https://heavennet.net/members/meerkat/activity/ Activity feed for meerkat. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 a807f8ee56d9fbd7d6b2daf2d5d6dc57 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-all-mortal-or-just-his-body/page/4/#post-138575 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:38:00 +1200 Quote (Paladin @ July 24 2009,03:06)Quote (meerkat @ July 23 2009,22:56)Paladin/JodiReading your posts to each other on the sons of God that took daughters of men to wife and had children with them and I tend to agree with Jodi.If they were angels it would have said angels (malak)  – it was sons of God – When you read the geneology of Jesus, Adam…[Read more]

]]> ffc44783e43cccdc50498c2599cc6622 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-all-mortal-or-just-his-body/page/3/#post-138533 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:56:02 +1200 Paladin/JodiReading your posts to each other on the sons of God that took daughters of men to wife and had children with them and I tend to agree with Jodi.If they were angels it would have said angels (malak)  – it was sons of God – When you read the geneology of Jesus, Adam is the son of God, Paladin,Tartarus is of pagan greek origin – the…[Read more]

]]> c44f140c9be49f844f013ea9533e2562 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/proper-decorum/#post-133704 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:09:44 +1200 I second Mandy's post ………… It is great of you 3 to show respect to each other.

]]> c239ef03bab4f15b5f316a3e965d9b85 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-new-worlds-translation-on-titus-213/page/9/#post-133383 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:59:10 +1200 Thinker,When it says that Christ will be subject to the Father so that God can be all in all – it is different from you saying that it really means the the distinction between Father and Son is lost. It does not say that.  It says that Christ will be G5293ὑποτάσσωhupotassōhoop-ot-as'-soFrom G5259 and G5021; to subordinate; reflexively to obey:…[Read more]

]]> f5451825a164b9ec597b7a923e30f690 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-new-worlds-translation-on-titus-213/page/7/#post-133045 Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:02:23 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 10 2009,11:28)Quote (meerkat @ June 09 2009,16:25)Thinker and WJI have noticed that the wording in the KJV is different from what was quoted in the starter postbefore Saviour Jesus Christ is the word “our”  are there any other examples of the rule that have this – does this additional word separate the 2 persons of…[Read more]

]]> 99fad0933d52253bfa2747e73a09fed3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-new-worlds-translation-on-titus-213/page/7/#post-133022 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:25:09 +1200 Thinker and WJI have noticed that the wording in the KJV is different from what was quoted in the starter postbefore Saviour Jesus Christ is the word “our” are there any other examples of the rule that have this – does this additional word separate the 2 persons of “the great God” and our “Saviour Jesus Christ” ??

]]> 8f7fc50f864085c4d56d48b1d797f771 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-new-worlds-translation-on-titus-213/page/7/#post-133021 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:16:38 +1200 Quote (thethinker @ June 10 2009,05:54)Meerkat said:Quote It seems to me that in Titus 1:4  that there is reference to God the Father distinct from  Jesus our Saviour   in other places we are told that God is our Saviour   that does not mean that they are the same person or that one and not the other is our saviour – to me it seems that God is our…[Read more]

]]> da5e6a2967539611c88ee69da84b80b8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-new-worlds-translation-on-titus-213/page/6/#post-132967 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:00:07 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 09 2009,22:14)Hi TT, God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself. God saves through Jesus.I agree, Nick

]]> d8247403bda2cc0ff7380ef984213710 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-new-worlds-translation-on-titus-213/page/6/#post-132966 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 09:55:46 +1200 It seems to me that in Titus 1:4  that there is reference to God the Father distinct from  Jesus our Saviour   in other places we are told that God is our Saviour   that does not mean that they are the same person or that one and not the other is our saviour – to me it seems that God is our Saviour and he is saving us THROUGH his son Jesus Chr…[Read more]

