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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:06:06 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making the monkeys jump is refering to the mimickry of that species. I see lots of mimiciking Christianity, but I am very dissapointed it the lack of reality I see in many on this board. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ALL.Phoenix? You put down Jeff Benner from the very start out of ignornce or unwillingness to hear the truth. Instead you relied on the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-177679"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/6/#post-45149" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:32:38 +1300</pubDate>

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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:35:16 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Mar. 15 2007,18:50--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 15 2007,18:50)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi m42,What can you expect from monkeys?I am sure you have more to offer than just supercilious contempt.If you only come to teach and not to share in learning then have you not deemed yourself superior and unteachable?Loving your neighbour does not include such attitudes does it?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->1. Did not come to teach nor&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-177671"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/6/#post-45063" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:51:15 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Mar. 14 2007,23:03--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2007,23:03)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi m42, We are all learning-painfully perhaps-but learning and building faith.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I am sure that at least some are growing and learning, but I doubt very very much it has anything to do with this site.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:59:22 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Mar. 14 2007,21:27--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2007,21:27)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi m42, Who are the monkeys? All others?That is not very graceful.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->With all the ungracefull things said on here and all the nonsdense, I guess I am not too concerned about it. If these sites had any purpose other then entertainment, perhaps I would take it more seriously.</p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:53:32 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Mar. 14 2007,00:39--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2007,00:39)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi m42, Where does scripture say our spirit is our personality and must be formed?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I would tell you to check out the ancient Hebrew, but you are not that serious about study, so I will just ignor the question.  this site has just about worn itself out for me. especially when those like kendrch and cult buster&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-165807"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/5/#post-44875" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:49:45 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Cult Buster+Mar. 14 2007,12:43--><b>Quote</b> (Cult Buster @ Mar. 14 2007,12:43)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>JESUS IS JEHOVAH AND EQUAL WITH GOD CompareMATTHEW 13:13-15 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. (14) And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and&hellip;</b><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-165806"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/5/#post-44874" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:53:22 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Mar. 13 2007,19:54--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 13 2007,19:54)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi m42,You say  &#8220;His spirit (personality) had not been formed&#8221;.then you say&#8221;The wod spirit is literally breath or wind in both Old and New Testaments. The idea of the spirit being breath or wind does not detract from it being the presence of God.&#8221; So if you are to specific in the meaning of words why call&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-165803"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/5/#post-44797" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:55:35 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-942767+Mar. 08 2007,23:07--><b>Quote</b> (942767 @ Mar. 08 2007,23:07)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-music4two+Mar. 07 2007,15:58--><b>Quote</b> (music4two @ Mar. 07 2007,15:58)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-942767+Mar. 07 2007,02:05--><b>Quote</b> (942767 @ Mar. 07 2007,02:05)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi M42:I&#039;m having difficulty understanding &#8220;being filled with the Holy breath&#8221; in light of the following scriptures: &#8220;As the living Father hath sent me, and I LIVE BY THE FATHER (I understand by obedience to His Word): so he that eateth me,&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-165801"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/5/#post-44731" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:58:02 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi toteach,You asked &#8212;on this journey in the first place&#033;   ) i see a precious little girl who has a mind and will of her own already, but is not yet able &#8211; at least to my knowledge &#8211; to have &#8220;faith.&#8221;  as Jesus was made like us, i do not understand how His faith could have begun so young so as to keep Him from sin.Response  &#8212;Let me make a f&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-165799"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/5/#post-44278" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 01:23:18 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Phoenix+Mar. 09 2007,01:15--><b>Quote</b> (Phoenix @ Mar. 09 2007,01:15)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Well M42 is the clever one with the answers. Why dont you define it M42. Or is this another one of those &#8220;trick&#8221; questions where you already have a full A4 page of the answer that were wanting.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->So many people spout off opinions without proof. I am demanding proof. You don&#039;t want to accept my definitions then show&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-223877"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/31/#post-44185" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:07:06 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Mar. 08 2007,21:11--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 08 2007,21:11)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi M42, First we must define SIN according to scripture as I have done.All have sinned but Paul told us sin lived in him. God only judges SIN committed.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->still not the question I asked.  I ask to define the word &#8220;sin&#8221;.  Not how you do it. Not the results of it. Not how you inherit it.What does the word mean.</p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:44:39 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Mar. 08 2007,20:18--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 08 2007,20:18)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi m42, There are two.Sin that lives in us conceived of obedience to our lusts and Sin actions.We inherit the first and serving the god of this world commit the second.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Not the question I asked.</p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:36:19 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Faith First+Mar. 08 2007,04:36--><b>Quote</b> (Faith First @ Mar. 08 2007,04:36)<!