https://heavennet.net/members/epistemaniac/activity/ Activity feed for epistemaniac. Sat, 25 Apr 2026 05:58:49 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 5d7aec1eb600d76ebf1876dd5d4bc1f0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/6/#post-129488 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:39:58 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,16:10)Hi E, No scripture teaches any trinity. No anointed scriptural teacher teaches any trinity. You think by making a soup of scripture you can draw out the essense of a trinity?Such is abuse of the sacred words and elevation of man's rationalisations over what is writtensure the Scriptures do, and no matter…[Read more]

]]> 956b9a0072ffa78b0156beda7225e69a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/6/#post-129486 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:29:01 +1200 Quote Hi E,If you believed the simple scriptural fact of Jesus being the Son of God you would not need all these pages of intellectual rationalisations.Hi N, if you believed the simple scriptural fact of Jesus being the Son of God, and that the Scripture quite explicitly calls Him God, you would not need to ask all these silly questions,…[Read more]

]]> 39394529447a2bdeb456c3613f2f7e6f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/6/#post-129485 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:26:52 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,10:29)Hi E, Simplicity is an important Key and we are told to become as children so thanks.God was a man you say.God alone is immortal so what of your god that died? Why did Jesus not tell folks to pray to him and not the Father in heaven.Why did Jesus not tell people to worship him and not tell them true…[Read more]

]]> 6dc27434a8bfcf1b6590250c53864beb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/6/#post-129481 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:54:11 +1200 Glad you asked…. Not sure that you are because I really do not think you want to have your questions answered… but… there ya go… happy now? lol….blessings,ken

]]> 7d1b1813f199be9ea079056b44f7a7f6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/5/#post-129480 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:50:15 +1200 This part will be especially applicable to many here at this forum….:”C. Errors Have Come By Denying Any of the Three Statements Summarizing the Biblical TeachingIn the previous section we saw how the Bible requires that we affirm the following three statements:1. God is three persons.2. Each person is fully God.3. There is one God.Before we…[Read more]

]]> 8f99f188c36788d16e55c65308fbc74b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/5/#post-129479 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:48:08 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,08:59)Hi E, You say”I profess no wisdom of my own, but only that which is based on the Word of God.” Fine words but where is this trinity god taught by Jesus or the apostles or prophets?Hey… you asked… so don't complain about the answer…”EXPLANATION AND SCRIPTURAL BASISWe may define the doctrine of the…[Read more]

]]> cf77f24da058a6d17c167b83f2dcde2c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/5/#post-129478 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:45:33 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,08:58)Quote (epistemaniac @ April 29 2009,08:48)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,07:48)Hi E,You say”The doctrine of the Trinity teaches this.Therefore the doctrine of the Trinity is true.” Is this the true depth of your wisdom?N,You deny the doctrine of the Trinity.Is that the depth of your wisdom?I profess no…[Read more]

]]> c0eb822ee23c41d5f3aaccd388e2823f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/5/#post-129477 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:43:09 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,09:20)Hi E, Where is this additional testimony that no scripture teacher gave us from the mouth of God?What are you talking about? What additional testimony? The Scripture teaches that there is only 1 God, the Scripture teaches that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are God, eg the Trinity. How much simpler could…[Read more]

]]> eb0dd85c8e29b4e5b4c40238b8e63f72 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/5/#post-129476 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:40:28 +1200 bod… you may say Quote I never say that Jesus spoke to me but I do say that the Spirit of God was upon me when I spoke a certain thing.Well you may think this, you may even say it about yourself, but this has not been the case so far that I have seen. I any case, it was Jesus who promised that wherever 2 or more are gathered together in His…[Read more]

]]> 939e9996620769c96fa1d33994fdc648 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/5/#post-129462 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:32:41 +1200 There is nothing new under the sun. Israel, wanted a King although God was their King so what did he do he gave them a King, Now you have wanted a God that you could define any way you want… and you have created a god that exists only in your mind…. One besides the One that has always been. Jesus is God to the Glory of the Father, so may God…[Read more]

