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Lightenup replied to the topic Saturday or sunday worship in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 5 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 07 2010,01:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 07 2010,23:38)Pierre,I do not know why you say such things. There were many writings from those who followed God and His Son. Some of them were put to death after they had written down many things that we can read today. Justin, the Martyr who gave the quote above this post was ma…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Baker @ Dec. 06 2010,19:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 06 2010,12:59)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 03 2010,07:07)Kathi! The nature of God, what is He?
Is He not divine? Is He not immortal?? He is Spirit and always was Spirit. Since He is divine He could never come and die for us. While even tho Jesus was a Spirit being, He was not divine. But now He…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 5 months ago
Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 06 2010,10:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 06 2010,13:13)Hi Ted,Quote Greetings Kathi…… Your question is an age old one that I can only answer with, as of now, Iam not sure to what extent we will share,but ,Iam sure that that threre is only one as the eternal….I would think that there is nothing greater than Love and to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Saturday or sunday worship in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 5 months ago
Pierre,I do not know why you say such things. There were many writings from those who followed God and His Son. Some of them were put to death after they had written down many things that we can read today. Justin, the Martyr who gave the quote above this post was martyred for his faith in God and His Christ and the Spirit. We have many of his…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Saturday or sunday worship in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 5 months ago
Justin, the Martyr:67. After these we constantly remind each other of these things. Those who have more come to the aid of those who lack, and we are constantly together. Over all that we receive we bless the Maker of all things through his Son Jesus Christ and through the Holy Spirit.821821Not merely a general statement, but a reference to the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The early Trinity in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 5 months ago
Athenagoras, the AthenianThe Trinity10. I have sufficiently shown that we are not atheists since we acknowledge one God, who is uncreated, eternal, invisible, impassible, incomprehensible, illimitable. He is grasped only by mind and intelligence, and surrounded by light, beauty, spirit, and indescribable power. By him the universe was created…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 5 months ago
Hi Ted,Quote Greetings Kathi…… Your question is an age old one that I can only answer with, as of now, Iam not sure to what extent we will share,but ,Iam sure that that threre is only one as the eternal….I would think that there is nothing greater than Love and to have a nature that is Love would be the sum total of what you have described…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Baker @ Dec. 03 2010,07:07)Kathi! The nature of God, what is He?
Is He not divine? Is He not immortal?? He is Spirit and always was Spirit. Since He is divine He could never come and die for us. While even tho Jesus was a Spirit being, He was not divine. But now He is… Jehovah God is Love, Love is an essence like Hope. Peace etc. Whe…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 5 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2010,00:57)Kathisorry I have just seen your answer on what God rule and nature is;Hi Georg,Like I said to Pierre, love is a fruit of the divine nature, not the nature itself.SO THE LOVE OF GOD IS A FRUIT OF WHAT???YOU SAY “OF THE DIVINE NATURE” BUT KATHI ,GOD IS LOVE;WERE DO YOU GET ALL THOSE IDEAS???scriptures do not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 5 months ago
That is great Pierre that you can see that 'begotten' is scriptural. You asked if I understand the love of God. I am sure that it is much greater than anything I can imagine.
Lightenup replied to the topic The church of jesus christ of latter-day saints in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 5 months ago
Laurel,You are right that there is only one Elohim. That one Elohim has a Son just like Him and a Holy Spirit that proceeds forth from both of them. All together we see the fullness of Elohim.Some of the most learned believers realize how much more there is to know and humility will be one of their biggest assets. God can teach the teachable…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 5 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 04 2010,01:16)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 04 2010,22:35)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2010,16:45)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 04 2010,09:19)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,23:15)Hi Georg,Quote You should pay more attention to what God says in his word, and less attention to what “man” says; understanding comes from God, not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 5 months ago
Quote (Baker @ Dec. 04 2010,05:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 04 2010,15:27)Georg,Quote When God gives you understanding, you don't need the “other” translations. I know Jesus is “a god”, a mighty one; the “only begotten” of the Father. Is it not true that you have problem with that word, “begotten”? GeorgSometimes we think that God gave us…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 5 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2010,16:45)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 04 2010,09:19)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,23:15)Hi Georg,Quote You should pay more attention to what God says in his word, and less attention to what “man” says; understanding comes from God, not from man.…Also, aren't you a man and you are trying to give me understanding?
…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 5 months ago
Georg,Quote When God gives you understanding, you don't need the “other” translations. I know Jesus is “a god”, a mighty one; the “only begotten” of the Father. Is it not true that you have problem with that word, “begotten”? GeorgSometimes we think that God gave us understanding but really it is only a step in the right direction and we need to…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 5 months ago
Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 02 2010,23:44)Well written kathi.Another thing is the Holy Spirit can be grieved or quenched. How do you see this ?Isnt it sin that grieves or quenches it ?Thanks Karmarie!
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 5 months ago
Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 03 2010,01:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 03 2010,15:05)Adam,I will give you my understanding on the question you asked at the top of this page. The Father and the Son both have a perfect spirit. The Father's spirit unites with the Son's spirit and then that united spirit of the Father and the Son, called the Comforter is a g…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force? 15 years, 5 months ago
Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 03 2010,05:41)Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 03 2010,17:44) Another thing is the Holy Spirit can be grieved or quenched. How do you see this ?Ok before you do, there's no need to answer, I have the answer I should of known and I don't know why I even asked it. It's sin/hardness of heart that seperates us from God and grieves the Holy…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 5 months ago
JA,You consider demons, evil spirits, right? They certainly are not everywhere. Spirits are not omnipresent, where do you get that? The legion of demon spirits possessed the man but not the pigs and then possessed the pigs but not the man because Jesus cast them out of the man and allowed them to enter the herd of pigs. Obviously they were not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Eternally begotten in the forum Exta-biblical Writings 15 years, 5 months ago
Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 02 2010,18:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,12:04)I do not agree with you Georg. I do not think that the nature of God is spirit. The nature of God is much more. If His nature was spirit then the angels and God would have the same nature.The nature of God is a divine nature (See 2 Pet 1:4 which you put up in your po…[Read more]
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