Mike,Do you see that if the word was an/the only begotten God, it doesn't matter 'a' or 'the' because of the word 'only?' I understand what you are saying about GOD and God and I have indicated the difference in that way in the past. I think 'unbegotten God' and 'only begotten God' makes it more clear to the reader who I am talking…

Mike,Deborah was begotten as a baby, a helpless baby, not a mighty one. She became a mighty one. The Son did not become a theos as if He were not a theos beforehand…Deborah became a theos. There is a big difference. The Son was begotten as theos from the get go.He is not just a god…He is the only begotten God. Any theos besides Him and His…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 22 2011,21:26)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 22 2011,20:14)Mike,The word was an only begotten God who was with the unbegotten God in the beginning.  He was not just one of the many mighty ones.Actually, he was.  He is ONE of the many elohim and theos mentioned in scripture.  But he is designated as the only one who was di…[Read more]

Hi Pace,17 verses later, John clarifies that the God that is with the Father is the only begotten God.John 1:18 NASB No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.ooops…edited to remove the 'un' from begotten and add 'only.'

Mike,The word was an only begotten God who was with the unbegotten God in the beginning. He was not just one of the many mighty ones.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 22 2011,20:56)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 22 2011,19:52)Mike,The 'God' of 1:1b is the unbegotten God  Right.  And that God was WITH the Word, right?  So the Word was obviously not that God, right?mikeThat's right Mike.

Mike,The 'God' of 1:1b is the unbegotten God

This is a lot of hoop la for not really making a difference. The word was an only begotten God…the word was the only begotten God…the word was God, the only begotten one. All three ways are my paraphrase written in light of v. 18 to give an understanding why the articles aren't what's important here, imo. John 1:18 is a complimentary verse to…[Read more]

Hello back to you Keith…nice to see you!Blessings, Kathi

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 21 2011,18:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 20 2011,22:56)My conclusion is that it may be grammatically ok to consider an 'a' and a small 'g,' but in light of the rest of the book and how John writes, contextually it would be incorrect.Hi Kathi,Thanks for your input.  I'm aching to discuss the CONTEXTUAL possibilities, and blow…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 21 2011,02:09)Hi Kathi!!!I MIss you!!! i was thinking about you the other day and how we needed you back and guess what here you are!!!Miss you bunch lady!Welcome backHi Dennison,It's is nice to be missed…thank you for thinkin' me back here Bless ya, Kathi

Hi Mike,It is good to discuss scripture with you again…I missed you too!You asked my opinion on whether or not it was grammatically possible for John 1:1c to say 'a god.' Well, my UN-expert opinion is that whether you translate it with an 'a' or a 'the' or a small 'g' or capital 'G' can reflect a bias. I don't think that the NWT is consistent…[Read more]

Hi guys!I just wanted to point out that if the word was 'a' God/god, John, merely 17 verses later, gives us the article 'the' when he writes that Jesus is THE only begotten God/god. Just read John 1:1 with the understanding that the word was THE only begotten God/god or A only begotten God/god. It doesn't matter if it is 'the' or 'a' since it…[Read more]

Karmarie,I don't care to debate the point either God bless you in your pursuit of truth.To all,I may start shopping around for another site where people don't get away with what they do here (no names). Does anyone know of a good Christian site that doesn't put up with abusive posts or distorting people's quotes, etc? Somewhere that rules mean…[Read more]

Hi Karmarie,What do you think would happen to JA on the other forum where you spend time? Didn't you mention that he would be long gone? I thought that is what you said…if not, sorry…maybe I misunderstood. If that is what you said, why would you think he would be long gone?Peace!

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,21:03)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 05 2011,01:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,10:17)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 04 2011,23:52)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 05 2011,09:50)Istari,The point is the Father can be called 'Father' before the Son is actually begotten/brought forth.In other Words,God wasn't always “the father”…[Read more]

Pierre,Put it this way…I believe that we are to believe in the Father and the Son, follow them, seek them, fellowship with them, honor and glorify them. Do you have a problem with that?

Irene,He told us in a clever way.Go to this page: https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=140scroll down to the 4th post down and LEFT click on the “Hi smimmer” link then observe the name of the one who posted the comment.It's deceitful but clever!

I know Pierre, I'm not sure why you commented like that.

Quote (Baker @ Jan. 07 2011,07:47)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 07 2011,16:17)Irene,Jesus is not just the High Priest/Mediator, He is also the one on the throne that we bow to.  He is on the throne of His Father at the right hand of the Father, seated with Him.  We bow to the Son as God the Son, we bow to the Father as God the Father and in that way w…[Read more]