]]> f73c4e366e90ef653db17ea1a3c4bc96 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/ephesians-6/#post-132894 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:44:39 +1200 Quote (942767 @ June 09 2009,14:18)Quote (meerkat @ June 09 2009,12:06)Quote (942767 @ June 09 2009,13:47)Hi Jodi:You say: that “we were born chilren of wrath”.  Where can I find that scripture?Thanks,Love in Christ,MartyEphesians 2:3Ephesians 2:1 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to…[Read more]

]]> 06d0aabccf691b7fb05b843b2727c7c5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/ephesians-6/#post-132887 Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:06:44 +1200 Quote (942767 @ June 09 2009,13:47)Hi Jodi:You say: that “we were born chilren of wrath”.  Where can I find that scripture?Thanks,Love in Christ,MartyEphesians 2:3Ephesians 2:1 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the…[Read more]

]]> 2b3a44e4ed690617b05b8bdc27571f59 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jude-19/#post-132458 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:54:03 +1200 Excellent post, Jodi

]]> 77180df0da50e12480cc18bf775d50b7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/three-days-and-three-nights-36/#post-132149 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:44:06 +1200 Quote (bodhitharta @ June 02 2009,08:39)Quote (Paladin @ June 02 2009,03:09)Jesus did not die on Friday, he died on Thursday. Actually there are two Sabbaths” under consideration, and they are referenced by Mathew's account. Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbatwn , as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the…[Read more]

]]> 4bdbdc428bda62ab311f02033a1da28d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-god-cannot-do/page/3/#post-121768 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:23:22 +1300 Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 17 2009,07:48)Meerkat said:Quote You seem to rely on Jesus never having the ability to sin is why he never did sin when it was Gods foreknowledge and Spirit which kept his son from sinning. I agree with Martian that to be tempted there is a choice and awareness involved – if there was never the awareness and ability to…[Read more]

]]> eb3d8ca5393d7a43315361745e3c927c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-god-cannot-do/page/2/#post-121749 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:16:15 +1300 Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 17 2009,06:38)Martian said:Quote Certainly if Christ had sinned it would have interfered with God’s foreknowledge because God would have seen something different then we now know he saw. Had that happened Gods promises would have been written differently.In other words, Christ's ability to interfere implies that God's p…[Read more]

]]> e1cf1281b6feddc8b64ea4a5d3729498 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/hayah-in-exodus-314/#post-121581 Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:08:38 +1300 Thinker,The Moses and the snake example is still referring directly to the situation that is being talked about and the snake was/existed/exists/became in the present time of the future event that was being talked about.What you are trying to prove is that hayah can mean that God will become something at a future time that is not related to the…[Read more]

]]> 9dab7e3f457ac01a0f5a4fe9d4674ce2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-promises-you-will-stop-sinning/page/8/#post-121386 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:07:06 +1300 Nick This thread is Jesus promises YOU will stop sinning – have you stopped?Has any christian stopped sinning while in a physical, carnal human body?

]]> 3a42172f127ad99a499f5669b3f69987 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/faith-alone/page/10/#post-121385 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 23:04:08 +1300 Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 13 2009,10:20)Meerkat said:Quote Martian,You seem to be judging this board only by the vocal people who are replying negatively to your posts and challenging you Meerkat,I agree with you and and I thank you for saying this. If you challenge Martian or his sources you're just speaking “opinion”. Yet I have provided two…[Read more]

]]> 271c09c930174a85cdc3e82a85097ff3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/faith-alone/page/10/#post-121379 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:35:12 +1300 Quote (thethinker @ Feb. 13 2009,11:23)Meerkat said:Quote But if I look at 1961 {hayah} and the other places in scripture that it is used , it does not always have a future sense to it and when it has a future sense to it is because the context of the passage is future itself.I agree that it doesn't always have a future sense. I was commenting…[Read more]

]]> e151f2461ed80dd42a3f49c51a8509c6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/faith-alone/page/10/#post-121378 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:26:02 +1300 It seems to me that there are overlaps between the threads in that faith alone vs faith plus works depends on what you mean by faith and what you mean by works – Some could be referring to faith as a mental belief in Jesus and a fear of hell causing them to abide by works of rituals of purification and obedience ie baptism then churchgoing and no…[Read more]

