was no NT in the first century, so Paul was speaking of it being “prophesied” in the…[Read more]

You: “But knowing there are faults does not mean we are fit to be a judge of scripture.”

Me: I’m not “judging” scripture, I am pointing out the corruption of the translators; if the tenses, plurality, or the punctuation is changed anywhere, the meaning can be changed and a bias inserted. The fact the translators of the KJ changed t…[Read more]

You

Since scriptural truth is established in the mouth of scriptural witnesses( 2 Cor 13.1)

we have few backup verses to establish the meaning of this verse as far as I know. 

….

Please offer your ideas.

Me

I offer you an little Extract of one SDA Commentary :

“This text says that believers join Jesus in the air to be with Him…[Read more]

Such doom and gloom. What is it that uplifts your heart that you give praise and prayer for having this in your life.

@Nick

Hi BD,

Did you not know Jesus was given the Spirit without measure?

God did not say that about any other prophet.

And you have a prophet without the Spirit?`

So Jesus is not like Moses then, thanks for proving my point for me

Hi BD, your point is believing a fallacy.

What do you think Jesus is referring to when…[Read more]

@Nick

Hi BD,

Did you not know Jesus was given the Spirit without measure?

God did not say that about any other prophet.

And you have a prophet without the Spirit?`

So Jesus is not like Moses then, thanks for proving my point for me

Hi BD, your point is a fallacy.

What do you think Jesus is referring to when he said…[Read more]

@Nick

Hi BD,

Did you not know Jesus was given the Spirit without measure?

God did not say that about any other prophet.

And you have a prophet without the Spirit?`

So Jesus is not like Moses then, thanks for proving my point for me

Hi BD, your point is a fallacy.

What do you think Jesus is referring to when he said…[Read more]

@Nick

Hi BD,

Did you not know Jesus was given the Spirit without measure?

God did not say that about any other prophet.

And you have a prophet without the Spirit?`

So Jesus is not like Moses then, thanks for proving my point for me

Hi BD, your point is a fallacy.

What do you think Jesus is referring to when he said…[Read more]

@Nick

Hi BD,

Did you not know Jesus was given the Spirit without measure?

God did not say that about any other prophet.

And you have a prophet without the Spirit?`

So Jesus is not like Moses then, thanks for proving my point for me

Hi BD, your point is a fallacy.

What do you think Jesus is referring to when he said…[Read more]

@Nick

Hi BD,

Did you not know Jesus was given the Spirit without measure?

God did not say that about any other prophet.

And you have a prophet without the Spirit?`

So Jesus is not like Moses then, thanks for proving my point for me

Hi BD, your point is a fallacy.

What do you think Jesus is referring to when he said…[Read more]

@Nick

Hi BD,

Did you not know Jesus was given the Spirit without measure?

God did not say that about any other prophet.

And you have a prophet without the Spirit?`

So Jesus is not like Moses then, thanks for proving my point for me

Hi BD, your point is a fallacy.

What do you think Jesus is referring to when he said…[Read more]

@Nick

Hi BD,

Did you not know Jesus was given the Spirit without measure?

God did not say that about any other prophet.

And you have a prophet without the Spirit?`

So Jesus is not like Moses then, thanks for proving my point for me

Hi BD, your point is a fallacy.

What do you think Jesus is referring to when he said…[Read more]