Irene,Istari is JA.

Irene,Jesus is not just the High Priest/Mediator, He is also the one on the throne that we bow to. He is on the throne of His Father at the right hand of the Father, seated with Him. We bow to the Son as God the Son, we bow to the Father as God the Father and in that way we recognize the difference.Jesus has to be the High Priest/Mediator to…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 06 2011,11:21)Lightenup……….Why does it say “and the Kingdom will we Given to the Saints of the Most High and they shall poses it forever” then? Our bodies are the temple of the most high God live vicariously in and through all his creation and that include Jesus and Us,  and all that has life in it. It was not…[Read more]

Mike,Jesus is both priest/mediator and king at the same time on the highest throne possible. What does it mean to you to be sitting on the highest throne possible for ever?Jesus as priest is like none other. He is a priest in a temple not made with hands for one thing, and He is not only the High Priest forever but also the King ruler in the…[Read more]

Mike,Those who overcome sit on the Son of God's throne, they are sons of God and they have a part in the kingdom of God and have some authority, but they don't sit on the Father's throne. Does satan sit on any throne forever, or any so-called gods? Is there any higher throne than the one that the Father sits on that Jesus doesn't also sit on?…[Read more]

Istari,You seem to get hung up on that the Father has to be a woman to have a literal son within Him and I think that God can have a literal Son within Him just by being God and does not have to be man or woman…those earthly ideas are limiting you here. So, we disagree. You don't believe in a literal Son of God but a person that earned that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 06 2011,20:20)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,16:01)Mike,No one else is seated on the “Father's throne” but the Father and the Son, so that would have been a better question from me.Do you know of any verse that one sits on the Father's throne in the temple of the Lord that is not deity?Hi Kathi,I forgot about this thread…[Read more]

Please Istari, Don't talk to people like you just did to Irene and recently to Kerwin, and others. Are you trying to get tiles again? Maybe you can go into your wizard closet and come up with a Godly and loving character to play. Please consider your words because we will all be held accountable for our own words.

Istari,I responded to you in a more appropriate thread if you care to have a look:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y280836

A message to Istari, (JA) in response to something he said to me in the “Do Spirits have Bodies” thread.Istari,I never said God was a woman. In fact I said God was neither a man or a woman. That was a false conclusion. My point was to demonstrate that a parent is a parent even while the child is inside the mom. They do not just become a parent…[Read more]

Mark and WJ,I think the little happy banana has his thumb out giving an “I love you” sign language sign. When the thumb is over the third and fourth fingers that are folded, that is the devil's horn sign…as far as I know. So…the happy, little banana is a loving, little, happy banana

Quote (Istari @ Jan. 05 2011,14:22)Some one asked me before to SHAKE HANDS with my fellows (STUDENTS) — NO way – How can I SHAKE Hands with the one misleading himself into delusions.Yet you read the Scriptures and it says “If you try to bring the brother to realisation, three time, and he refuses, do not go to him a fourth time but put him away…[Read more]

I would like to see Theodore on the list also, he has experience with boardroom power tactics…and I would have liked to vote for more than one. I see many that might do well.Maybe there should be a three month trial period for anyone considering the position with the freedom of not continuing and/or maybe a rotation where you agree to moderate…[Read more]

Karmarie,Thanks for your recommendation. I think we both have moderating experience with raising 10 kids between us, lol. We should be able to run a small company after that. I want to be open to what the Lord has for me and I know t8 needs help. I think that the men are more responsive to men keeping them in line. I do better with children…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 05 2011,01:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,10:17)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 04 2011,23:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,09:50)Istari,The point is the Father can be called 'Father' before the Son is actually begotten/brought forth.In other Words,God wasn't always “the father” its not his eteranl identity nor part…[Read more]

Hi Istari,I was reading some of your responses from our conversation last night and one thing that I would like to say is that it is ok to disagree. I have presented the best word picture that I have ever had on the subject. You mentioned that I must not try to explain spiritual things in earthly ways and I also disagree with that. Jesus did it…[Read more]

Goodnight for now Istari. It's been nice discussing with you. Something else to think about…to be the exact representation of God's nature, one would have to have an always existent nature.Catch ya later!

Istari,There is no unbegotten God but Him, the Father. He begat the Son that always existed within Him sometime before creation and the Firstborn created all things in heaven and on earth.John 3:16″For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.17″For God did…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ Jan. 05 2011,00:16)Kathi,no, the SON COULD NOT have ALWAYS EXISTED – why are you saying this….Where do you get any evidence to say a SON EXIST BEFORE BEING CREATED as a SON….this is PURELY ILLOGICAL.Why would a Son exist – then he would not be a SON He would be a GOD…see you turn logic against itself.If the Son ALWAYS EXISTED…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 04 2011,23:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,09:50)Istari,The point is the Father can be called 'Father' before the Son is actually begotten/brought forth.In other Words,God wasn't always “the father” its not his eteranl identity nor part of it until that role was fulfilled.Its like haveing scuba gear to potentialy go…[Read more]