https://heavennet.net/members/lamontre/activity/ Activity feed for lamontre. Wed, 22 Apr 2026 21:29:25 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 df3a8d8859e47c9395a275d30bb45741 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-prophet-of-god/page/2/#post-55556 Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:18:22 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2007,17:41)Hi Tim2, So God was not equal with God? I do not understand.Where is your scriptural support that tells us Jesus is NOT God?I mean, I can show you where there were those who believed he was saying he was God, can you show me, in any instance, where he denied it?? And don't even start quoting “Son of God”…[Read more]

]]> 1240c4adce02a9206301c420fcbfc49b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/daniel-927/#post-55555 Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:45:21 +1200 Well, I did ask you to clarify, and that was the verse you focussed on. I see now you have a “replacement” axe to grind? I share your lack of admiration for the NIV, but the KJV makes the same reference, just not in the exact same phrasing;Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall…[Read more]

]]> 2957d169c1031f32b04552e6eccbab95 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/has-anyone-seen-god-or-not/page/2/#post-55552 Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:01:19 +1200 Quote (Not3in1 @ June 14 2007,12:49)And there is no escaping that you hold your interpretations and I have mine. Who is right? You? Of course.Thank you….I agree.

]]> 0bf20e3591d4303804686e083ce18297 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/26/#post-55488 Thu, 14 Jun 2007 01:58:36 +1200 Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 14 2007,13:05)lamontre >.. I would like to address this issue of miracles with you ,first where did Jesus ever say he did the miracles himself you won't find it it the scriptures, but he said he could do nothing of himself but it was the Father who was in him who does the work not him and a good example of this point…[Read more]

]]> 501f85147a0681ffd430174ae0056d81 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/26/#post-55486 Thu, 14 Jun 2007 01:53:38 +1200 Quote In other words, you believe that “perfect obedience” explains any aspect of Jesus' earthly mission that seem less than God-like.Actually, there is nothing in Jesus earthly mission that is “less than God-like”. That is just a characterization on your part, and is becomes no more than a straw-man.Quote It's an interesting point of view, but it…[Read more]

]]> 0fd9e3fe5fcf5a497380c9d5076f4f5b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/did-jesus-really-die-for-all/page/4/#post-55483 Thu, 14 Jun 2007 01:39:01 +1200 Quote This post is in response to the first post on predestination.Did Jesus die for all? If He did not, then maybe John 3:16 should read “For God so loved some of the people in the world” It is exclusive none-the-less, your only quoting the part that supports your assertion.Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so…[Read more]

]]> 8d14ac1b2986992ad909fc97988340bb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/has-anyone-seen-god-or-not/page/2/#post-55476 Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:28:14 +1200 Quote (Not3in1 @ June 14 2007,09:51)Quote (lamontre @ June 14 2007,07:56)Thank you for your encouraging words WJ.Joh 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. Joh 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Joh 5:23 That all men should honor…[Read more]

]]> f20d3c659773c0b0eadf8fb8ba7dabe3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/has-anyone-seen-god-or-not/page/2/#post-55475 Thu, 14 Jun 2007 00:08:56 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 14 2007,08:10)Hi LAM, Indeed all the prophets of God should have been honoured for their roles as vessels for God, but they, along with the Son of God, were murdered because men hate our God.Lk 20″ 9Then began he to speak to the people this parable; A certain man planted a vineyard, and let it forth to husbandmen, and…[Read more]

]]> 7ad42f2600e1a663f46a66028c764373 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/has-anyone-seen-god-or-not/#post-55460 Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:56:28 +1200 Thank you for your encouraging words WJ.Joh 5:21  For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. Joh 5:22  For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Joh 5:23  That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honoreth not the Son ho…[Read more]

]]> ac26342f3684e97279d57d0f5dd1fbf9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/election/#post-55352 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:45:58 +1200 Election is best defined here (I believe someone already quoted it);1Pe 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. As regards Israel……Rom 9:11 (For the children being not yet born,…[Read more]

]]> 4529cc45ad5c850665b4ac9d2baba5ce http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/26/#post-55350 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:29:42 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2007,15:14)Hi LAM, In Whose strength? His own?Zech4″ 6Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.”Perfect obedience would entail complete reliance…that's the point.But perfect obedience as God…[Read more]

]]> 00b110034aa646020fe7ae3a97f1df8f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/26/#post-55348 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:23:30 +1200 Quote (Not3in1 @ June 12 2007,13:33)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 12 2007,09:39)Agreed.He was born under law, but somehow that law did not apply to him – he was above the law.He COULD have been above the law, as the author of it. Yet He chose perfect obedience to the Father for a great cause. Quote He spoke a new relationship to God that even seemed…[Read more]

