The Messiah is part of the holy spirit.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the SPIRIT OF TRUTH, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto…[Read more]

Me: Christ is called Immanuel because God was truly expressed fully in the Messiah. God is not with man until Revelation 21:3. He was fully expressed from heaven in the Messiah when he was on earth. The Messiah then became glorified together with his father (John 17:3 below) . Then the Messiah came to earth again in Revelation…[Read more]

Eccl 3: 17 I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work. 18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. 19 For that which befalleth the sons of…[Read more]

There are two Adams, the one in Genesis and the one in 1 Corinthians 15:45

1 Cor 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam (Christ) was made a quickening spirit.

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who…[Read more]

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Exactly!!!

Colossians 2:8...according to Christ. 9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, 10 and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;

Me: The father in heaven expressed himself fully in the spirit mind Christ here on earth.

John 14:11  Believe me that I am in…[Read more]

You: 1 Cor 15:45……the first “man Adam” was made (by God) a living soul, the last Adam “was made “by” a quickening spirit

Me:

https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/15-45.htm.

All these translations have “the last Adam was made into a life given spirit” or something to that effect, not made by a life given spirit which is a lot of BS.

2 Co…[Read more]

After Adam’s sin, man could not become the sons of the new Adam through the flesh but through th e soul of Christ.

In Genesis 6, the sons of Gods (angels) left their present dwelling (bodies) or angelic bodies and put on bodies of flesh. They then copulated with the human females who bore giants in physical and mental stature. The g…[Read more]

Matt 17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Me: The seed here is the spiritual seed or of the soul. This is the same seed…[Read more]

Me: After his resurrection and glorification, he was fully the Son of God and so made so much greater than the angels,

Psalms 8:5…and hast crowned him with glory and honour

Jesus Became The Only Begotten Son of God
~AT THE RESURRECTION~
http://www.bibleanswerstand.org/begotten.htm

Hebrews 1:4 BEING MADE SO MUCH B…[Read more]

Physical seed of Abraham

Both Mary and her husband Joseph had descended from David.
https://www.conformingtojesus.com/charts-maps/en/genealogy_of_jesus_chart.htm

Me: But Jesus descended by way of Solomon through Mary.

WHAT IS THE CURSE OF KING JECONIAH?
Does Jeconiah’s curse disqualify Jesus as…[Read more]

Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh

Me: The Messiah was not made under the law with weak flesh, but was the new Adam of the new covenant with slightly different human flesh.

Romans 5:12…[Read more]

Good post for those with eyes to see.

1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he (me: the…[Read more]

You do not understand even plain English more less the scriptures.  Nobody said that they want to kick you off.  I said you can voluntarily leave anytime because no one but Jodi agrees with you and your nut case doctrines that are not biblical at all.  You have not come close to convincing anyone here in ten years and show your di…[Read more]

I am talking about apples and you are talking about oranges.  What you just posted has nothing to do with what I had just posted.  The truth is a mystery to those that misapply scripture as you do. I just showed you the scriptures.  Instead of addressing them, you go on a tangent and talk about something else that is irrelevant to the di…[Read more]

1 Cor 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a MYSTERY, even the hidden wisdom, which God…[Read more]

1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see…[Read more]

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the…[Read more]

1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus (Me: savior) Christ (me: anointed) is come in ___ flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in___flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now…[Read more]

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Strong’s Concordance:

Word or Logos
3056 lógos (from 3004 /légō, “speaking to a conclusion”) – a word, being the expression of a thought; a saying. 3056 /lógos (“word”) is preeminently used of Christ (Jn 1:1), expressing the thoughts of the Father…[Read more]

God expresses himself fully as the spirit mind of the Messiah in the Messiah.

John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Me: Our Father who is in heaven expressed his full self in his son that was here on earth.

World English Bible
John 1:18 No one has seen…[Read more]

You just went berserk again. You have just tried to smother the truth with a whole bunch of words instead of getting to the point. You used your  shot gun approach hoping that some things would somehow stick and maybe gel. You went one thousand miles away from what we were talking about.