--QuoteEBegin-->1Jo 3:4  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. <b>Heb 10:26  For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Heb 10:27  But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery in&hellip;</b><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-232961"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/30/#post-44094" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:33:25 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Mar. 08 2007,02:02--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 08 2007,02:02)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi m42, We are meant to follow Jesus. If he is different then we cannot do so. What functionality does that have?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Very good point&#033;</p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:19:58 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Phoenix+Mar. 08 2007,04:49--><b>Quote</b> (Phoenix @ Mar. 08 2007,04:49)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Im talking about where you get your translations from.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I know you are talking about the source of the translations.  As I said you got yours from a Rabbi. Rabbis of the Jewish faith or in darkness. They have been for 2000 years.  Without Christ they are in darkness and yes a Christian has a much better chance to&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-232959"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/30/#post-44072" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 04:15:08 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Phoenix+Mar. 08 2007,00:51--><b>Quote</b> (Phoenix @ Mar. 08 2007,00:51)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Woah M42You asked for the Hebrew meaning so I thought I would ask a Rabbi if he could answer it. So I let that be known to you.Now why did you ask for in your post?<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->Still want to know if anyone on here can tell me what &#8220;Keep&#8221; means, as in keep the commandments. While you are at it perhaps you can tell me&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-232956"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/30/#post-44016" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 03:58:04 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Mar. 08 2007,02:06--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 08 2007,02:06)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi m42,Hi m42,You say&#8221;One developes Godly character by having relationship with Jesus. This is why Jesus said “If you love me (develope character through relationship) then you will keep the commandments. &#8221;  Did Jesus become like his father by associating with Him?Do we become like Jesus by just as&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-232953"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/30/#post-44010" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 23:49:38 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is very interesting. I must admit that you make a good case. Honestly, other then for debate purposes, I really see little diference (functionally) whether Christ was filled from birth or at His baptism. I do however want to be accurate with the word and will give this further study.</p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 23:35:16 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Phoenix+Mar. 07 2007,03:42--><b>Quote</b> (Phoenix @ Mar. 07 2007,03:42)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi SeekingHe didnt violate it.. he made it spiritual. Do good on the Sabbath for I am Lord of the Sabbath.Is that how the scripture went? I dont know Im guessing off the top of my head.M42Qal is to Keep&#8230; like .. to observeHiphil is to break or violate it.Thats all the Rabbi told meHugsPhoenix<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I find it curious&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-238629"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/29/#post-43985" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:32:59 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick,First, the general baptism of the Holy Spirit did not occur till Pentacost as seen in Acts 2. John 7:39By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified.you state -We can follow a man who was changed by the baptism in the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-136498"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/3/#post-43951" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:58:37 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-942767+Mar. 07 2007,02:05--><b>Quote</b> (942767 @ Mar. 07 2007,02:05)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi M42:I&#039;m having difficulty understanding &#8220;being filled with the Holy breath&#8221; in light of the following scriptures: &#8220;As the living Father hath sent me, and I LIVE BY THE FATHER (I understand by obedience to His Word): so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me&#8221;.  (John 6:57) And, &#8220;It is the spirit that&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-136497"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/3/#post-43950" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:47:43 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-TimothyVI+Mar. 07 2007,11:05--><b>Quote</b> (TimothyVI @ Mar. 07 2007,11:05)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-music4two+Mar. 06 2007,23:15--><b>Quote</b> (music4two @ Mar. 06 2007,23:15)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Mar. 06 2007,19:56--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2007,19:56)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi Tim, Jesus was transformed and began his power ministry from the time of the Jordan and not before. In contrast to his early life from that moment onwards every word and action was the work of God in him and precious records are&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-136496"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/3/#post-43949" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:46:26 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Mar. 07 2007,04:26--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2007,04:26)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi m42,You say.&#8221;You cannot base a belief on what is not said.&#8221;  And yet you say&#8221;To this point I agree with yourconclusions, providing you are not taking the stand that Jesus was filled with the Spirit at His baptism. It is my contention that Jesus was filled with the Spirit/breath of God from birth. Several&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-136495"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/3/#post-43948" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:37:35 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Mar. 06 2007,23:25--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2007,23:25)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi m42, You say&#8221; At His baptism Jesus was given a full measure of the anointing to do the work set for him.&#8221; Is this your understanding of the baptism in the Spirit?You still say Christ was not like to us. Are we not of the breath of God too?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I have never said christ was not like us. If you remember on the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-136494"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/3/#post-43946" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:34:05 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still want to know if anyone on here can tell me what &#8220;Keep&#8221; means, as in keep the commandments. While you are at it perhaps you can tell me what &#8220;break&#8221; the commandments means too.A reasonable person would not assume the English words portray the exact menaing of the authors wanted to show.