Quote (Baker @ Dec. 02 2010,18:46)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,12:04)I do not agree with you Georg.  I do not think that the nature of God is spirit.  The nature of God is much more.  If His nature was spirit then the angels and God would have the same nature.The nature of God is a divine nature (See 2 Pet 1:4 which you put up in your post ab…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 02 2010,18:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,12:12)Georg,you said Quote “””The only begotten God. John 1:18″””  This is not how it is written. Jhn 1:18   No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.  You have to do some more studying because it is tr…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2010,18:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 03 2010,16:04)Pierre,Flesh is a body type in which there are several types, i.e. animal flesh, human flesh, etc.Spirit is a body type in which there are different types, i.e. God, angels.Flesh is only a nature of the vessel, not the nature of the person/thing within the vessel.We have…[Read more]

Thanks Keith, Don Moen is one of my favorite worship leaders.

Adam,I will give you my understanding on the question you asked at the top of this page. The Father and the Son both have a perfect spirit. The Father's spirit unites with the Son's spirit and then that united spirit of the Father and the Son, called the Comforter is a gift from the Father, through the Son and unites with the believer's spirit…[Read more]

Quote And Kathi on everything except the worshipping of Jesus as a “part of God”.Good job Mike, you worded that right! I don't have to get after you, LOL.

Pierre,Flesh is a body type in which there are several types, i.e. animal flesh, human flesh, etc.Spirit is a body type in which there are different types, i.e. God, angels.Flesh is only a nature of the vessel, not the nature of the person/thing within the vessel.We have a human nature within a flesh vessel.God has a divine nature within a spirit…[Read more]

Hi Happyman,I will say a prayer for your family but it has been a few days since you posted that so maybe everyone is better…that influenza….yuck!

Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 01 2010,20:44)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,12:30)Laurel,It is interesting to have those types of conversations with the Mormons and it is good that you are getting more familiar with their doctrines.  I wonder if the Mormons believe that Jesus BECAME a god/God or always was from the get go.   I would assume that they t…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2010,22:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,18:31)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2010,13:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,08:59)I came across this verse to show that spirit is the opposite of flesh in some contexts:Isa 31:33 Now the Egyptians are men and not God, And their horses are flesh and not spirit; So the Lord will…[Read more]

Pierre,What I said does not oppose scripture.Do you think that God and angels have the same nature?If you think that 'spirit' represents nature, then you have to say that God and angels all have the same nature and that is not to be found true.

Laurel,It is interesting to have those types of conversations with the Mormons and it is good that you are getting more familiar with their doctrines. I wonder if the Mormons believe that Jesus BECAME a god/God or always was from the get go. I would assume that they think that they will BECOME a god and do not think of themselves as gods by…[Read more]

Georg,you said:Quote Ps. eternally begotten means, when God beget his son, Jesus, he was to live for ever with God; so were the angels, but as we know, some of them sinned and will not live for ever. Eternally begotten has different meanings even among the early church fathers and you can review this thread to see that. I can certainly agree with…[Read more]

Georg,you said Quote “””The only begotten God. John 1:18″”” This is not how it is written. Jhn 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. You have to do some more studying because it is translated as God in some Bibles and the word, 'son' does not appear in the…[Read more]

I do not agree with you Georg. I do not think that the nature of God is spirit. The nature of God is much more. If His nature was spirit then the angels and God would have the same nature.The nature of God is a divine nature (See 2 Pet 1:4 which you put up in your post above.) 2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 29 2010,20:57)Mark:Quote God never changes. Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. Jesus never changes. Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Hi All, My first thought is that Jesus most definitely HAS changed throughout his life.  He went…[Read more]

Pierre,The Son is the radiance of that glory.  The Son is glorified by being that radiance of the Father's glory.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2010,18:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2010,12:11)Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 01 2010,11:33)Mike, the thread is about 'Do Spirits have bodies', not 'AngelsReally JA?Hebrews 1:14Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?But you think the thread is about “spirits”, not “angels”?…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2010,13:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,08:59)I came across this verse to show that spirit is the opposite of flesh in some contexts:Isa 31:33 Now the Egyptians are men and not God, And their horses are flesh and not spirit; So the Lord will stretch out His hand, And he who helps will stumble And he who is helped…[Read more]

I came across this verse to show that spirit is the opposite of flesh in some contexts:Isa 31:33 Now the Egyptians are men and not God, And their horses are flesh and not spirit; So the Lord will stretch out His hand, And he who helps will stumble And he who is helped will fall, And all of them will come to an end together. NASU