https://heavennet.net/members/karmarie/activity/ Activity feed for karmarie. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 80409e33d1108869ddd87b02ad43d4bf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/atheism/page/50/#post-293688 Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:42:58 +1200 Quote (journey42 @ April 21 2012,00:59)Quote (Stu @ April 20 2012,11:10)Quote (journey42 @ April 20 2012,01:56)Fine.  But what do you call an imaginary friend to a 10 year old that appears to you, then disappears?  What do you call an imaginary friend to a 13 year old that shakes your bed so hard at night, you swore someone was there pushing i…[Read more]

]]> 7b99dc87f35d52a93a01cee05a4112dd http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/preexistence-part-2/page/53/#post-247321 Mon, 30 May 2011 02:33:05 +1200 Hi all.Just been going back on some old posts of mine from a year ago, and was wondering anyone's views on this, thanks!karmariePosted: June 02 2010,22:15(Conversation with Bodhitharta),In hermas it seems the son of God has always existed, he was the one through whom all things were created. He is the Holy Spirit.Jesus was a man who the Son (Holy…[Read more]

]]> b39f3e6d0cc2b68a17485a01374ff937 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-spirit-of-antichrist/page/5/#post-244936 Sun, 01 May 2011 02:46:21 +1200 Gene, my post above is off topic, no need to reply.Peace and love to you and yours too Gene. Later.

]]> 4b38bd7ff3a05cc6f7a9d46ef1f37c6a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/for-those-of-you-who-believe-some-will-be-on-earth/page/3/#post-251353 Sun, 01 May 2011 02:44:03 +1200 Ok Jay, i'll talk to you in private about this… (it's shamefull for a woman to chatter in an assembly)!!

]]> 396de53b56c95726cf454ab0e3ea3603 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/for-those-of-you-who-believe-some-will-be-on-earth/page/3/#post-251352 Sun, 01 May 2011 00:09:22 +1200 TK and Terrarica you are right as the bible says there is neither Jew nor Greek (Gentile). But think; these 144'000 are sealed, it has to do with the tribulation, but doesn't nessesarilly seperate them in the end when the great crowd stand before the throne of God does it (?)And Istari good post in regards to the chronological order of Rev and…[Read more]

]]> 013e722c3acfd3677ea768592811562d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/christians-and-muslims-believe-the-same-thing/page/20/#post-244930 Sat, 30 Apr 2011 23:32:51 +1200 Quote (bodhitharta @ April 30 2011,11:32)I am not taking anything away from Jesus wouldm't being a sinless servant make for a perfect Servant?Bod, Jesus said to follow him, not someone else. A woman should follow her husband if he is a believer. But a man should follow Christ only who is the head. And God is the head of Christ.

]]> 48ef0f6d1aac367531c617fee9162dcd http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/christians-and-muslims-believe-the-same-thing/page/20/#post-244929 Sat, 30 Apr 2011 23:27:52 +1200 Quote (Stu @ April 30 2011,01:21)karmarieYou appear to have omitted the part about the unfortunate family values of Jesus.StuartStuart, what were those?

]]> 82d55ed4fee4be39712d23ac2bb74d3a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-spirit-of-antichrist/page/5/#post-244891 Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:56:49 +1200 Gene,I know what your saying.This is sort of off topic but,“2 Thessalonians 2:7…”For the mystery of lawlessness already works. Only there is one who restrains now, until he is taken out of the way.”It got me thinking to other things (the restrainer) which many believe to be the Holy Spirit and how in the last days it will be either diminished or…[Read more]

]]> 9a9edfb4948efd8424cbedef282d4e12 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/for-those-of-you-who-believe-some-will-be-on-earth/page/3/#post-251347 Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:02:48 +1200 And the 144'000 on earth are Jews.The Gentiles are the great multitude in Heaven…(that's what it seems to me?)