]]> 34f120705d9bb8192a66dec20d381c9c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/26/#post-55344 Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:06:02 +1200 Quote (WhatIsTrue @ June 12 2007,10:51)I can see that this discussion is quickly becoming a lesson in bad communication. Let's cut through all the smoke screens by simply answering the questions that were asked of us – nothing more nothing less. I will start by answering the questions in your latest post.Well Ok, but mischaracterizing my posts…[Read more]

]]> bcfeb1801ea514f58fcee61c96799d48 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/25/#post-55302 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:06:09 +1200 Quote (Not3in1 @ June 12 2007,09:39)Quote (lamontre @ June 12 2007,08:27)And if God has a son He is  in nature?Each after his own kind, is I believe God's law.LM,Regarding “each after his own kind” -God/God = God (not possible because there is only One God)Mary/God = Divine ManFully both/no mix/fake conception/non scriptural = incarnation…..God…[Read more]

]]> ebf56c78fb096947d2521cc281d8c13a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/25/#post-55301 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:04:47 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 12 2007,08:53)HiLAM, So your God can die? Christ died. But he is the Son of God.Nice, I answered that silly objection above. Got anything scriptural to add to the discussion?

]]> e8044b3a0a6f9c68a577b7cee2c8372e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/25/#post-55289 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 20:27:08 +1200 Ahhh, finally….I will skip the irrelevent introduction and get right to the meat of the discussion;Quote (WhatIsTrue @ June 12 2007,05:32)First, I note that this response (Phil 2:5-8) does not specifically address the question that I asked.Of course it does. You just don't like what it says.Quote There's no point in quoting the question if your…[Read more]

]]> 547aabbebad9d76eddbb10cd1231a611 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/daniel-927/#post-55284 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:06:41 +1200 I think 942767 is on to something. And the NIV makes it much clearer IMO;Daniel 9:26-27 (New International Version)New International Version (NIV)Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society26 After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the…[Read more]

]]> 8e93b9f6c664cddf2f44dfcedc0fd144 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-son-of-god/page/35/#post-55240 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:35:45 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,15:09)Hi LAM,You said”I reject only your interpretation.” I quoted the verse but you assumed the interpretation.The Son is the God given source of Life for men and that Spirit Life is found in Him.He submitted fully and was given all grace to be an overcomer. That grace is yet available to all in him.You and I and…[Read more]

]]> c3a30e091c2d38ce5e304a7c84d1be76 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/mercy/#post-55239 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 03:29:18 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,14:47)Hi, Those who would make salvation a black and white affair do not know our God. We have a gospel to preach and it is the way of Jesus but God is not as harsh as men would paint Him. God is love and He loves to show mercy.Mercy even triumphs over judgement. The world looks at sin but God knows we are all…[Read more]

]]> e4af81b6a0cd13b6c866e50d5ceace42 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-son-of-god/page/35/#post-55236 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:50:28 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,11:26)Hi LAM,This the humble path chosen by the glorious monogenes son when he partook of flesh that we might live.If he did not completely inherit and overcome our fallen state then what hope to we have? Do you reject this verse or can you grasp it as part of the whole wisdom of God too?I reject only your…[Read more]

]]> d23bc3bff19182b3d6fd53d528adff68 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-has-no-spiritual-free-will/page/4/#post-55234 Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:40:12 +1200 Quote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2007,14:21)Quote (lamontre @ June 11 2007,10:32)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2007,10:26)Quote (lamontre @ June 11 2007,09:10)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2007,09:01)Does this mean because I strive to please God and my sister does not – that I have a greater gift of faith than she? HmmmmYou can't be saved wrong. You either are, or…[Read more]

]]> 65b27c50468f529124d883b5b9155a89 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-son-of-god/page/35/#post-55219 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 23:03:02 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,10:59)Quote (lamontre @ June 11 2007,10:50)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,09:36)Christ is inner and outer man as we are.Your missing something. Jesus humanity was not of the seed of Adam. It was of the seed of a woman. The fallen seed of Adam was not his.Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God…[Read more]

]]> 905253fb86861139e6222a2ae32daf7b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-has-no-spiritual-free-will/page/4/#post-55217 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:59:41 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,10:33)Hi Lam, I agree.But faith can be effective even through works.Tha mercy of God is incomprehensibly large knowing we are but flesh.God shows mercy beyond our response, and beyond the way of Christ, to those who show mercy to those in His Son.Mark 9:41For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my…[Read more]