]]> 4c85c5efc66c918a8edd1f6058f1f2da http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/overcomers/#post-121371 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:01:52 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2009,22:23)GB, You claim equality with your Lord? Are you not his servant?Some he calls friends even brothers but it is his perogative, not ours.Nick,Are you trying to judge anothers salvation?Jesus was born a fleshly man – a human brother to all humans, he knows our weaknesses and can minister to us – however by the…[Read more]

]]> a2a2db1a7819dae6afc672a7ba222da5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-promises-you-will-stop-sinning/page/7/#post-121365 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:38:02 +1300 Kerwin,Gene is not saying it is OK to sin – he is acknowledging that we are human beings saved by the grace of God. It is God that works in us to clean us from all unrighteousness. However while in a physical, lustful, human body we will not be totally like Jesus and totally without sin, we need to confess our sins which can include pride, false…[Read more]

]]> f5adba1247272c2aa6df42b55c350838 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/faith-alone/page/9/#post-121356 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:14:10 +1300 Thinker You say Quote I'm interested only in the Scriptures. And the Scriptures say this, “I will BECOME what I shall become” (Ex. 3:14). But if I look at 1961 {hayah} and the other places in scripture that it is used , it does not always have a future sense to it and when it has a future sense to it is because the context of the passage is…[Read more]

]]> 63157884150ae5ace7fa0c2affee0b89 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/faith-alone/page/9/#post-121349 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:29:22 +1300 Quote (martian @ Feb. 13 2009,03:49)For the above reasons I do not take this board very seriously. For those on here that cannot answer those questions I posed. I am glad you are here because that means you have less time out messing up people in the real world.As for me I take this as an entertainment venue and thats all. Like watching a football…[Read more]

]]> 6fc97802907f09b27d52aedd8efbf261 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/hope/#post-121347 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:12:27 +1300 Thank you, Seeking!!

]]> 85c55a74e09a816c8baf1b43a4ebe5c7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/preexistence-part-1/page/324/#post-121338 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:22:41 +1300 Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 13 2009,06:58)WJ……..(Sea) in Revelations is symbolic for human beings. I saw a Beast rising out of the SEA , this does not mean the ocean but the sea of Humanity. I am not saying it could not be a literial Sea but it also could be relating to Humanity no longer existing in the earth, and God is recreating man into…[Read more]

]]> 757c88b3417709a9ea7af19ea517fe8c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-kingdom-of-god/page/25/#post-121276 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:58:06 +1300 Stop bickering!!

]]> 64bb41cdb31ffd473396b68d6813bcb6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-promises-you-will-stop-sinning/page/6/#post-121191 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:43:48 +1300 Mandy Very well said – I agree 200%

]]> f06fafaea847eb96210ccb35aac83b37 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/sabbath-7/page/61/#post-121182 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:29:56 +1300 Quote (david @ Feb. 10 2009,19:00)Quote Fact is if you really understood Scripture like you think you could explain your points with very little uotes .–GeneQuote But Gene, did you ever consider that the point of using scripture, isn't for your sake, but for the sake of those who listen to you?David this is a good point, I do like posts that even…[Read more]

]]> 3ecfcb69a644d13c3177dc23025b10cf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/songs-to-praise-god/page/19/#post-121153 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:45:37 +1300 Thank you Irene ….. wow, that song takes me back to childhood.

]]> dc8421cc7fa69e6b4bef52bae9ec18ba http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/preexistence-part-1/page/322/#post-121094 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:15:42 +1300 Hi Irene,I agree with you that if you think something is the truth you need to voice it, and I also think that we need to listen to what people are saying and look at the scriptures with open eyes, minds and hearts – always open to the guiding of the Holy Spirit. I agree that getting frustrated with our brothers and sisters is not showing the love…[Read more]

]]> 63c8aec5817b224c47e5996dfd2ce496 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-promises-you-will-stop-sinning/page/5/#post-121092 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:38:20 +1300 Mandy Very nice to see you back …………… my prayers are also with you ……..

