That's a long rationalization, Wakeup.  But Jesus didn't say “It will SEEM LIKE today when you're with me in paradise”, right?Anyway, it seems that we agree that Jesus didn't go to some place called paradise on the very day he died.  Some people think “paradise” is a Hebrew idiom for Sheol. As if the place of the dead should be called “…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 10 2013,23:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2013,12:19)Wakeup,Do you understand that both the Hebrew and Greek words for “worship” also mean “do obeisance” or “pay homage” or “bow down before in an act of reverence”?The same words mean all of those things, and are translated as each of those things throughout scripture.So in the…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 11 2013,16:14)God knew that evil will be born soon enough.So evil “was born”, huh? So God DIDN'T actually create it Himself? It “was born” later on?Even your own words disagree with the “evil” translation of Isaiah 45:7 in the KJV, Wakeup.

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 10 2013,23:39)Were you there when Lucifer chose to oppose God?CHOSE to oppose God? Hmmmm………..So then God DIDN'T originally create him as an evil being?

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 10 2013,23:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2013,12:13)Like journey has acknowledged, going AGAINST God's laws and rules is what constitutes “evil”.  And surely God didn't create the ACT of going against His own laws and rules.Hi Mike, Explained nicely, but my point was that God DID create an adversary to go against his…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,20:59)BUT NO GOD DID NOT CREATED SATAN , SATAN CREATED HIMSELF AGAINST GOD WILL ,Huh? Are you telling me that the spirit being who was given permission by God to mess up Job's life actually created himself?I must be misunderstanding you.

journey?4th post on page 16?

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 11 2013,16:27)and Jesus said: today you will be with me in *paradise*.That scripture can be translated two ways, Wakeup.1.  Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.2.  Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise.The only difference is the placement of the comma – which wasn't in the original text -…[Read more]

Wakeup,Isaiah 257 On this mountain he will destroy the shroud that enfolds all peoples, the sheet that covers all nations;8 he will swallow up death forever. The Sovereign LORD will wipe away the tears from all faces; he will remove his people’s disgrace from all the earth. The LORD has spoken.Revelation 21:4He will wipe every tear from their e…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 11 2013,12:23)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,23:42)gno gene ,just only one almighty true God and all the other gods are lesser gods but are very realT,There are no lesser gods mentioned in Scripture but there is those called gods mentioned.There are also those “called” kings and lords in scripture, Kerwin.Will you tell us…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 11 2013,11:08)Terrica…….So who is one of you “LITTLE” god's, that you know of please enlighten us, and if you “truly believe he or it is a “real “god or GOD to you , then you must serve it and trust in it's power, because that is only what a God or god can be to anyone who believe in them.Well, in the case of…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 10 2013,12:02)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 10 2013,01:30)T,You still have not come up with a passage that proves only spirit can enter the kingdom of heaven.kMT 22:30 “For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.Add the following to the scripture Pierre posted:John 3…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 10 2013,10:34)Mike,Feel free to quote a passage in Scripture that states only a spirit can enter the kingdom of heaven.One of the passages that teach this was already given to you yesterday. If you can successfully answer the question I asked about that passage in my post today, I will deem you worthy of my time to help you…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 10 2013,10:16)It is not written that only spirit will inherit the kingdom of GodLike I said Kerwin, read John 3 over and over again.Why, according to Jesus' words in that passage, must we be born again? If you can answer that, you'll be well on your way to understanding the teaching.

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 10 2013,10:49)I have been told by others it makes things difficult to understand. Now I am aware of it perhaps I can change.Really Kerwin? Now that JOURNEY said it, you've become “aware of it”? What are the rest of us? Chopped liver?

Quote (journey42 @ Dec. 09 2013,19:31)Kerwin, the way you ask the question is confusing. Why not just ask plainly. I spend a lot of time just trying to work out what you are saying, and hope I've understood the question right.Amen.

Quote (942767 @ Dec. 10 2013,16:31)I understand that this is a restricted topic………..Don't worry about it, Marty.  This thread is now open to all, since JB2U seems to have disappeared for good.Quote (942767 @ Dec. 10 2013,16:31)The author states that we should not add or take away from God's Word, but then states that the companion that was…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 08 2013,22:57)Yes Jesus was brought forth Mike…NOT made, merely brought forth.Kathi,The Hebrew word “yalad”, which is most often translated as “begotten”, technically means “brought forth”.So Cain was BROUGHT FORTH by Adam. And Jesus was BROUGHT FORTH by his and our God, Jehovah.

Wakeup,Do you understand that both the Hebrew and Greek words for “worship” also mean “do obeisance” or “pay homage” or “bow down before in an act of reverence”?The same words mean all of those things, and are translated as each of those things throughout scripture.So in the end, it all comes down to an English translator's CHOICE to translate as…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2013,17:58)MIKESO I WAS WRONG ,to me God did not created SATAN ,Satan created himself like everyone that reject righteousness and so sinI would like to know how you came to that conclusion God created a beautiful spirit being. That spirit being later rebelled against the God who created him, and started doing evil…[Read more]