]]> b014201e1cf0f9b82b5884246be38f00 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-son-of-god/page/34/#post-55213 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:50:31 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,09:36)Christ is inner and outer man as we are.Your missing something. Jesus humanity was not of the seed of Adam. It was of the seed of a woman. The fallen seed of Adam was not his.Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, Gal 4:5 To redeem…[Read more]

]]> bd86e7bb432d4305cde2459d2d67971e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-son-of-god/page/34/#post-55207 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:42:43 +1200 Quote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2007,10:33)Quote (lamontre @ June 11 2007,09:16)Kind of obvious really.LM, you crack me up. Stick around…..nothing is “obvious.”Not even that God is One.Not even that we should love one another.Stick around, brother and see.2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so…[Read more]

]]> 68bc89314dd6c7c2769921855a7c3abe http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/24/#post-55204 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:36:42 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,09:32)Hi LAM, Is not understanding and knowledge also grace or just the fruit of our works?Oh yes, but we are still commanded to be instructed in right doctrine. I don't even believe Paul was simply suddenly knowedgeable. He too studied scripture. Of course, without the new birth, one cannot see, and right…[Read more]

]]> 87dfb44bd36a8f5e17e6d750e3b2ce62 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-has-no-spiritual-free-will/page/4/#post-55200 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:32:02 +1200 Quote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2007,10:26)Quote (lamontre @ June 11 2007,09:10)Quote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2007,09:01)Does this mean because I strive to please God and my sister does not – that I have a greater gift of faith than she? HmmmmYou can't be saved wrong. You either are, or you aren't. There is no inbetween condition.There is a life that pleases…[Read more]

]]> ce83acff73993685f53fd5693661f45a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-has-no-spiritual-free-will/page/4/#post-55198 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:27:04 +1200 Quote (942767 @ June 11 2007,09:44)Quote (lamontre @ June 11 2007,08:42)Quote (942767 @ June 11 2007,01:41)Quote Hi LAM: I believe that the answer to this is that he had Faith in God's Word.1Jo 5:4For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. God BlessFaith is a gift.…[Read more]

]]> b4ff2a13d0432602bdde0bbfaeb26364 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-has-no-spiritual-free-will/page/4/#post-55196 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:25:03 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,09:30)Hi LAM, Indeed a man must be born again. But it takes faith in response to the seed of the Word in good soil, to respond and come to Jesus.To be born again?Do you have scripture to support that?

]]> 1bae56853ea62e6907a4b6e1ab2ff902 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-has-no-spiritual-free-will/page/4/#post-55186 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:22:45 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,09:12)Hi LAM, God gives a little faith to all men so that they might turn to Him Who reveals Himself through the wonders of creation. However faith is also a gift of the Spirit of God to the sons of God unto the moving of mountains.I think Romans 1 makes clear that the general revelation contained in the creation…[Read more]

]]> 75b271ab84605044f415e99803757c89 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/24/#post-55185 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:17:54 +1200 Quote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2007,09:07)Quote (lamontre @ June 11 2007,08:51)I suggest more study for many here.And I suggest more humility for some.It does not require humility to recognize, and overcome error; just study.

]]> 906119194b2ca364f0ca70349569229e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-son-of-god/page/34/#post-55184 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:16:18 +1200 Quote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2007,09:03)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,08:45)Hi not3, So the egg of Mary and the seed of God does not lead to a normal conception?Indeed it does!However, if the Son was already preexistent, as you say, and then came down to be conceived in Mary….we have something different than the the “seed” of God going in to…[Read more]

]]> fbc3508240d646c61366979ae41d3338 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-has-no-spiritual-free-will/page/3/#post-55182 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:10:46 +1200 Quote (Not3in1 @ June 11 2007,09:01)Does this mean because I strive to please God and my sister does not – that I have a greater gift of faith than she? HmmmmYou can't be saved wrong. You either are, or you aren't. There is no inbetween condition.

]]> 33f28df46dc669019b156af8701242ab http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-has-no-spiritual-free-will/page/3/#post-55181 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:09:01 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 11 2007,08:49)Hi Lam,All is grace but Rom 1 18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20For the invisible things of him from the…[Read more]

]]> be0be6ef90520ae095b5d6a1474442f0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/daniel-927/#post-55178 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:04:48 +1200 Quote (IM4Truth @ June 10 2007,21:23)Good morning LamontreMy point is; Dan. 9:27 is not about Antichrist, it's all about Jesus Christ.Ah, I see.I really have no reasoned response at the moment. I'll get back to ya.

