Proclaimer……Jesus Christ did not preexist, his birth on this earth. He was prophesied to come into his existence before his actual birth, but he didn’t exist ,  till  the prophesy happened, when he came into his “ONLY” existence he ever had.

You tell us Jesus preexisted, but as what,  you don’t know, nor does your fellow teachers the Trinitarians…[Read more]

Adam……Let’s not forget in the  book of  Acts, Peter also said that they (the Jews ) were responsible for the the death of Jesus.
Acts 2:22-23……You men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which “GOD” by him in the Midwest of you, as you yourselves,  Also know. (23) Hi…[Read more]

Adam……….I also believe that Isaiah 53,  was referring to the nation of Israel as the suffering  servant of God.   But we can’t rule out that God placed the sin of the world on the head of Jesus, as his sacrificial lamb, either.

peace and love to you and yours Adam………gene

Adam……The execution of Jesus may be problematic for Bart Erhman,  because he didn’t  take into consideration,  that Pilot did not believe Jesus deserved to die,  and sought to free him on several occasions.  He even washed his hands about the whole matter,  so he could have Easley made an exception and allowed Jesus’ family and friends to gi…[Read more]

Adam……I like Bart Ehrman’s, Books a lot and many things he writes I agree with, but he lacks a very important then in his reasonings, in my opinion,   he never express or acknowledges that God himself plays  a Part in any of his historical reasonings. He makes it as if God plays no part in what has,  and is happening in the past,  or present,…[Read more]

Adam…..remember what the original word for “redeemed ”  means, it means to “buy back”. So the idea of something used to buy back, is scriptural.  We are told that God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whoso  believes in him should not Parrish. The thread of a redemptive process, through the paying of debt is woven throug…[Read more]

Berean…..why did you leave out the word “ONLY”. there? ,  So,  who is the real “wolf” in sheep’s clothing here?

Jesus said,   “This is eternal life that they might know “YOU” the “ONLY” “TRUE” God, and Jesus Christ who you have sent”.

How clear can you get< the word “ONLY” means there is “NO” other “true” GOD , but ONE and Jesus was not talk…[Read more]

Berean…..Your big problem is, you have Jesus as your God, instead of the God of Jesus as your God. If you truly believed Jesus, you would say exactly what he said, “This is eternal life that they might know you “THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD”  , NOW ask yourself how much of what Jesus said there do you , “truly” Believe?

Peace and love to you and your…[Read more]

Adam…..The native Indians in America, believed in the “Great Spirit,” that was also in all creatures, the Eagle, the Buffalo, etc.  I tend to believe that also,  that God, who “is Spirit” is “in” all things that have life in them.  Life is given by him and returns back to him,  in him we have our “BENIG”.  He is what life itself “IS” . [Read more]

Adam…..Very good post brother,  I just wonder, could it be that In order to see God , we would have to come out side of him ( and because life is what God is) so that would mean we would have to come outside of him, and we would have to die, in order to achieve that?
I am more and more convinced, God is what life “itself” is.  Remember what Paul…[Read more]

Berean……Ephraim and Manasseh make up Joseph’s double portion in Israel, given him by his firstborn birthright given By God.  Read the blessings Jacob placed on the tribe of Joseph.

Gen 48: 16-22….Shows clearly the name of “Israel” is on Ephraim and Manasseh, they were the double portion given above the rest of the tribes of ISRAEL,  Joseph…[Read more]

Adam………Luke 14:26….If “anyone”  come to me and “hate” not his father, mother, and his wife and children , and breathen and sister, yea and his own “LIFE” ALSO, he cannot be my disciple.  Jesus never said that we are to “hate” anyone “themselves”   he said we are to hate the “lives they and we  lived”, not them, themselves.  Many make the assumpti…[Read more]

Berean……….Here is why I believe what Jesus told us,  ‘ the words I am telling you are “NOT”,  my words , but the words of, him ( God the Father) that sent me”.  NOT because I think he is some kind of a God or the Essenes of another God .  I believe he has a GOD, AND IT IS THE EXACT SAME GOD AS MINE, and he is not, my Heavenly Father, nor is he my…[Read more]

All……..I believe the problem exists in the meaning of the word God itself.  When people try to make  that word out to be a “person”,  instead of what the words “itself” actually means, then comes in the confusions.  

let’s  look at what the original word for God actually meant,  The original word was first found in the Hebrew language,  as a [Read more]

Danny……..Adam is not ‘attacking” anyone, He is bringing out what some “critical” textual scholars have derived from our scripture text’s that we have in possession and how they can be  differently interpreted in there original language.  let’s  try to keep this about the posts not about the person who is posting it, especially if the person is on…[Read more]

Adam….The real question is , does Berean actually believe that what he quoted, seeing he believes Jesus is his God, and a ‘PREEXISTING’ Jesus, who created everything. Many trinitarians quote scriptures, and what Jesus said,   but few it seems “actually”  believe him and what he  said.    IMO

peace and love to you and yours Adam……..gene

Adam…..That was good for incite on how the idea of a resurrection from the grave was originally introduced into our scriptures.  I also believe in a resurrection of the complete “Soul”,  “our flesh body with the Spirit of life in it”, just as it was originally created by God the Father in the first place .  And of course the kingdom of Isr…[Read more]

Adam…..I believe your post have some possibilities, but the whole issue I have with it is the idea it is not talking about dead bodies,  even David was dead at that time, and would have to have a new body in order to regain again over Israel. And all those dead Israelites would need new bodies also in order to stand on their feet again.  I see n…[Read more]

Adam….Actually it doesn’t, brother,  because the Hebrew bible does contain a large section on the resurrection of Flesh bodies from the grave.  Please read Ezk 37: 1-14, that whole chapter shows clearly there is a physical resurrection from the gave that will take place for “the whole house of Israel”.

Adam also if you care to while you are…[Read more]

Adam,  how do they Handel the scripture that says, God would not suffer his Holy ones “body”  to see corruption in the Grave. Does that not show a resurrection of a non decomposed human body. And also prove the person (his holy one) was indeed,  put to death, How is that explained away by the Jews.

peace and love to you and yours Adam………gene