</p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:15:56 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Mar. 06 2007,19:56--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2007,19:56)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi Tim, Jesus was transformed and began his power ministry from the time of the Jordan and not before. In contrast to his early life from that moment onwards every word and action was the work of God in him and precious records are kept for our sakes.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->You cannot base a belief on what is not said.  It does not&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-136489"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/3/#post-43900" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:35:06 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certtainly Jesus was anointed for His public ministry at the jordon, but just as it does not say He was filled from birth, neither does it say He was filled at baptism. The fact that the holy breath decended like a dove is still not proof of filling. The fact that He did no miracles prior to His anointing for the ministry proves nothing. Miracles&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-136676"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/2/#post-43816" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:50:12 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a look at Col 2 in context will shed some light on the subject.Col 2 1For I want you to know how great a struggle I have on your behalf and for those who are at Laodicea, and for all those who have not personally seen my face,  2that their hearts may be encouraged, having been knit together in love, and attaining to all the wealth that c&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-262616"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/25/#post-43737" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:32:43 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-toteachachild+Feb. 24 2007,11:04--><b>Quote</b> (toteachachild @ Feb. 24 2007,11:04)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary.  He came in the flesh, sent by His Father, and at His baptism, the Spirit of God descended upon Him like a dove.  Afterwards, He demonstrated many miracles, signs, and wonders.  Jesus never uttered the words &#8211; I am God.  He did say tha&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-136674"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/2/#post-43735" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic a doctrine in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 01:25:02 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Ciara 10622+Jan. 15 2007,08:28--><b>Quote</b> (Ciara 10622 @ Jan. 15 2007,08:28)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--emo&amp;:)--><img loading="lazy" src="http://www.heavennet.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" alt=':)' /><!--endemo-->  What does Doctrine mean?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Doctrine means teaching.Teaching from the Hebrew perspective can be summed up in the TorahHebraic Word StudiesTorahThe Hebrew word &#8220;Torah&#8221; is usually translated into the English word &#8220;Law&#8221;. Because of this translation there is a great misunderstanding of what &#8220;Torah&#8221; truly is.&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-137792"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/a-doctrine/#post-43780" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 01:18:33 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Mar. 04 2007,21:52--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2007,21:52)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi m42, It is the work of God to build up a relationship with us who are in His Son, infilling us with grace to make us into Christ as the inner man.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->If all is grace and we do not play an active role in or relationship then why does it say this &#8212;&#8211;Revelation 19:7Let us rejoice and be glad and give him&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-267177"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/24/#post-43699" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 01:14:45 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Mar. 05 2007,00:42--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2007,00:42)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi kenrch,Shoot at her as much as you like.She is no friend of mine and neither is OT legalism.But do not shoot at your brother as you may be shooting at your own foot.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->You know what I find curious Nick? there are those who accuse others of being part of the Harlot Church and yet they constantly throw out&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-271448"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/23/#post-43698" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 21:42:23 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,I fear you are wasting your time with those that have no desire to see beyond the English translations of scripture or learn anything new. You are also wasting your time with those who think so poorly of humanity. This is shown by the attitude they hold toward legalism.Everyone is throwing around scripture talking about keeping and breaking&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-276868"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/22/#post-43656" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic Questions about Jesus in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 15:39:50 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-TimothyVI+Mar. 04 2007,11:09--><b>Quote</b> (TimothyVI @ Mar. 04 2007,11:09)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Thank you for that very thorough historical trail of the trinity invention music4two.Many people discredit the trinity idea with a few well known verses in the bible, me included.But you have obviously done considerable research for your book.Just one note, if this is a transcript of your book. In one place&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-136673"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/2/#post-43616" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 02:27:34 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can An Immortal God Die?	In this section we will investigate current and common ways in which Jesus is portrayed. As I go thru some of these quotes I would hope you would see the lack of reason or logic contained in their statements.	On one of the web sites I researched I found this content, it states that Jesus is The true and living God and I&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-136671"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/2/#post-43591" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 02:24:11 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-toteachachild+Feb. 24 2007,11:04--><b>Quote</b> (toteachachild @ Feb. 24 2007,11:04)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary.  He came in the flesh, sent by His Father, and at His baptism, the Spirit of God descended upon Him like a dove.  Afterwards, He demonstrated many miracles, signs, and wonders.  Jesus never uttered the words &#8211; I am God.  He did say tha&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-136670"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-jesus/page/2/#post-43590" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:05:07 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Phoenix+Mar. 03 2007,03:19--><b>Quote</b> (Phoenix @ Mar. 03 2007,03:19)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi M42I highly praise the man who created the website you showed us where you got your information from. Praise for all the hard work he does in his website.However, do you think his writings are valid? He isnt even a scholar. I mean at least James Strong was a Professor. And according to his concordance&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-283968"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/20/#post-43579" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:56:01 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-kenrch+Mar. 02 2007,21:04--><b>Quote</b> (kenrch @ Mar. 02 2007,21:04)<!