Search Members

[gentleness]

When people play around with titles or words, certainly they can get all twisted up and far from truth. However when the Bible confirms that there is a God and a Lord who are for us and combines the two persons throughout the NT as two who act together in creation and salvation and then reign eternally with dominion over all creation, you are not just talking about a title in common. Why throw out the ‘smoking gun?’

An honest but mistaken man, once shown the truth, either ceases to be mistaken or ceases to be honest. I choose to cease to be mistaken.

[gentleness]

See this verse in the OT:

Deut 10:17″For the LORD (YHVH Strongs 3068) your God is the God of gods and the Lord (Strongs #136) of lords (Strong’s #113), the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.

In that verse there are three different Hebrew words for the three different words translated as LORD, Lord, and lord.

I hope that helps 🙂

[gentleness]

Paul does say that there is:
One God, the Father
AND
One Lord, Jesus Christ

Revelations clearly tell us that Jesus Christ is the Lord of lords.

The OT tells us that Jehovah is:
The God of gods
AND
The Lord of lords

t8,
You would have us think that Jehovah changed from being the God of gods AND the Lord of lords to being just the God of gods. You seem to think that the Lord of lords is no longer Jehovah.

When did Jehovah stop being the Lord of lords?

Also, your trinity test is flawed because it doesn’t allow for replacing ‘God’ with just the Father or just Jesus as is sometimes the case. The unity is not always being referred to.

[gentleness]

I have found that people are very confused as to the idea of the unity that some call ‘the Godhead.’ They think that to be ‘begotten’ which can simply mean to be ‘brought forth as an offspring’ would mean that the offspring did not exist before being ‘begotten/brought forth.’ That simply is not necessarily so. Even human earthly beings existed for about nine months before being ‘begotten/brought forth.’ Then consider that those same earthly beings had half of their DNA in existence in the ovum within their mother when she was born. So, all that to say, the only begotten Son was never said to have been conceived before the ages, it just says that He was begotten. Being begotten/brought forth doesn’t mean that He did not exist eternally within before being brought forth.

Also, people are confused about how Jesus can be a part of a unity or Godhead when He has a ‘head.’ The common Christian church understands that there are differences of authority within the unity or Godhead. Earthly examples of unities have differing levels of authority, for instance, the husband is the head of the wife yet they are one…a unity.

So, in conclusion, the fact that Jesus is the only begotten Son does not mean that He did not exist eternally within the Father in some manner, before He was begotten.

And, the fact that Jesus has God as His authority doesn’t mean that Jehovah is just God but also Lord and the Unity or Godhead who is both God and Lord has a difference in position. One is the Father and the other is the Son, the Father would naturally be the ‘head’ of the Son.

[gentleness]

I hear this so often, “there is just one God and that is the Father.” What they fail to realize is that Jehovah is not just God but also Lord and there is just one Lord and that is the Son,.

Deut 10:17
“For Jehovah your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.

1 Cor 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

The NT makes it clear who the Lord of lords is:
Rev 17:14
“These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those who are with Him are the called and chosen and faithful.”

There is just one Jehovah and Jehovah just happens to be both God AND Lord…Father and Son.

[gentleness]

Quote (Tiffany @ Oct. 07 2008,15:10)

Gentleness   I just love that users name. Knowing you it fits very nicely. Since your Mother Home teaches you, I am sure She will let you go on here to fellowship. Your ride your Horse, your Mother told me. You are lucky, you know to be able to have the grounds to do so. I forgot to ask your Mother, do you own your own Horse? Keep up the good work, God be with you. With Love Irene

Hi Irene,

I did but he died.

[gentleness]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 01 2008,05:45)

Welcome.

Hi Nick, thanks.

[gentleness]

My Cat
I had a cat named Oreo,
He was black and white like a piano.
Then at the break of day
He ran away,
And we found him on the roadeo.

[gentleness]

My Cat
I had a cat named Oreo,
He was black and white like a piano.
Then at the break of day
He ran away,
And we found him on the roadeo.

[gentleness]

Hello I'm Gentleness, I'm new here:D

[Author]

Posts