]]> be234af4a03066262fc5f638a601b0f3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/for-those-of-you-who-believe-some-will-be-on-earth/page/3/#post-251346 Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:01:25 +1200 Rev 7:9After these things I saw, and lo, a great multitude, which to number no one was able, out of all nations, and tribes, and peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne, and before the Lamb, arrayed in white robes, and palms in their handsRevelation 14:1-5I saw, and behold, the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him a number, one…[Read more]

]]> 5a81671fcdc21857e3403a9f7cab0b58 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/for-those-of-you-who-believe-some-will-be-on-earth/page/3/#post-251345 Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:57:19 +1200 JA, why be tested again? The judgment is final. And if you believe in a thousand year millenium, what is the point in that? Only for satan to twice be let lose? It doesn't make sense to what scripture says. What about Matthew 25… And 2nd Peter 3?*Edited, put wrong chapter.

]]> 7847bbba13d2dfe9e6c40a7ee19d6027 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/for-those-of-you-who-believe-some-will-be-on-earth/page/2/#post-251340 Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:28:10 +1200 The 144,000 are Jews (which is what it say's) and there is a multitude in Heaven (which no one was able to number (thats not 144'000) and these ones in Heaven are from every nation, and tribe, and people, and tongue (this is a different group), and they are standing before the throne, and before the Lamb, in Heaven.The 144'000 are first mentioned…[Read more]

]]> 6888170fdedf6c19e2026e8c6687a647 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/for-those-of-you-who-believe-some-will-be-on-earth/page/2/#post-251339 Sat, 30 Apr 2011 05:51:50 +1200 JA/Istari (which one do you prefer?)How do you know that the 144,000 aren't the ones who are given the Earth, and the rest aren't all in Heaven?There is a multitude which no Man can count seen in Heaven.*Rev 7:9(YLT)After these things I saw, and lo, a great multitude, which to number no one was able, out of all nations, and tribes, and peoples,…[Read more]

]]> 11775f9cae14c35035628a14c49cfc8b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-spirit-of-antichrist/page/5/#post-244876 Sat, 30 Apr 2011 05:02:19 +1200 Wow Gene that is really interesting. Glad to hear your ok too. I hadn't seen you posting as much. The forum has got really quiet these days. But OK… I remember when I was driven to read the bible… something just didn't seem right to me in what I was hearing people say. I was like “what about the Father?” “what about God?” I hear so much about…[Read more]

]]> 11422a0f93c4c51b91083554d289c2cf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-spirit-of-antichrist/page/4/#post-244860 Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:36:28 +1200 Irene, I think this is a really important topic that should be studied.I would like to get hold of that book you speak about, might look in the Library.I'm not sure of the book of Revelations because it's really hard to understand and piece it all together. But the word's of Paul of the Man of sin and the falling away is what I would like to look…[Read more]

]]> 263b440cd01ab3b9c2b735c9614c82e8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-hypostatic-union/page/3/#post-244857 Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:29:09 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 30 2011,04:46)Quote (karmarie @ April 28 2011,17:56)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 29 2011,04:42)Quote (karmarie @ April 27 2011,22:36)WJ, what is wrong with questioning the validity of (a part of) what the topic is about?If you actually read what I had posted then you will see that it is actually about the…[Read more]

]]> 62880bc0d06d95b027c061fa2d23cdff http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-spirit-of-antichrist/page/4/#post-244841 Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:58:26 +1200 Gene, I haven't seen you in a while here, are you ok?What you talkin about Gene? I don't quite get you.What sits in the temple of God IYO?

]]> 7aeb8dc3f4fcea252058227ae73e455e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/for-those-of-you-who-believe-some-will-be-on-earth/page/2/#post-251333 Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:19:02 +1200 Quote (kerwin @ April 30 2011,01:02)Karmarie,What did God design marriage for?  It seems that me that he legislated it for the purpose of having and raising children.  Reproduction will be unnecessary in a place where humans live forever.    I am sure angels have relationships among one another.    A couple may very well stick together for etern…[Read more]

]]> db4da939b00292eb925d9c0a9a212f37 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/for-those-of-you-who-believe-some-will-be-on-earth/page/2/#post-251332 Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:14:20 +1200 Quote (betweenchristendomandjws @ April 29 2011,06:32)I hope angels can materialize on Earth again   . I doubt there's a scriptural reference for it though.BC&JW, I looked but cant find anything. What do the JWs teach on this? (Are you a JW yet)?