]]> 6fe48a38c8c36fcbc11deabec71945b0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/5/#post-129461 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:08:50 +1200 Quote (bodhitharta @ April 25 2009,04:25)The true Gospel is not popular but Christianity blossomed under a different Gospel advanced by the Catholic Church and Rome, as well as the Greek Orthodox church. The majority of the world claims Christianity as its religion it is certainly the “wide” road.The observation I made about Jesus and simply…[Read more]

]]> 74bf4ac90ee76a8a905462f53e7be480 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/5/#post-129460 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:02:31 +1200 Quote (Cindy @ April 29 2009,10:12)Hi E   I too do not belief in the doctrine of the trinity any more. If you believe in the Bible, I can prove to you that there is no trinity. In Jesus own words ” My Father is greater then I. Also inEphesians 4: 6 it says that the Father is above all…….I think you make the mistake in believing it, because of…[Read more]

]]> b86175875126c345b99cfa67caf7ca46 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/5/#post-129445 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:22:56 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,08:49)Hi E, Is your god a man?Was God in this man?Nick, are you really such a simpleton? I don't mean to be rude. But listen, if you want to go on thinking that by asking questions which are sometimes quite inane and, also, all too often it seems to me, intentionally misrepresenting of other people's views, then…[Read more]

]]> 31a1bc4c5e916dfba3ad50ba2a86e189 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/4/#post-129436 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:06:39 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,08:33)Hi E, You can make anything or anyone into an Idol. ” But for us there is one God, the Father…”Are you one of US?“Us”I am not an “us” in the sense that I would identify myself as being associated with you or anyone like you who denies the Trinity. However, in the biblical sense of the term, for me, there…[Read more]

]]> c8cea64cc513f1a9ff3f71d98c649967 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/4/#post-129432 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:48:20 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,07:48)Hi E,You say”The doctrine of the Trinity teaches this.Therefore the doctrine of the Trinity is true.” Is this the true depth of your wisdom?N,You deny the doctrine of the Trinity.Is that the depth of your wisdom?I profess no wisdom of my own, but only that which is based on the Word of God. If you prefer…[Read more]

]]> b7e2ca73c143d97f6ecafa89dc16ba2f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/4/#post-129431 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:41:24 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,07:46)Hi E, Do you have a mediator between you and your trinity God?My mediator is the man Jesus Christ…. it also just so happens that Jesus is also a member of the Trinity. Turns out it is necessary for God to act as mediator, as only God could satisfy the necessary requirements for a holy and perfect…[Read more]

]]> 0f269317da324d5ba294442a19b78e5a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/4/#post-129427 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:31:14 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,07:39)Hi E, 1Cor84As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. 5For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)…[Read more]

]]> 6f5b482236e444459e381ab2e17ea147 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/4/#post-129426 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:27:10 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,07:37)Hi E, You say”The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all called God.Therefore God is the Father Son and Holy Spirit.” This does not seem facile reasoning to you?Facile? Why yes Nick lol… it does seem… facile…Facile means:”Done or achieved with little effort or difficulty; easy.Working, acting, or…[Read more]

]]> afde352579c3bf294b8dadd55acf9334 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/3/#post-129418 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:23:03 +1200 bodi, you say Quote As far as access to divinity is concerned if Someone prays to the Father and a divine thing occurs does this person not have access to the divine? Didn't Jesus say that the Father does all the works through Jesus and Jesus said he could do nothing on his own?If you think that your asking something in prayer makes you of the…[Read more]

]]> de0564fd08ad2fa9544326770abdbeed http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/3/#post-129417 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:20:16 +1200 bodi, let me ask you, do you have the Spirit of Christ in you?blessings,ken

]]> 2a936783546a3499ca782dab5efcc54f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/3/#post-129416 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:15:24 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 29 2009,06:41)Hi E, You stumble over your theology. Keep it simple. God is one.  Jesus Christ is the Son of that God.Nick, you stumble over your theology. And make no mistake about it, you, Irene, t8, everyone here, has a “theology”. The word “theology” simply means…”the·ol·o·gy (th-l-j)n. pl. the·ol·o·gies1. The st…[Read more]

]]> 73ba733b3816e4034f5faf69ae65e491 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/3/#post-129412 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:59:31 +1200 Quote (Cindy @ April 29 2009,05:54)ken!  Rev.3:14 “… These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God.”  Ether this Scripture is wrong or you are. I believe the Scripture. Also in Col. 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. IMO Jesus did exist before He became a…[Read more]

