Moses was called a god too. Does that make him God? No

Sarah called Abraham lord. Does that mean she thought he was God? No

Maybe it’s just a Hebraism? Yes

Being the unique Son of God is by no means ordinary.

If Col 1:15 is interpreted plainly how it’s written in KJV, then I would understand this that Jesus is the first to be born of every creature.

Are you implying that Jesus was born before all creation? What do you think being born means? How could he be born before creation? To be born means to come through the womb of a woman,…[Read more]

Not sure how you were able to imply anything contrary to baptism from what I wrote, but your antagonism is noted.

Anthony,

There’s over 1800 errors in KJV; words have been added to the text to deify Jesus. This isn’t hidden knowledge anymore. I’m sure if you Google scriptures added and/or changed to the Bible it be easy to see. (Johannine…[Read more]

I believe the scriptures.

1Co 15:44  It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Co 15:45  And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

2Co 5:16  Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: ye…[Read more]

The he is Jesus. vs 9 says “but we see Jesus”. Vs. 15 he, Jesus, delivers those for fear of death, remaining verses point to Jesus.

The point is, he didn’t take on the bloodline from Adam, like everyone else on the planet. I’m not saying he was some mystical god being. Yes he had flesh and blood but only took the flesh part from Mary, not…[Read more]

Eph_2:3  Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by n…[Read more]

Have you ever heard of the idiom of permission? Below is an article and short teaching on it. I’m not a Hebrew scholar or from the middle East, so maybe someone on here can tell me if it’s valid, why or why not. When I consider the Word as a whole, I believe it has validity and answers a lot of…[Read more]

We are not innately good, thus needing a savior. No one is righteous in themselves. My righteousness is of Christ, it’s fruit I produce via the holyspirit, because of God and His spirit, and not my behavior/works.

Jos 24:15  And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your…[Read more]

2Co 3:2  Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
2Co 3:3  Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

Jesus read the OT scriptures p…[Read more]

I by my own freewill am choosing to type this message to you. The doctrine you speak of is fallacious predestination. If we are all predestined, and God is a dictator controlling us robots, then there is no need to believe His Word, we’re just puppets on a string. There’s no need to renew our minds, it would be futile. What would be the…[Read more]

You have freewill, it comes from God. You decide whether to believe or not believe, it’s your choice. As Jesus chose “not my will but your’s”. Accusing God of evil is one of the greatest tricks the devil uses to deceive people. As mentioned, not everyone was fully aware of the devil and his kingdom until Christ exposed it. I’m not aware of…[Read more]

I believe satan is a real evil spirit who took a third of the angels with him from God’s presence because the Bible tells me so. It’s not yen and yang. And, I have a TV and can see what’s behind the curtain pulling the strings.

2Co 4:4  In whom the god (satan) of this world (aion=age) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest…[Read more]

We see God when we do and keep His Word. We have all existed in the Mind of God since the beginning. Where does the eternal mind start and end? Jesus saw what the writers wrote from God’s Word about Him. I’ve never heard any Christian that doesn’t believe the trinity, think “he was just a man”, by no means was he. But I also don’t think…[Read more]

Luk 3:38  the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God. 

Rom 5:14  Nevertheless, death ruled from the time of Adam to Moses, even over those who did not sin in the same way Adam did when he disobeyed. He is a foreshadowing of the one who would come.

God is Spirit, He has to manifest himself in the natural re…[Read more]

It’s so unfortunate that when people make Jesus to be God they miss their potential of who they are and can be. If he were God, then I don’t suspect that what he accomplished would be something to behold. But as he was like us, he read the scriptures and new the promises of God from the law and the prophets were to and for him; if we…[Read more]

Act 10:37  That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; 
Act 10:38  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the de…[Read more]

I like Micah 5:2. Haven’t picked up on that one before. However, it says “his going forths” are from old. Concordances’ suggest that means his descent, or origins, are from old/everlasting. This fits with the whole of scripture as God is His father from whom he descended from. Doesn’t necessarily suggest he has existed forever. Do you have…[Read more]

TC,

You referenced your own argument as mine (#833878 <span class=”bbp-admin-links”>REP)</span>, but that is what you said, then you argued against your own statement. Then you started calling me names – how Christian of you, thanks. Let’s not get offensive or offended, we’re just sharpening each other.

Please provide verses of H…[Read more]

Yes that was a typo. Luke 2:40 does not contain “in the spirit”, neither do your other references, so cannot be used to argue that Jesus grew in the spirit.

Luke 1:80 is talking about John not Jesus. John was in the desert until his showing.

You said Jesus received anointing power at Jordan. Isn’t this the spirit? If it’s not, then your…[Read more]

Luke 1:52, most texts don’t have “in the spirit”.

Col 1:18. Jesus is the first from the dead to die no more. Several people have been raised from the dead, even before Jesus Christ, he also raised people from the dead, he wasn’t the first, just the first to die know more.

As well, people had holy spirit before Jesus, It wasn’t a new thing.…[Read more]

Whether JB had holy spirit before being born, during gestation, or from (ek – out from) actual birth, probably not too critical in the whole scheme of things. Point is he had holy spirit before/at birth. Jesus however, received holy spirit upon being baptized by John.

ED J, Bless you sir.

Jesus, received holy spirit, at the…[Read more]

1 Peter 1:11 needs to be understood in the whole of scripture. The “Spirit of Christ” is not the Spirit Jesus Christ, but rather the Spirit of God.

Rom 8:9  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 

Rom 8:11  But if th…[Read more]

Concerning; John 8:58…before Abraham was I am. Scripture needs to be interpreted with scripture, and in context. The context is Jesus being challenged whether he was the messiah. This was/is on the mind of every Jew since it was promised in Gen 3:15, Gal 3:16. Jesus is simply saying I am he that had been prophesied and written…[Read more]

To you and Gene, might I recommend a book, if you haven’t already read it, by Robert Rubenstein called “When Jesus Became God”. It’s an excellent page turner. I have not fact checked, but a good read…[Read more]

You’ve apparently established nothing about my beliefs, not sure how you deduced 1-4 at all. Jesus is a man just like us, our brother, but not born in the same way from the human male sperm. Mary a female woman gave birth to a male Jesus just as the scripture states. We can and do follow him and can do the works that he does (John…[Read more]

RE: Vine and Branches. We are more like Jesus as he’s our brother (Heb 2:11). Jesus is the first fruits to die no more (Rom 8:29-30). We will be “cultivated” when he returns. (1 Corn 15:23-24). God is the husbandman. Though, we are all united as one with God and with His Son Jesus Christ (John 17:11&21)

John 15:1  I am the true vine,…[Read more]

Regarding. Before Abraham was, I am. Would be best translated I am he. Refers to whom God had promised, the Messiah, the Son of Man. The expression is said several times in John 8 and throughout John. Sometimes translators add “he” sometimes not. Have to read in the context, and scope of Word. see (John 8:28, 13:19)

Plus. The I AM,…[Read more]

It’s this simple. Jesus has a God! He is the Word of God made flesh (John 1:14, 1 John 1:2). God’s Word…[Read more]