--QuoteEBegin-->And what does that change?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->You know I posted information on here for those who might find interest. You seem to have such anger toward anyone resembling a human teacher that you imediately go to the attack. I brought in the Hebrew meanings of words not to argue with you but to add a richness to the discussion and&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-283469"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/18/#post-43500" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:24:21 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-TimothyVI+Mar. 02 2007,21:25--><b>Quote</b> (TimothyVI @ Mar. 02 2007,21:25)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-music4two+Mar. 02 2007,18:46--><b>Quote</b> (music4two @ Mar. 02 2007,18:46)<!--QuoteEBegin-->When ever I come accross a debate about the law or the commandments, I without doubt find those with legalistic Western outlooks on the subject. They seem to miss the sweetness, tenderness and fatherly aspects of a God who calls us His children.Perhaps we could benifit&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-283468"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/18/#post-43499" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:16:43 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a paraphrase of many sources I have studied so I do not lay claim to all the concepts or words.&#8221;There are six days when you may work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, a day of sacred assembly. You are not to do any work; wherever you live, it is a Sabbath to the LORD. (Leviticus 23:3)Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-283467"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/18/#post-43498" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:00:16 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-kenrch+Mar. 02 2007,20:27--><b>Quote</b> (kenrch @ Mar. 02 2007,20:27)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-music4two+Mar. 02 2007,19:59--><b>Quote</b> (music4two @ Mar. 02 2007,19:59)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-kenrch+Mar. 02 2007,19:03--><b>Quote</b> (kenrch @ Mar. 02 2007,19:03)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Maybe you don&#039;t understand or maybe (although I said it many times) didn&#039;t make it clear. I need scripture not what this guy and that guy said.  You don&#039;t think Satan has scholars.2Co 11:13  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, t&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-280079"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/17/#post-43484" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 19:59:30 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-kenrch+Mar. 02 2007,19:03--><b>Quote</b> (kenrch @ Mar. 02 2007,19:03)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Maybe you don&#039;t understand or maybe (although I said it many times) didn&#039;t make it clear. I need scripture not what this guy and that guy said.  You don&#039;t think Satan has scholars.2Co 11:13  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 2Co 11:14  And no ma&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-280074"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/17/#post-43470" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:46:02 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When ever I come accross a debate about the law or the commandments, I without doubt find those with legalistic Western outlooks on the subject. They seem to miss the sweetness, tenderness and fatherly aspects of a God who calls us His children.Perhaps we could benifit from understanding the “law” (torah).  We of the Western cultures see law as&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-280071"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/17/#post-43460" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:27:38 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-music4two+Mar. 02 2007,15:49--><b>Quote</b> (music4two @ Mar. 02 2007,15:49)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-TimothyVI+Mar. 02 2007,15:31--><b>Quote</b> (TimothyVI @ Mar. 02 2007,15:31)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi music4two,I never expected that from you.Who is predestined to go to heaven?Tim<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Your right Tim. It was a joke, although I know some who would actually say such things.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->sometimes these boards get so serious. You need to laugh at it a bit. Kind of like beauty&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-276435"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/16/#post-43444" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:49:19 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-TimothyVI+Mar. 02 2007,15:31--><b>Quote</b> (TimothyVI @ Mar. 02 2007,15:31)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi music4two,I never expected that from you.Who is predestined to go to heaven?Tim<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Your right Tim. It was a joke, although I know some who would actually say such things.</p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:26:47 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it really makes no difference what you do. If you are predestined to go to heaven then you will go. It makes no difference if you obey the commandments or not.</p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:21:40 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Faith First+Mar. 02 2007,02:28--><b>Quote</b> (Faith First @ Mar. 02 2007,02:28)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Nick Hassen.<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->Who are these saints in the last days?Rev 14:12  Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. Let me guess, Jews?&#8221; Jews do not hold the testimony of Jesus. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Rev 14:12 is referring to obedient commandment keeping&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-276431"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/16/#post-43440" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:15:04 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone taking into account that God says we ae judged by the heart? This would indicate to me that it is much more aout attitude then it is about law. For example Jesus tells the story of the two sinners. One is smug and says he is glad he is not a wretch like the other. The last one has a humble attitude and begs forgivness. It was about&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-270881"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/15/#post-43388" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>music4two replied to the topic The Ten Commandments in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:06:59 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Faith First+Mar. 01 2007,11:29--><b>Quote</b> (Faith First @ Mar. 01 2007,11:29)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Exo 20:10  But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:(Sunday is the Mark of the Beast)  Only the mother church  and her harlot daughters keep Sunday.  See the following.What The Churches Say About The SabbathCatholic&#8221;Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change” (Sabbath to SUNday) “was&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-266680"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-ten-commandments/page/14/#post-43359" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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