]]> 396872c8d9c38959708099b5860799b3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/3/#post-129404 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:37:05 +1200 bodi… you saidQuote Just because Jesus is Unique in his Sonship it doesn't even make him exclusive, now I will teach you something newHebrews 1117 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,John 316 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,…[Read more]

]]> 92aa19e68744f409850cfc37ad0e745e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/3/#post-129400 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:46:39 +1200 bodi, you say Quote Jesus says he had the authority to rise from the dead through a command from God, do you believe Jesus needed assistance to raise from the dead?Do not add or subtract form the word of God bodi… this is very dangerous. I know we all paraphrase the bible sometimes, but we must not ever paraphrase in a deceitful way so as to…[Read more]

]]> ff997e59f32c689e1016c58def404ea3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/3/#post-129398 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:37:52 +1200 bodi… you said Quote Jesus died(Blessings be upon him forever) Now, Jesus is not dead but he died and that is the crux of the entire belief, correct?God has never died even according to your own belief God raised Jesus(whom you call God) from the dead.Jesus has always existed, did not cease to exist when He died on the Cross, and lives now, and…[Read more]

]]> 484c6896fa8cff3c65520a65c620219d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/3/#post-129397 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:31:04 +1200 bodi….you say Quote The One and Only TRUE GOD whom Jesus Christ declares has always lived without death and will never die, He is the EVERLIVING GOD can you say this about Jesus?Absolutely. There never was a time when the Son did not exist. There. Now I've said it… lol Better, though, the bible says it Hebrews 13:8 (ESV) Jesus Christ is the…[Read more]

]]> f6211c2a2bfb4d3dcc33b46ae35c79ca http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/3/#post-129396 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:24:41 +1200 boditharta… and by the way… what kind of name is this… it sounds very… eastern Indian… kind of well… buddahish… to coin a word… lol… anyways….you said Quote His Father has no originator. You cannot say that Jesus was eternal although you can say he has eternal life, Jesus has not always lived as evidenced in his death.Please do…[Read more]

]]> a4a15138e83c3c03a8f53bc672d1bc1d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/3/#post-129395 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:19:13 +1200 bodhitharta, you say Quote The term son points to an origination within a Father now if you understand this you have to concede that Jesus is Originated by His Father, therefore he is the product of his Father.Jesus as a man originated from the Holy Spirit, that is what the bible says. Matthew 1:20 (ESV) But as he considered these things, behold,…[Read more]

]]> b5b847bdf4f8f913f0ba80fbd49f274d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/2/#post-129394 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:01:52 +1200 boditharta, your simplistic reasoning in regard to your definition of “father”, while on the one hand it is definitely self serving, is not much of a service to anyone else… part of the truth is still a lie….πατήρ patér; gen. patéros contracted patrós, masc. noun. Its etymology is uncertain. A father, spoken generally of men and in a s…[Read more]

]]> fc3fe09a2484e3bc0bdccfc60ff2175f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worshipping-jesus/page/2/#post-129391 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:51:53 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 25 2009,19:31)Hi bodhithartaIts pretty bad that you create a whole thread to attack me!But have at it.Quote (bodhitharta @ April 25 2009,04:25)The true Gospel is not popular but Christianity blossomed under a different Gospel advanced by the Catholic Church and Rome, as well as the Greek Orthodox church. The…[Read more]

]]> 4b2095dac872996da9183dea7b978ff2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/omnipresent-98/page/7/#post-129390 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:50:35 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2009,07:01)Hi E, When did you stop relying on scripture for finding truth?yet more in the way of illogic and God denying carnal reasoning… Nick… we are to love the Lord our God with all our heart, soul,. strength AND mind…. stop engaging in these informal fallacies called “complex questions”… for I might just…[Read more]

]]> c8bac1df8520cd6e41d7dcecd4e933a8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/163/#post-129386 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:29:48 +1200 Quote (t8 @ Mar. 31 2009,22:20)Quote (thethinker @ Mar. 25 2009,08:53)t8 said:Quote Sorry thinker, but God is one. God is the Father. God has a son. These are written.I think that you are so saturated with your Trinity Doctrine that you are unable to be objective when presented with alternatives to your view.I think that you need to rethink your…[Read more]