I had asked a simple question that Gene and you…[Read more]

I and others have dwelt and shown you and Jodi your false interpretations of these many times.  You just don’t see them as if they had never existed and we have never asked.  It is amazing that you keep coming back with the same nonsense.  So, you answer these below which I have asked Jodi to answer which she and you just have:

1. The se…

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You: Paul tells that tells this, “what?, know you not that “your body” is the temple (body reserved in heaven)  of the Holy Ghost which is “in” you, which you have of God, and you are not  your own., for you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God “in” your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.”

1 Cor 15;37 And…[Read more]

You: when Jesus said this, “tell them I am going to my father and your father, my God and your God,” he was not lying.

Me: 

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

John 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.…[Read more]

You:

John 17:3 “That they might know “you” the “only” true God, and Jesus Christ who you have sent”. Jesus knew he wasn’t that “true God”

Me:

John 14:7 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

The only true God was expressed in the Messiah, and was in him.

John 13:3 Jes…[Read more]

We went through this before.  Just because we do not subscribe to your false doctrine does not mean we are not of the truth.  I show you all the scriptures.  You and Jodi just do not understand them because you are not of the spirit of God but of another spiirit.  You fail to separate the man in the Messiah from God in the Messiah.  You…[Read more]

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a SON is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting FATHER, The Prince of Peace.

Me: Jodi, explain this passage.

Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle…[Read more]

You: That which Jesus said was mine, was that which God gave to Jesus, the Spirit of Truth, IT IS PASSED ALONG, as it is something our God SHARES. God shared it to Jesus, Jesus gave it to an angel to give it to John who then shared it with the world by writing it down. All those WHO RECEIVE it have God in them and have the Spirit of…[Read more]

You come across like you are an authority on the word of God. In my opinion, you are a lot of smoke but no fire–a modern day Jezebel.   I and others have explained things to you many times but in vain. It is easy to understand if you have eyes to see, which you obviously don’t.

You: WHAT? Come again? The Holy Spirit and his human mi…[Read more]

New American Standard Bible
Col 1:18 He is THE image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

https://biblehub.com/interlinear/colossians/1-15.htm

Me: Christ is the expressed image of the invisible God, firstly spiritually and then to form.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the…[Read more]

Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

Me: That should end it right here.  The Messiah is the Word of God in God and is his expression.

Me: The Word of God is his spirit or himself expressed in Christ.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his…[Read more]

Luke 24:36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. 37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. 38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is…[Read more]

Me: The Messiah would transform into a spirit—the holy spirit with the human heart of man in it.

You: This is a perfect example of me losing you.

Me:

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was n…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

Me: I am only going to respond to what I have not discussed with you before unless I feel I can put new light on the “son of man”,

You: 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer wit…[Read more]

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Me: So we die physically because of sin because we sin because the dead nature of a human personal relationship with God was passed on by Adam.
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John 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly…[Read more]

Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was BORN AFTER THE SPIRIT, even so it is now.

Me: So how was Isaac born of the spirit when there was no Son of God yet.

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born…[Read more]

Heb 5:5 (NASB) So also Christ did not glorify Himself so as to become a high priest, but He who said to Him,
“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten (me: born) You”;

Me: Now the Father had been talking to Christ always begotten and born and having spent thirty plus years here on earth.

Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the chu…[Read more]

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only (me:: monogenous—unique or one of a kind) Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Heb 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure o…[Read more]

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

Me: The Word and God are one. The expression of God (the Word) and God are one.

Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word,…[Read more]

Matt 6:9 … “Our Father which art in heaven”…

Me: Most of the book of revelation deals with the events that lead up to our heavenly Father being with men in Rev 21. Prior to that, God’s mind was projected into the Messiah from heaven.

Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, an…[Read more]

The Father is here on earth when there will be a new heaven and earth, , not any sooner

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son…25 Son of God…27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

Me: The son of God is the son of man. All jud…[Read more]