Thinker,Not only are you mean spirited, but you misrepresent people, and you are arrogant. You are very small in my mind right now. Plus you are vulgar!!! May the Lord spare you.

Thinker,you are mean spirited!

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 25 2009,02:21)Hi KathiQuote (Lightenup @ April 25 2009,08:37)Hi Keith,I had to pack a lunch to get through those last two posts. Thanks for all that time.  LOL that’s funny. I gues you better pack dinner You give me so much to respond to. I am gonna be gracious and leave my quotes out for the sake of shortening th…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 25 2009,01:04)Hi LU,If we are not begotten of God through being united to Jesus we are only able to hope for mercy in the judgement.Hi Nick,You are right Nick that we must be united with Jesus to be “begotten of God” but Jesus did not have to be united with Himself to be “begotten of God” so He was the only one that was…[Read more]

Hi again Gene,Here are a couple of verses that state that He is the ONLY begotten therefore we are not begotten of God.John 1:14-1514 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. NASU1 John 4:9-10By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God…[Read more]

Hi Gene,Where does it say that we are begotten of God? I know that it says that Christ is the only begotten Son…how come it says He is the ONLY begotten son and you say we are begotten sons of God. We are adopted, not begotten as I understand it.Kathi

Quote (Gene @ April 24 2009,23:09)To All………….1 Jo 3:1….Behold, what manner of Love the FATHER has bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of GOD. Therefore the world knows us not because it knew him not> 2.> Beloved, (NOW) are we the Sons of GOD, and it doth not yet appear what we Shall be: but we KNOW that, when he shall…[Read more]

Hi Irene,I'm sorry that you are still suffering more than normal.  Are the doctor's still treating the infection and how about that gout?  Still praying for some relief for you.Love, KathiHere is a sing-a-long for you Irene, I hope this brings some encouragement. Sing loud so I can hear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKUyL0ZUFfM

Quote (thethinker @ April 24 2009,19:38)Quote (kerwin @ April 25 2009,06:14)The Thinker wrote:Quote I have noticed how brothers Nick, Kerwin and gollumandi have ignored Hebrews 1:1-5 which says that Jesus INHERITED the name “begotten” or “firstborn.” I reluctantly include brother Gene too for I love him more than all others.You are mistaken I…[Read more]

Hi Is,He was declared the son “with power.” He always was the son but now He was given authority so now He was given power. That is how I understand that anyway. Different ways of looking at the same thing again. K

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 24 2009,14:25)Hi KathiQuote (Lightenup @ April 24 2009,02:56)He was used to make the one we stand on, He made it go from formless and void to formed and inhabited.  In that sense I believe He made this world.  I don't believe that He was used to make the formless world but He began after the formless world existed. …[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 24 2009,14:46)Lightenup said:Quote Isaac was chosen as the firstborn….Kathi,Yes indeed! Isaac was CHOSEN as the firstborn. The word “chosen” is the key. But  Isaac was NOT the firstborn literally. Though Isaac had always had been the firstborn in the counsel of God it was needed in human history that God come to…[Read more]

Quote (Cindy @ April 24 2009,13:30)To all!  When you add to scripture you get mashed potatoes. We need to remember to stick to Scripture only. How God brought forth His only begotten Son, is not the Question. The question always was and is, did He exist before the world was? For that we have Col. 1:15-16-17Rev. 3:14John 1:1-14I find it even…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ April 24 2009,12:45)thinker………..Inherit, means you did not have it (before), or why would have to inherited it.  It says Jesus inherited a name better (Name) , so the question has to be is (WHEN) he inherited it why brother ,not if he did. Why does scripture say we are Heirs and Joint Heirs (With) Christ Brother?  These are a…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 24 2009,11:42)Lightenup said:Quote Thinker and all,I believe that the Son of God is the only begotten Son of God in the fullest way-He actually was born from GOD and the very first to receive life out of all that has received life of any kind natural or eternal.  Every thing else came into being through Him that has been…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 24 2009,01:17)Quote (Lightenup @ April 24 2009,01:19)Is,I don't agree that the term “was” is ever used in a continual sense like normal imperfect tense words because of what studylight said.  I would like to study their source but they do not state one as far as I can see.Okay, so you have studylight and I have Robertson et…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 23 2009,19:14)Lightenup said:Quote I do not know where you got the idea that I am a Jehovah Witness or go to a JW church.  I have never been inside one.  I attend a large Baptist church of which Kay Arthur and Dr. Spiros Zodhiates are members.  Kay Arthur is regularly on television and traveling around the world with Pr…[Read more]

Gene,He was “made” however a true offspring of GOD would be and it happened before He laid the foundation of the earth. He inherits more than a name. I agree with you in that He receives the inheritance that we are joint heirs with after His ascension to the Father.Take care Gene,Kathi

Quote (thethinker @ April 23 2009,14:37)Lightenup said:Quote Thinker,All things are possible with GOD except He cannot lie.  There is no such teaching in the entire Bible that says Jesus's “sonship” is just a title.  There is no such teaching in the entire Bible that says GOD cannot reproduce.  If you disagree, what is your proof?Hi Kathi,The Bi…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ April 23 2009,15:12)Lightenup said:Quote GOD (the Father) is LIGHTGod (the Son) is the Light from LIGHTKathi,It is ironic that you should say this because the Trinitarian Christmas hymn O Come all ye Faithful says the exact same thing,God of God, Light of light,Lo, He abhors not the virgin's womb.Very God begotten not createdO…[Read more]