]]> 5070149190f786e156e2f2c18d819cd0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/163/#post-129383 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:05:41 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 28 2009,07:24)Quote (kerwin @ April 28 2009,05:50)Worshipping Jesus wrote:Quote Just another form of false doctrine then, for it is not scripturally perfect or sound because there is a whole lot of inference.The trinity doctrine at best in an inferred doctrine and at worse is completely irrational.If you really mean…[Read more]

]]> f0d5d4a858c0cdda147ddc4b28f8e74b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-the-father-have-a-penis/page/12/#post-129382 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:02:16 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 28 2009,21:33)Hi KW, Was no man ever capable of obeying the law?not all of the laws all of the time… this would be to be perfect, and eliminate the need for the Savior… the bible is clear that no one has ever perfectly obeyed the law… why? because we are by nature children of wrath… Ephesians 2:2-3 (ESV) in…[Read more]

]]> 058589ff187acf9ab6aad526c24862a5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-son-of-god/page/54/#post-129380 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:55:29 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 27 2009,18:49)Hi GM, His father was God by God's Holy Spirit. It is writtenWrong.Matthew 1:18 (ESV) Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit. {b]That is what is written. Do not add…[Read more]

]]> 9ad91cbc5c4f5fb7d54dd6b657af898d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/will-all-men-be-saved-5/page/4/#post-128819 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:55:56 +1200 Quote (Gene @ April 24 2009,10:20)E……..One question, since the Word used for eternity is really age, Which means a period of time, and not forever, could it be just for a time they are punished then. But not for ever.  Torment really a form of intense Judgments? The smoke of their torment is not real smoke but the lessons learned by the…[Read more]

]]> 2a61146eccaa6ba6849ba7c729d840c8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/will-all-men-be-saved-5/page/3/#post-128692 Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:02:58 +1200 the biblical doctrine is not annhilationism or universalism… but is rather that the unsaved lost experience eternal conscious torture…1 Corinthians 15:53-54 (ESV) For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality. When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on…[Read more]

]]> c949fada27be2ef2116f086587e928fe http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-not-the-only-true-god-jesus-tells-who-is/page/9/#post-128691 Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:49:50 +1200 Quote (kerwin @ April 23 2009,18:59)epistemaniac wrote:Quote apparently you are unaware that kyrios translates the name of God (Yahweh/Jehovah) in the LXX.The New Testament writers did replace Yahweh/Jehovah with Lord but that does not mean that the Lord always means Yahweh/Jehovah.  Jews do not like using God's name even though Yahweh/Jehovah is…[Read more]

]]> 271008743ddd4968004ddcb666ba10a9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-not-the-only-true-god-jesus-tells-who-is/page/9/#post-128690 Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:43:58 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 23 2009,17:52)Hi E, You must remain orthodox. Otherwise you would dare to align with God's words.so you do reject all of the Apostle Paul's writings!!! wow… that is sad Nick… you elevate yourself to higher and higher levels of infallibility. You have rejected Rome's Pope only to become one…[Read more]

]]> fa7c2cf5e2c43c2647947fac9b179cfa http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/omnipresent-98/page/5/#post-128688 Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:39:39 +1200 Hi KW, as far as Quote Certainly His Father schooled him well in his youth on scripture and it's beauty.But that was all towards enabling his vessel to be clean and suitable for infilling with treasure these are simply the carnal understandings of a sinful fallen man and should not be taken as anything other than N's interpretation of what the…[Read more]

]]> 81d70602bb6d2b0d9f989a634874c3df http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/a-childs-age/#post-128686 Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:31:19 +1200 the bible does not specifically say at what age a child stops being a child and moves into adulthood… it will be different from child to child….as to asking our children to teach us doctrine, that is foolish and unscriptural… we are to be mature in our faith and thinking…Ephesians 4:11-14 (ESV) And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the…[Read more]

