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Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 23 2010,16:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 24 2010,09:01)Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 23 2010,05:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 21 2010,06:52)Hi allI must say that in all the time I have been here I have not seen anyone with the knowledge, and the gracefulness in presenting that knowledge as I see Francis has done in this debate.And…[Read more]

Keith,Even the Athanasian Creed is not saying what Francis is saying.Excerpt from the creed:Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and man; God, of the…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 23 2010,05:49)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 21 2010,06:52)Hi allI must say that in all the time I have been here I have not seen anyone with the knowledge, and the gracefulness in presenting that knowledge as I see Francis has done in this debate.And finally I understand what the Trinity means.Thank you Francis.Quote Francis…[Read more]

Hi Dennison,you said:Quote Did you know Kathi that Jesus was not part of Hebrews 11 examples of Faithful servants of God? Should this indicate something? Right, Jesus wasn't a man of the OT which is who the list included. I'm not sure what your point is here.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 22 2010,21:24)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 23 2010,11:55)3 “Behold, I am going to send My messenger, and he will clear the way before Me. And the Lord, whom you seek, will suddenly come to His temple; and the messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight, behold, He is coming,” says the Lord of hosts.Hi Kathi,I just went…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 22 2010,19:57)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 22 2010,11:04)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 22 2010,03:01)The reason John the Baptiste was not greater then Jesus was because John did not have the full anointing of GOD Spirit placed on HIM as Jesus did, and He was not the one called to the glory of being the first born from among…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 21 2010,23:06)Kathy and Mike Boll,You miss the secound part of Matthew 11:11 since those that are in the kingdom of heaven are also born of woman.  I believe he was speaking of the first birth v the second birth as John did not experience the second birth which is part of the new covenant that was not yet sealed by Jesus'…[Read more]

This topic is where I will add Edj's derogatory comments about me which are totally unprovoked, as I happen upon them. Apparently Edj, you need the 'rules' that say to quote other's with respect to their words and intentions or you don't have to quote others with respect. What about the golden rule? What if I quoted you and took out your…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2010,20:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 20 2010,11:57)I think that it is obvious that Paul understands that there is a Father and a Son, he has clearly made a distinction that there are two and that the Son is not the Father and the Father is not the SonThis part of what you said is clearly evident from scripture, Kathi.…[Read more]

Hi Gene,You call it conjecture so that means that it could mean this or that.  Are you open to the possibility?  You will only see something if you are open to the possibility and with an honest and willing heart ask God to show you.Remember, Jesus was not out to toot his own horn.  How many times did Jesus tell others not to tell anyone of so…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 20 2010,00:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 20 2010,09:05)About the cross, oh my, don't get me going…I get so irritated at those who criticize the cross as a symbol of Christianity…and those that claim that it was a stake and not a cross beam, as if that really matters.  Imagine the logistics of hanging someone on a stake…it…[Read more]

Mike,As you know, I do believe that Jesus has the name 'Jehovah' within Him and appears as 'Jehovah'- Jehovah the Son of Jehovah the Father, in the OT. So, maybe your question is more about me being so intent on 2:13 not referring to the God that is the SOURCE of all good things. I think that it is obvious that Paul understands that there is a…[Read more]

Hi Barley,Who was Jesus before He was born of Mary in your opinion?When did Jesus choose to take on the role of a servant to God, in your understanding?

Mike,So, then if you have no problem with “our great god and savior, Jesus Christ” as speaking of one person then maybe you should be a little irritated that the JW's go to great lengths to pick apart the construction of the verse so they can come up with this conclusion:Therefore, in Tit 2:13, two distinct persons, Jehovah God and Jesus Christ,…[Read more]

Gene and all,Let's have a look at Psalms 104 in the Septuagint for any clues:Psalm 104A Psalm of David.104:1 Bless the Lord, O my soul. O Lord my God, thou art very great; thou hast clothed thyself with praise and honour: 2 who dost robe thyself with light as with a garment; spreading out the heaven as a curtain. 3 Who covers his chambers with…[Read more]

So, if you have no problem with “our great begotten god and savior, Jesus Christ” why go to the extent of challenging the wording of “our great god and savior, Jesus Christ?” Couldn't that be saying the same thing?

Hi Mike,Well, I'm happy to correspond to you too and it has been a while…I've been over in the “Other Writings” section.Are you clear that Jesus is the ONLY begotten god/God and therefore there are no other gods in His category if He is the ONLY BEGOTTEN God/god. All other so called 'gods' were not considered unbegotten certainly, and we know…[Read more]

Mike,I do believe that it is easily proven that the early church recognized Jesus as the God from God…the begotten from the unbegotten, so I would think that would cause  you to rethink your position here.  Consider what Pliny says to the Emperor Trajan.  Pliny was an official of the Emperor and someone that sought out Christians, questioned th…[Read more]

Hi Irene,I'm praying for you. Have you heard about your cat scan results? Hang in there!happyman, I will pray for the bishop.