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    DT…….You said,”Wasn’t Peter the rock the church would be built on; yet Paul was “greater” in your eye’s and you follow him over Peter?!?!” , another “lie” you and others ignorantly quote, which shows me you actually do not have the “Sprit of Truth’’,  abiding in you, or you would properly understand what Jesus actually was saying  there, and he w…[Read more]

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    DESIRE TRUTH?…..YOUR desire is “your” truth, yours, and thats the problem.  I see both new and old testaments  as  mostly all comparable with each other if seen in the right context,  you on the other hand,  see opposites and total contradictions.  While I would grant you that there some differences in word translations,  I have proven that eve…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer,  why are you still kicking this flat earth thing around,  anyone with common sense knows this world is a round sphere. There is no excuse for anyone in todays world,  to not know that. There is a lots more important things to be discussed here, than the flat earth stupidity.

    peace and love to you and yours Proclaimer………gene

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    DT…..Yes there are variants in both the new testaments and the Old testaments, but that has to do with translation from one language to another.  But that does not mean you should throw out the entire texts, to fit your own conclusions.  I have shown you where Daniel predicted the birth date of the Messiah Jesus, and you reject it, no matter how…[Read more]

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    DT…….Being “born”  of Spirit,  is not saying “you are a Spirit” , it simply mean the Spirit is what generates you to life, we are all born by Spirit, all creation is Spiritually activated.  But Jesus plainly said “he was not a Spirit”.  “After his resurrection from the dead in-fact”.  But that doesn’t do you any good,  because you have rejected th…[Read more]

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    DT…….Jesus himself said, there would be a future event when he would come in great honor and glory, when he would establish the Kingdom of God on this earth,  That time is soon to take place, Then what will you say, when he tells you ….“I have clearly said……”I am, the root and “offspring” of David”.  Will you deny those words in that day?
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    T3……Good post. It is truly by “Faith”, in God the Father, and “IN”  Jesus Christ, we see that “FAITH” at work> 

    peace and love to you and yours T3……..gene

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    Berean…….Blood is a metaphor for “life”, remember what Jesus said, ……> “whosoever will save his life will lose it, and whosoever loses his life for my sake, will save it”>.   We must all come to pour out “our lives” (the way we live), in obedience to God the Father, just as Jesus did, (blood is the symbol of life)  in scripture. Therefore…[Read more]

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    Berean……What you and E.G. White says proves your lack of understanding of the truth.  There are so many errors in what you and White and the rest of “modern Christianity” teaches, but time will tale, won’t it? What I have told you is the “truth”.

    My only subjection for you is to get away from the teachings of  that Church and E.G. White, bef…[Read more]

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    DT…..Death doesn’t , but obedience unto death does,  that may be hard for you to comprehend, but Jesus “demonstrated” what it takes to have a right relationship with God the Father. It take putting our “WILLS” to death, and complete obedience to God the Father, exactly as Jesus was and is, and he demonstrated the ‘Faith’ required of us all in or…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer, yes our vile bodies do need to be changed, and will be at the return of Jesus, but remember what else Paul said,  Php 3:14-15…..> “I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling “OF GOD”, “in” , the anointed Jesus. Let us therefore, as many as be perfect , be thus minded: and if in any thing you be otherwise minded, “GOD” sh…[Read more]

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    DT you said……>What then was the point of Jesus’ death? Why did Jesus say he had to die?

    What Jesus did was to “demonstrate” to us all, what it takes to have a right relationship with God the Father.

    The apostle Paul said the same thing about himself,  1 Co.2;4-5….>“AND my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but…[Read more]

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    DT…….If Jesus death paid off everyone’s sins. Then why are people still dying, and their bodies corrupting in the grave. Jesus died but his body never saw corruption, he was resurrected before it corrupted in the grave, why?   Because he never sinned and therefore  his body was never destroyed in the grave as our are.

    What killed Jesus was a b…[Read more]

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    DT…..Where did I say Jesus didn’t die for the “porpoise of”,  or “because of” the sins of the world?  What i said was,  Jesus didn’t die, “because of”,  or the “purpose of”  “PAYING OFF”, our  sin “debts” in our place,  we must all repent of our own sins.
    Jesus’ life was to “demonstrate” to the whole world how to have our sins forgiven, and h…[Read more]

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    DT……seeming you don’t do what I ask you to , I do it for you.

    the meaning of the word “for”….. Cambridge dictionary ……>

    1…..a preposition…..( INTENDED FOR). showing purpose, as in there is a message for, or I’d better buy something for the baby.
    2…..a preposition….( PURPOSE) …..having the purpose of,  as in…..> There’s a sign they’re say…[Read more]

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    Berean…..Mark and Matt…… is not saying Jesus’ life gave anyone eternal life or paid for their sins off for them,  what it is saying  is ,Jesus ” blood i.e  (life) was given and  shed to show us “how”,  to get our sins forgiven,  his life was the “example” of the,  “new Covenant” of God the Father,   at work in mankind.

    The whole concept of Je…[Read more]

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    DT…….Had you did what I ask you to do, you would has seen that the word “for’.  Does take on the meaning of   “Purpose of”.   It never takes on the meaning of,  “in place of”. As in What Jesus did was in place of us, having to do anything.

    Jesus said clearly……“whosoever will save his life,  (the way he lives) will lose it, whosoever will…[Read more]

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    Berean……wrong all must “repent” of their own sins,  before God, and live exactly as Jesus did through Faith and by the power of the Holy Spirit of God the Father.  Jesus did not pay your or anyone else’s sin debt, It cost him his life to ” demonstrate” to us all how to live right with God the Father, but he did not pay off your or anyone el…[Read more]

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    Danny……Yes Jesus is the “root and offspring of David. And this root and offspring came into his existence when he was born in the flesh on this earth some 2000 years ago.  Jesus did not preexist his birth on this earth,  he was in the Devine plan of God the Father from the foundations of this earth, but never existed till he was born here on ear…[Read more]

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    DT……Yes let do that, let’s see what Daniel said about the coming of the Messiah. I will let you start seeing you see it differently.

    peace and love to you and yours DT……..gene

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