Quote (Istari @ Jan. 04 2011,23:56)Kathi – NO, the FATHER is NOT CALLED FATHER until he HAS a SON…(Ah, so that's why your were trying to FORCE the issue of the MOTHER – ah, I see, nice try – NO, Kathi, it doesn't work…)Istari,you said:NO, the FATHER is NOT CALLED FATHER until he HAS a SON…I agree but if the Son always existed before being…[Read more]

Karmarie,Absolutely!

Mike,No one else is seated on the “Father's throne” but the Father and the Son, so that would have been a better question from me.Do you know of any verse that one sits on the Father's throne in the temple of the Lord that is not deity?

Karmarie is right…nice and God given. Worthwhile to pursue!Mike's last comment shows that he is trying…and so does Istari's last comment.

Istari,The point is the Father can be called 'Father' before the Son is actually begotten/brought forth.

Thanks Kerwin, I'm sure.

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 04 2011,22:04)Istari,I agree with you that the trinity doctrine seems to indicate a triune God encompassing the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.  That has not set well with me either.In my recent post to you, I didn't mean to indicate that the Son was a 'thought' of the Father's before He was begotten.  I will give y…[Read more]

Istari,Thanks.God is not a man or a woman but is a Father who begat. Your other questions you ask need to be reconsidered now that you have conceded the point.

Istari,My word picture stands true according to:A mother is a woman who has conceived, given birth to, or raised a child in the role of a parent.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MotherLuke 1:41When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was (AX)filled with the Holy Spirit. 42And she cried out with a loud voice and…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ Jan. 04 2011,22:35)No Kathi,The WOMAN is NOT a MOTHER until she 'drops' the Child.The woman is a 'Potential Mother' – said as “To be WITH CHILD”. It is SENTIMENT that makes us say “She is a Mother”…we are not dealing with human SENTIMENT here…The Man is not a Father until the child is born – See, we say “How is the…[Read more]

Irene,Any word about the cat scan?Happyman, I am thankful that the Bishop Seeley had a peaceful passing. That is pretty neat to see an angel ready to take you home and very comforting to those left behind.

Istari,I agree with you that the trinity doctrine seems to indicate a triune God encompassing the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. That has not set well with me either.In my recent post to you, I didn't mean to indicate that the Son was a 'thought' of the Father's before He was begotten. I will give you a word picture…when you see a woman…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ Jan. 04 2011,19:46)So Kathi,The FATHER — IS —- God Almighty, not whatever it is that Keith says – some OverArching Covering Body….that includes Father , son and Holy Spirit.See Kathi, nothing that Trinity says can reconcile the scriptures to itself – because it isn't true.Who says what in Scriptures; Is it Jesus, is it GOD?…[Read more]

Hi Istari,Perhaps the Father that is also God Almighty can bring to Himself a literal Son by a process that is unimaginable to us. We aren't told what the process of begetting a Son before the ages was like.Also, we can consider the Almighty God as being the Creator even before anything was created because nothing changed within Him so that He…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ Jan. 03 2011,14:01)Hi Kathi,Thank you for your exposee on your christmas…It sure sounds good. Maybe I'll move to the States….Yes, Christmas in UK is dull as dishwater…just people over indulging – churches are half empty – half did I say more like three quarter – ha – watch the TV  church…no, they gathered them specifically…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 04 2011,16:59)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 04 2011,16:05)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 04 2011,15:05)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 04 2011,13:16)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 05 2011,03:43)Quote (Istari @ Jan. 04 2011,08:38)Ok, Worshipping Jesus,I apologise for my ADHOMINEM (What is that anyway?)Please can you just answer the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 04 2011,16:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,08:33)Presenting information that is only true to you (even if you are confused) and slander to the one you accuse is not what Christian forums are for, Edj..                        Click Here.And if you click on Edj's link you will see why he should never have slandered me during t…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2011,22:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 04 2011,21:29)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2011,18:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 02 2011,15:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2010,23:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 01 2011,14:15)Hi Mike,Happy New Year to you and your handful at the pier!Thanks, but we're back home safe and sound in Az.  Happy…[Read more]

Presenting information that is only true to you (even if you are confused) and slander to the one you accuse is not what Christian forums are for, Edj.

Edj,You weren't 'discussing' Christian behavior, you were accusing.