]]> 3d31eca83fec0d4767cb5cfb218c9e31 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-promises-you-will-stop-sinning/page/5/#post-121053 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:19:02 +1300 Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 10 2009,19:46)Gene Balthrop wrote:Quote To All………He who says He has (NO SIN) IS A LIAR> is there anyone Here without SIN , Let Him speak up. I would like to Know ? If Not then those who require it of others, and are not themselves, are nothing more then HYPOCRITES AND LIARS> IMOThat makes you a servant of the devil…[Read more]

]]> e2863c81b50e7f30fa6a5e5bcd2359bf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/baptism-68/page/46/#post-120983 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 04:05:02 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 10 2009,16:40)Hi TT, Indeed 1000 years is as one day.Ps90Only with the lord – for us and for Paul 1000 years is a long time and Paul would not have said at hand if he actually meant 2000 years.

]]> 188ef3f6c3dd0f8df37658b1d969353b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-gospel/page/41/#post-120865 Mon, 09 Feb 2009 01:02:49 +1300 Quote (SEEKING @ Feb. 09 2009,13:39)Nick,Your questions were –Quote Should we scold the messengers of truth for their unkindness? Quote Should we scold the messengers of truth for their unkindness? You have my answers. What kind of inane response is this, The wrath of God is not the fate men should risk. Pulling some out of the fire is…[Read more]

]]> cfd74a4128e3671de9877cdc97f8c81a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fear-of-god/page/30/#post-120578 Sat, 07 Feb 2009 00:56:28 +1300 Kerwin What people say and perceive are not always the totality of what they are thinking and what is happening with them …… I say I am “attempting” to obey and follow and admit I make mistakes because I am human ……. you assume I am doing it all on my own efforts …. however there is a synergy between God giving me hope and faith and…[Read more]

]]> f5cf617bf19b3946376afbe1e021cc6f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/songs-to-praise-god/page/18/#post-120540 Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:58:47 +1300 Quote (Cindy @ Feb. 07 2009,05:06)Very nice, I just love the lyrics. And thank you much. In song we are united in the Lord or Savior, that is were it is save and happy, peaceful and all good things. All is well with our Souls.Love Irene Irene, I like coming here too – All is well, because of the unity of Spirit through our Lord ——- hymns say…[Read more]

]]> a9ab4d8a5ef3b5c4b7de8ea6a60fd5cf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/songs-to-praise-god/page/18/#post-120504 Fri, 06 Feb 2009 06:21:09 +1300 Through The Love Of God Our Saviour HymnThrough the love of God our Saviour,All will be well,Free and changeless is His favour;All, all is well.Precious is the blood that healed us,Perfect is the grace that sealed us,Strong the hand stretched forth to shield us,All must be well.Though we pass through tribulation.All will be well,Ours is such a…[Read more]

]]> c2790eb18afc9ade071c9b89d1ebfcd7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-second-death/page/3/#post-120468 Fri, 06 Feb 2009 00:32:07 +1300 Quote (Cindy @ Feb. 06 2009,12:22)MeerkatA resurrection simply means to receive life again after one has died. However, the reward for the once resurrected first is greater than the once that come up later. The Bible says, the second death hath no power over those that are in the first resurrection, Rev. 20:6, because they were resurrected with a…[Read more]

]]> cebef6441f3e3b76f947633773059a86 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-second-death/page/3/#post-120457 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:20:22 +1300 Nick, So are you saying that we can not put faith in Jesus resurrection from the dead – that even if we are resurrected we could still be subject to mortality.When he says that he is the resurrection and the life – that resurrection and life can be perishable?When Jesus said he had a body did that mean that it was a corruptible body? I don't…[Read more]

