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    Berean……Good posts brother.
    peace and love to you and yours……..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 3 years, 5 months ago

    ADAM…….This is what God said,

    Isa 50:1…..Thus saith the LORD, Where is the bill of your mother’s divorcement, “whom I have put away? Or which of my creditors is it, to whom I have sold her?,  Behold for your iniquities have , “YOU” SOLD YOURSELVES, and for “YOUR TRANSGRESSIONS ”  YOU MOTHER  IS YOUR MOTHER PUT-AWAY.  

    That is the way I see it,  …[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 3 years, 5 months ago

    Adam……Every person, nation, fathers and sons,  are brought in judgement for their own sin, not the sin of another,  Israel, and Judah,  transgressed greatly against their God,  they were not now or then being used as a “suffering servant ” of God.  Read the blessings and cursing, given them in Lev 26:14-42.  God said he would bring on them for…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Isaiah 53 in the forum Prophecy 3 years, 5 months ago

    Adam……The one who persecuted And cast Israel out of their land was God himself,  and he used the Assyrians to do it, because of all their unfaithfulness to him. Adam,   Don’t let them make you  think they were this ” Holy” pious,  persecuted servant, people of God,  because that is far from the truth.

    Jer 3:8…..And I saw  when for all the cause…[Read more]

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    Adam……The exact time of the coming of the Messiah written  by Daniel, was given to the Jewish King Herod  by the Jewish scribes themselves, that is why he went about killing the Male children under two years old in Jerusalem, sure seems they know when the Messiah would be born right? How do the Jews disclaim that fact in their denial of Jesus…[Read more]

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    Adam……It wasn’t the original writers, the disciples  of Jesus,  that did that , it was those later who infiltrated the church and  altered the truth to fit their false teachings,  like the Gnostic’s and others, who formed the false teachings of the trinity and PREEXISTING Jesus,  it was not the true teachers of Jesus who did that. Jesus himsel…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum GeneBalthrop 3 years, 5 months ago

    Danny……………….Your hunting for anything that can contradict what Irenaeus said and  clearly explained in (ca 185 AD) .   Danny that the problem here people hunt and peck and add words and change meanings in order to force the truths that are clearly written, in other places in our text.
    Danny I am telling you , Irenaeus in (ca.185 AD)

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum GeneBalthrop 3 years, 5 months ago

    Berean……yes God’s word was indeed with God, just us as your word is with you.  You can’t separate yourself from your words, neither can God either  .

    peace and love to you and yours……….gene

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    Adam……if we ad scriptures those Jews did all kind of things to the Propets who prophesied against them, there are hundreds of  examples clearly written in   the Hebrew  Texts,  scriptures about Jeremiah. Ezekiel, they tried to kill, Moses they tried to get rid of,  even forced Eron,  to make a idol for them to worship their Gods. Even Joseph th…[Read more]

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    Adam…….Do you actually Believe God did what he did to Israel and the Jew’s , without reason?  They constantly sinned against God , giving the things God gave them,  as given to them from the Gods of those other nations, provoking  God the Father to do what he did to then, they became to God a unholy people, corrupt from head to tow.
    They were nev…[Read more]

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    Adam………….It was God that used the gentile nations to  persecute  the Jews, and kick them out of their land, he gave them and Israel out of the land he gave them also, and it was God who sent a sword  after the Jew’s , to destroy them in the nations they went to, just as scriptures says. While the kingdom of Israel and the kingdom of Judah, were…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum GeneBalthrop 3 years, 5 months ago

    Proclaimer…….being called something does not make you that thing you are called.   Example,  if we call a plane a bird , is it really a “bird” , your logic says it is a bird,  when in fact it is not, but has a characteristic  of a bird, it flies like a bird.  No scripture says Jesus “is himself” Gods word, to say that is simply not true.  Now dot…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer……..That was a excellent video post brother.

    peace and love to you and yours……….gene

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    Carmel……..I said Jesus is even now a flesh being,  then you said, “I believe Jesus accomplished nothing by saying that” . I believe Exactly as Jesus said,  ‘the son of man (Jesus ) could do “nothing of himself”,  but the Father who is “in” him done the works”, question is do you ‘truly’ believe what Jesus himself said?  You people worship and sa…[Read more]

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    Carmel……Read what Irenaeus said in CA 185 AD. …..because that is exactly the way I believe.  Jesus was and is not a God of any kind. He did not preexist his existence on this earth either.   All your trinitarian teachings are lies and are not found in the true gospel of Jesus, or the Apostles, or anywhere in scriptures as you present it. Your te…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum GeneBalthrop 3 years, 5 months ago

    To all…..Irenaeus.  (CD. 185 AD). is exactly right, he has presented the truth correctly, if you truly study what he wrote you will come to see very clearly there is “only” one true God, that created everything by himself and not through or by Jesus Christ, nor  anyone else either.

    peace and love to you all and yours……….gene

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    ADAM……Scripture that say “the word of God became flesh” is on of the most misunderstood scriptures in our scriptures for several reasons,  one is a very simple one , because a word is an expression of intellect, it has nothing to do with flesh, words never has and never will have either , words are spirit according to Jesus.
    “Jesus said the word…[Read more]

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    Berean …..I realize Jesus is your God, and you worship him as such,   but he is not my God, I have a God and it’s the same God , Jesus has.   Thank you for your concern though.

    peace and love to you and yours……..gene

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    Mike…..Your reasoning, of who is the actual creator of all things ,  and who is the only true God , is exactly right brother.  IMO, and I Like the way you use sound reasoning on these issues. I do agree with them.

    peace and love to you and yours…………gene 

     

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    Carmel…….What you wrote has nothing to do with a “PREEXISTING ” Jesus.  Forcing text to say what they infect don’t say is a true sign of a “TRINITARIAN”.

    All those who separate Jesus from his and our , “ONLY” flesh existence are “ANTICHRIST’S”  according to the apostle John, and I agree with him. 

     Turning the “image” of Jesus into YOUR “GO…[Read more]

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