]]> 79ccfd6359479781faba869ea77de97f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/christians-and-muslims-believe-the-same-thing/page/20/#post-244829 Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:29:17 +1200 Stuart,Matt4:19Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. And they straightway left nets, and followed him.Matt 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

]]> cb3c4e04a55c79dc2c4558e146e11806 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/christians-and-muslims-believe-the-same-thing/page/20/#post-244826 Fri, 29 Apr 2011 06:41:24 +1200 Heaven net would be an assembly don't you think?

]]> 43e294bc0d25c87fb89441650fd434ee http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/christians-and-muslims-believe-the-same-thing/page/20/#post-244825 Fri, 29 Apr 2011 06:40:09 +1200 Stuart, Quote:Jesus and womenFrom the beginning of the early Christian church, starting with Jesus, women were important members of the movement. The examples of the manner of Jesus reveal his attitudes toward women and show repeatedly how he liberated and affirmed women. Both complementarians and egalitarians see Jesus as treating women with…[Read more]

]]> 461cdee4c11915b909ea752e8377fbd9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/christians-and-muslims-believe-the-same-thing/page/20/#post-244798 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:06:05 +1200 Can be read here,http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.htmlThe Shepherd of Hermas (Greek: Ποιμήν του Ερμά; Hebrew: רועה הרמס‎; sometimes just called The Shepherd) is a Christian literary work of the second century, considered a valuable book by many Christians, and considered canonical scripture by some of the early Church fathers -…[Read more]

]]> d470a37b3829dcbfcf2da7b1fbf91232 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/christians-and-muslims-believe-the-same-thing/page/19/#post-244797 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:01:39 +1200 Quote (bodhitharta @ April 29 2011,11:06)Quote (karmarie @ April 28 2011,22:03)Quote (bodhitharta @ April 26 2011,15:05)Quote (karmarie @ April 26 2011,10:08)OK. Thanks for that Bod.So are you still a Muslim? Do you still believe that Christians and Muslims believe the same thing?(Title of the thread).Muslims and Christians believe that submission…[Read more]

]]> 8e3d0252e6a4ebb85177c1aad956cf58 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-hypostatic-union/page/2/#post-244796 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:56:38 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 29 2011,04:42)Quote (karmarie @ April 27 2011,22:36)WJ, what is wrong with questioning the validity of (a part of) what the topic is about?If you actually read what I had posted then you will see that it is actually about the forefathers and what SCRIPTURE could be saying about it. (You call scripture spam?)Yes to…[Read more]

]]> fd7b5e84c15a43a84a3739830722ff0a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/christians-and-muslims-believe-the-same-thing/page/19/#post-244766 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:32:33 +1200 That was in regard by the way to this;Quote (Stu @ April 29 2011,01:17)karmarieDon't mean to butt in, but just curious about this.  BD you might like to answer as well.  Is islam correct about this?Sura 4:34 Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the s…[Read more]

]]> e1c7f1d58f080e9273eb6493486202a5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/christians-and-muslims-believe-the-same-thing/page/19/#post-244765 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:30:02 +1200 It depends what you are supposed to be obeying them about Stuart. There is something a bit similar in the Bible.You know the ones:1 Timothy 2:12But I don't permit a woman to teach, nor to exercise authority over a man, but to be in quietness. 1 Corin 14:35let your wives keep silent in the assemblies, for it has not been permitted for them to…[Read more]

]]> f2f3b9a99133c5c1c494c9c44c4ffe0b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/christians-and-muslims-believe-the-same-thing/page/19/#post-244762 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:03:16 +1200 Quote (bodhitharta @ April 26 2011,15:05)Quote (karmarie @ April 26 2011,10:08)OK. Thanks for that Bod.So are you still a Muslim? Do you still believe that Christians and Muslims believe the same thing?(Title of the thread).Muslims and Christians believe that submission in God is the way to Salvation.Hi Bod.Going back on some earlier posts and…[Read more]

]]> 0f5bbdddcff409844b7da02dde642832 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-hypostatic-union/#post-244761 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:05:10 +1200 WJ, maybe I understood wrong, when you said 'forefathers' do you mean the Early Church Fathers?