]]> 92a810a753c8a60ebdc6e8057ad450d6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-second-death/page/3/#post-120453 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:01:21 +1300 Quote (Cindy @ Feb. 06 2009,03:14)meerkatJob 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. The spirit that goes back to God at our death, is his Holy Spirit that he gave us; the Holy Spirit does not dwell in a dead corpse.Is. 42:5, God created the earth, and he gave the breath of life to the people on it,…[Read more]

]]> ce4bd39b76b54eda68452649241d4c0a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-second-death/page/3/#post-120447 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:03:50 +1300 Quote (samual @ Feb. 05 2009,23:58)2 Peter 3:7 (New American Standard Bible)“But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.” Revelation 21:8 (New American Standard Bible)“But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral perso…[Read more]

]]> 7a4514ecebaaf34f68aef4cc136ec784 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-second-death/page/3/#post-120444 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:38:34 +1300 Quote (Cindy @ Feb. 06 2009,03:14)meerkatI am surprised to hear you say, you don't believe in two resurrection, the Bible is very clear on that, Rev. 20:5. The Bible calls this the first resurrection, because the saints will be resurrected before any one else, therefore it is commonly referred to as the second resurrection. And, yes, only the…[Read more]

]]> f7cf5e4df12917f54d23aebf32af4d50 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/faith-alone/#post-120443 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:24:42 +1300 Seeking What I have thought is faith is not just a mental belief and desire for outward actions, it is more to do with what happens to your heart when you believe and your actions and obedience come from the heart – it has to do with faithfulness to all to do with the Spirit – trying to emulate the nature of Christ.

]]> 7ab651dbeded12c1aaef3bcb3d604544 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fear-of-god/page/29/#post-120440 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:07:50 +1300 Kerwin,From my feelings and understandings at the moment is that I love God and Christ and am trying to obey him, and learn – I do not fear (as in scared of Him) God, I do have an immernse awe of his total power and infiniteness – to me it is because I love him and trust him to help me when I sin because I am human and sin and when I do sin, I…[Read more]

]]> 174ec11b4b4dcf55c4dd7ac6b023dbe3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fear-of-god/page/29/#post-120437 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:45:10 +1300 Kerwin,My point was not that you were defending right and pointing out what you thought was error it was your manner and tone and your assumption that because Gene has what you term a false teachings that he is not saved. My comment was aimed at both of you because Gene is also making personal attacks against you as well, as well as those who do…[Read more]

]]> 2df0091c05919e2471ce4aff5839e179 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-soul/page/42/#post-120389 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:03:08 +1300 Quote (chosenone @ Feb. 05 2009,20:17)Thus, to sum up, just as human existence is joined to the soil (for the human was formed of the soil before the spirit was imparted), and as spirit is the source of life, so the soul is the seat of sensation. And for human beings, sensation is impossible except where there is a material body vivified by a…[Read more]

]]> 9d3b7ed315ed16c066b88794e2b3dc2a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-second-death/page/2/#post-120342 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:39:11 +1300 Quote (Cindy @ Feb. 05 2009,13:32)meerkatPeople have the breath of life, not the breath of God.Psa 104:29 Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust. Where do you read that man has an immortal soul; I assume that is what you believe, right?And this is how death and the grave are…[Read more]

]]> 0259e208b0b325970ad5e7df43a0648c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-second-death/page/2/#post-120340 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:19:54 +1300 Quote (samual @ Feb. 05 2009,13:22)Meercat… Greetings!Although there is much symbolic representation throughout Revelation, you cannot dispute what Jesus stated:Matthew 25:41;46 (New American Standard Bible)“Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and…[Read more]

]]> f55adf236e1789426f5a08cce0f6edbc http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/take-my-yoke/page/2/#post-120331 Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:28:27 +1300 Quote (martian @ Jan. 13 2009,08:16)What did Jesus mean when He said this?Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your soulsSince this verse is in Matthew and Matthew was originally written in Hebrew we must look at Hebrew scriptures and culture for like concepts.To completely…[Read more]

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