]]> 7680b585d3b5d74d06ceed5667449fef http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-not-the-only-true-god-jesus-tells-who-is/page/8/#post-128621 Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:20:05 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 23 2009,14:27)Hi BD, We love your scriptural straighforwardness.Keep holding fast to the simple truths despite the efforts of the confused.really? so you reject all the writings of Paul as well….? I had no idea your unorthodox views had taken you so far from the truth?Sad….blessings,ken

]]> 368e289f8c4718af310ba2564ade4998 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-not-the-only-true-god-jesus-tells-who-is/page/8/#post-128620 Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:16:04 +1200 Quote (bodhitharta @ April 23 2009,14:07)epistemaniac,This should clear up this whole matter. (Praise God for this insight He gave me)Jesus is the Son of GodAre you a child of God or a Child of The Father? Jesus says that we are The Father's ChildrenIs Jesus your Father or is Jesus's Father your Father?Also, Jesus is the Son of GodWhat God is…[Read more]

]]> a31781bae9efd23af7c34cfead781f09 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-not-the-only-true-god-jesus-tells-who-is/page/8/#post-128610 Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:21:58 +1200 Quote (bodhitharta @ April 23 2009,08:27)Quote (epistemaniac @ April 22 2009,15:17)Quote (bodhitharta @ April 17 2009,16:43)Quote (epistemaniac @ April 17 2009,04:34)nope… Jesus DID NOT say that Quote THEE ONLY TRUE GODif for no other reason than that Jesus did not speak Elizabethan English ;)since the bible elsewhere says that Jesus is God,…[Read more]

]]> bd94b9c92710d5170632aec9244c5b02 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/omnipresent-98/page/5/#post-128548 Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:30:05 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2009,19:00)Hi KW,No.Preexistence is an oxymoron. One either exists or one does notno its not…”oxymoron Nouna figure of speech that combines two apparently contradictory terms, for example cruel kindness ” if one were saying that someone existed before they existed, then yes, that would be untrue and logically…[Read more]

]]> 2c0b6bab42f061a36a6996a40837ab7d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-not-the-only-true-god-jesus-tells-who-is/page/7/#post-128448 Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:34:25 +1200 Quote (bodhitharta @ April 21 2009,17:12)Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 20 2009,18:49)Bodhitharta, bearing in mind that YHWH evidently entrusted the writing of the New Testament to these men, do you think you have a better handle on the interpretation of Old Testament passages than them?Did you assume that everything Bound is inspired even when I showed…[Read more]

]]> 36e6919058024264ba2b590752541a0f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-not-the-only-true-god-jesus-tells-who-is/page/7/#post-128444 Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:17:49 +1200 Quote (bodhitharta @ April 17 2009,16:43)Quote (epistemaniac @ April 17 2009,04:34)nope… Jesus DID NOT say that Quote THEE ONLY TRUE GODif for no other reason than that Jesus did not speak Elizabethan English ;)since the bible elsewhere says that Jesus is God, (Heb. 1:8; Titus 1:3-4, etc etc), then the Bible teaches a contradiction (polytheism)…[Read more]

]]> acd876f3c0b1394c2cbcdc25aaf32416 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/a-greek-name-a-false-name/#post-128441 Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:56:42 +1200 Guess we should stop calling Paul “Paul” and only refer to him as “Saul” for that, being his Hebrew name, is somehow supposedly “holier” than his Greek name….??? or maybe not… blessings,ken

]]> a5145e0f50e1160165eabe2822cb42f9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/some-things-should-not-be-spoken-of/#post-128438 Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:45:56 +1200 Quote (wild_olive_branch @ April 22 2009,11:57)Thank you Ken, so greatly appreciated. for everything that becomes visible is light………not fully taking this part in, will ask for help in understanding. much love renethis seemed to get at the meaning well…”13. But when all these (wicked practices) are exposed by the light they are made…[Read more]

]]> eff34a26d9c31e2c895a6752e683b0eb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/did-scripture-writers-make-errors/page/3/#post-128418 Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:42:46 +1200 After reading a bunch of stuff, this passage seems to best capture what is going on re Enoch, or rather, 1 Enoch…”The surprising element to most readers is not the content of the prophecy but its source. First Enoch is not considered to be canonical Scripture by any religious group, whether we think of Judaism, Roman Catholicism, the Greek or…[Read more]

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