]]> 19a76b9988c2f550bf4fe84eaf522391 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-does-the-bio-father-become-the-bio-father/page/13/#post-244760 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 09:04:01 +1200 All, I realise I was a bit over the top and I apologise for making a public spectacle of myself again.Here is what I will do; I will no longer involve myself in any personal issues or take sides publically. (sort your own problems out).All I will do is report any abusive posts – if I see them – and leave it at that. That is what we are supposed to…[Read more]

]]> 833266db903dacd1505068d4c74b131a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-hypostatic-union/#post-244749 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 03:36:13 +1200 WJ, what is wrong with questioning the validity of (a part of) what the topic is about?If you actually read what I had posted then you will see that it is actually about the forefathers and what SCRIPTURE could be saying about it. (You call scripture spam?)The Church Fathers were in disagreement about MANY things.The SCRIPTURES are what is given…[Read more]

]]> aca19da05964945a558816235ab38ce2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-hypostatic-union/#post-244730 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 23:25:36 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 28 2011,13:12)Why do you post something in this thread that is not about the topic?WJWHAT DID THE FOREFATHERS BELIEVE, thats PART of the title of the thread. You are trying to investigate something using the forefathers as proof.I can read WJ?

]]> 591bb9e61e559f66a1a54cb19ab733f8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-hypostatic-union/#post-244727 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 23:01:58 +1200 I realise that this thread is not about how reliable the 'forefathers' were, that could make another thread, but I just have to say: how trustworthy are their writings? The Bible warns us about trusting in man. Israel’s “fathers” often led God’s people into idolatry. So have the church fathers of Roman Catholicism led their people into idolatr…[Read more]

]]> 71d08d58111331bf6d602bfecbbf478f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-kingdom-of-heaven/page/2/#post-244687 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:14:06 +1200 Kerwin, thats an interesting thing. It does say the saved ones will be like the Angels of Heaven. Thanks for that thought.

]]> d924b6fb4121b0fccd40556d252fda11 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-does-the-bio-father-become-the-bio-father/page/12/#post-244686 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:10:45 +1200 Time out Istari is the best thing.

]]> 70fb232dd7b0c3bc3690543aef835963 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-kingdom-of-heaven/page/2/#post-244680 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 07:11:45 +1200 So Kerwin, do you believe so many will go to Heaven and so many will be on a paradise earth (after the resurection)?

]]> 271929d942b3258b57b7ce9fb2a5a8f1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-kingdom-of-heaven/#post-244679 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 07:10:21 +1200 Quote (Tim Kraft @ April 27 2011,12:43)The ones killed now have no pain and suffering and continue on in another life. So you must be shedding the tear for the survivors! Just a thought. IMO, TKThats a good point, I guess thats true, its the ones left behind who are still suffering.

]]> a8e7901ea99043f4f01648f92e5a16b7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-does-the-bio-father-become-the-bio-father/page/12/#post-244678 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 07:01:35 +1200 Thats my son exactly, Your right too, only God draws people, so does love, I learnt that when I was debating Bod. When it started getting nasty, it was time to walk away. When it was going good was when we were nice to each other. A debate can become neverending, with the same points over and over again, and in the end, does anyone 'win'?You know…[Read more]

]]> a6b97eeb43286566e292fce46d73ca5b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-does-the-bio-father-become-the-bio-father/page/12/#post-244674 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:40:12 +1200 You reminded me of my son, in the way you wrote.