]]> a22aa16075ec243f2b14a2f593c32888 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/24/#post-55171 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:51:26 +1200 Quote (Not3in1 @ June 10 2007,18:44)I'm sorry, the Philippians passage is not a pat-answer for every posed question here in the OP.Everything that is stated regarding Jesus from the original poster IS TRUE. The scripture ref's given do not lie. You may not like what they are saying, but they DO say that Jesus didn't have certain knowledge, for…[Read more]

]]> 4f20c014379bd569c33ccec726049fe6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/24/#post-55167 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:44:47 +1200 It appears everyone is either ignoring my points, or have no answers for them??

]]> a4c327502ccecd83d015224f8f616497 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/24/#post-55166 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:43:28 +1200 Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 10 2007,18:56)Hi lamontre. Welcome to heaven.netThanks, happy to be here.

]]> 59aeafe508db049fbbc73b4bde29636e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-has-no-spiritual-free-will/page/3/#post-55165 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:42:08 +1200 Quote (942767 @ June 11 2007,01:41)Quote Hi LAM: I believe that the answer to this is that he had Faith in God's Word.1Jo 5:4For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. God BlessFaith is a gift. Unbelievers do not have biblical faith, only believers do.Eph 2:8 For by…[Read more]

]]> 7c5eee99abd87e914c9939c586884d25 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-has-no-spiritual-free-will/page/3/#post-55164 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:37:59 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 10 2007,19:30)Quote Hi LAM, Do you believe the Spirit of God in Christ could not know the future and the choices men make before they have made them and do you think this foreknowledge denies them that choice?Well of course he knows the future and the choices men will make. And we do indeed make choices of our own…[Read more]

]]> 09564a062a3e43cdebc6da37389ed82e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-has-no-spiritual-free-will/page/3/#post-55162 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:25:29 +1200 Quote To me, this speaks of the foundations we build to receive God's Word in our lives.For instance, my sister lives her life for herself and whatever pleasures she can find. She says she loves God, but she has no time for him, nor does she seek him out. Consequently, she has received the Word, but has fallen away due to worldly ambitions.I…[Read more]

]]> 21deb59d057f0d5958a0c35299f5035a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/23/#post-55128 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 06:34:02 +1200 The “O”ppening “P”ost…….

]]> 5dccbd9df85af65f13c5bca539423bc3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-has-no-spiritual-free-will/page/3/#post-55125 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 06:22:41 +1200 Mar 14:18 And as they sat and did eat, Jesus said, Verily I say unto you, One of you which eateth with me shall betray me. Mar 14:19 And they began to be sorrowful, and to say unto him one by one, Is it I? and another said, Is it I? Mat 26:21 And as they did eat, he said, Verily I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me. Mat 26:22 And…[Read more]

]]> 952db128f173cd08908d00738b3a86d9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/23/#post-55123 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 06:11:54 +1200 Um, that's from the OP……

]]> 28c9cc1b61ed4dfc35325356c61de0db http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/man-has-no-spiritual-free-will/page/2/#post-55121 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:59:39 +1200 This entire debate is the result of extremism on both sides of the isle. Let me see if I can interject some balance?Joh 3:27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven. Think about that statement….surely, you can recieve Gods word….but only if it is given to you to do so.Look at Adam and Eve. They…[Read more]

]]> 43407d0a6ffd38c879e13bebd762a687 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jehovahs-witnesses/page/36/#post-55120 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:41:28 +1200 Quote Hence, the context of Revelation 7:4 and related statements found elsewhere in the Bible bear out that the number 144,000 is to be taken literally. It refers to those who will rule in heaven with Christ over a paradise earth, which will be filled with a large and undetermined number of happy people who worship Jehovah God.—Psalm 37:29.To r…[Read more]

]]> 2918c902ef026497f7f94f68cae5b9f6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/daniel-927/#post-55117 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:35:22 +1200 Can you, kind of, summarize your point? This is all over the place. I don't exactly know where to begin to respond.

]]> a09854a95e0ae8ea593acabad38ec1f4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/fully-god-fully-man/page/23/#post-55116 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:23:47 +1200 Quote Can one be fully God, or fully have the nature of God, and yet be ignorant, (Mark 13:32)?Mar 13:32 But of that day or that hour knoweth no one, not even the angels in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Ignorant? I think you are a very arrogant poster, first of all, which is strike one against your particular Jesus. Strike 2:Phi 2:5…[Read more]

]]> 000601f43e94b0febf47e63c2264d8c7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-24-elders-of-revelation/page/2/#post-55112 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 04:36:07 +1200 Thanks. I guess they are “elders”. I am sure that John was just as confused, but he simply labeled them as was revealed. All I know is that they aren't redeemed men, and they don't represent the church.

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