]]> 1464e18a9f2346e816dd4d37d49185de http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-does-the-bio-father-become-the-bio-father/page/12/#post-244673 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:38:38 +1200 SF,I agree with that. I guess I have toughened up now. I wasnt used to the internet. I hadnt been on any forums before. I never got a computer till 5 years ago. And I do take things hard, Im quite sensitive to things especially personal attacks on myself and my relationship with God.But God helps in the end. I believe in God, and thats the best…[Read more]

]]> e7000e39103569128dc270d600d9e6da http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/161/#post-244672 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:28:57 +1200 Quote (Baker @ April 26 2011,16:39)Karmaria, yiou need to look at these Scriptures, wether Jesus is seated at the right hand of His Father, is not the point.  The point is that there are Spiritual Bodies in Heaven….. Scriptures I showed proves it.,..IreneIrene, I really think its one of those things that we will never know, though we try to.…[Read more]

]]> 32a9d80b865447422ee690d6a56b5db5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/161/#post-244670 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:21:25 +1200 Quote (kerwin @ April 27 2011,18:13)Quote (karmarie @ April 26 2011,07:30)Sorry about all the posts. Ok, ill be quiet:)It is rather hard to have a conversation with someone who chooses not to hold up their end.Rather than be quiet, just try to combine similar posts if possible.Thanks for the advice Kerwin.

]]> 2998492a2a40d2b0e2ab1b353f1757b3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-does-the-bio-father-become-the-bio-father/page/12/#post-244668 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:17:46 +1200 Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 27 2011,19:13)Hey Kar,Let's just let it go.  I have walked away from Istari, and we should do the same for a while, okay?mikeHaha,How long for? Thats mean Mike. So you will be ignoring me?

]]> 3d524fa91cb88a281ab7189fe8f77098 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-does-the-bio-father-become-the-bio-father/page/12/#post-244667 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 06:16:22 +1200 SF,Fair enough.So you don't think internet sites changed you ?I can say that they changed me, but that Im ok now. I have been for days. And nobodys going to take it off me. Fair enough?As for your debates, I would debate you, but your posts are too long. Or they used to be:)

]]> aff41b9bfc8a3c17b015e6562b546a58 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-does-the-bio-father-become-the-bio-father/page/12/#post-244654 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 05:11:08 +1200 Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 27 2011,18:53)you are possibly the MOST judgemental person on this site, and I refuse to be judged by you.  Really? Haha. Is that true?

]]> 5140d00dd358b30d0a41c4ce9f9ff90e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-does-the-bio-father-become-the-bio-father/page/11/#post-244653 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 05:08:32 +1200 Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 27 2011,18:53)NOW…………………..will you show me where I “changed the words” of Istari?  You claimed that I did.  Show me where I did what you claimed, or apologize for making false claims against me please.I said “I think thats what Istari was saying” I didn't say it as a fact Mike.Is it too much to ask for s…[Read more]

]]> 8cdb59db88f2853757770310e5760343 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-does-the-bio-father-become-the-bio-father/page/11/#post-244651 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 05:04:10 +1200 Sf, I used to like you. But then you went all funny when you started posting with the debaters and things.I would say more, but I wont.

]]> f6062e29b48030e100ce01bc81eb4349 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/for-those-of-you-who-believe-some-will-be-on-earth/#post-251324 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 03:30:57 +1200 Quote (betweenchristendomandjws @ April 27 2011,15:34)Visions happened back then, but I don't think Humans will appreciate “visions” instead of their real family you know.  I need to know how to be able to explain this to the person who believes all good people go to heaven.BC&JW, I don't quite get your question.I myself would like to know… if…[Read more]

]]> d8cbe6503a225ba0835468334d0c462f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/when-does-the-bio-father-become-the-bio-father/page/11/#post-244630 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 02:48:41 +1200 Mike, calm down. Your anger is showing.I really dont like angry outbursts like that done in self justification and in a mannor in which to protect the self from what others may read. Im not into that. To me that resembles narrsisisim. (Look up the word in the dictionary…  I dont think youll find it on 'NETnotes').Mike, your as bad as each…[Read more]

]]> f8646d4895e9c80959dbd20f13676f56 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/for-those-of-you-who-believe-some-will-be-on-earth/#post-251320 Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:39:56 +1200 Genisis 28:10And Jacob went out from Beersheba, and went toward Haran. And he lighted upon a certain place, and tarried there all night, because the sun was set; and he took of the stones of that place, and put them for his pillows, and lay down in that place to sleep. And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it…[Read more]

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