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    @Gene,

    You: You mixing up “commandment”, with “LAW” (forced compliance) , they’re not the same thing.

    Me: Explain the difference.

    You: What I meet by the “intent” of the law, was what the whole law was driving at in the first place.

    Me: What is the law driving at? You haven’t explained.

    You keep mentioning “forced obedience”; none were “forc…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    You: IT IS EVIDENTLY CLEAR THAT WHATEVER DOESN’T PLEASE YOU ESPECIALLY WHEN IT REVEALS YOUR SPIRITUAL WEAKNESS, YOU SIMPLY CALL IT A JOKE! DESPITE THE FACT THAT GOD IS AT WORK!

    Me: Spiritually weak??!? Why because I don’t “measure up” to your level of “spirituality”? It’s what you write that is the joke.

    You: ABEL WAS NEVER BORN OF…[Read more]

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    @Jodi

    Your response to me:

    You to a post to Gene or Carmel said, “Answer me, how can Jesus be the “root” of Jesse/David/Solomon when both Matthew and Luke claim Jesus was conceived of the spirit? In order for Jesus to be a descendant of David, his father would have be a direct descendant of David; yet, he was conceived of the spirit. Hon…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    You: “HI Desire truth

    You: Answer me, how can Jesus be the “root” of Jesse/David/Solomon when both Matthew and Luke claim Jesus was conceived of the spirit?

    Me: Genesis 18:11 Now they were both old, and far advanced in years, and it had ceased to be with Sara after the manner of women.

    Answer please, HOW CAN ISAAC BE THE SON OF ABR…[Read more]

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    @Gene,

    You: he fulfilled the intent of the Law.

    Me: What is/was the intent of the Law? Explain.

    You: Jesus fulfilled all the requirements of the book of the law and commandments. But he didn’t do it by the way “LAW” ( forced compliance) WORKS

    Me: Your “forced compliance”, the “law is burdensome”, the “law is a curse”, the “law is for sinners”…[Read more]

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    @Gene

    @Carmel

    You guys have been going back and forth AND getting quite nasty with each other…so Christ like. Remove your closing statement, because there is nothing peaceful or loving in your replies.

    Answer me, how can Jesus be the “root” of Jesse/David/Solomon when both Matthew and Luke claim Jesus was conceived of the spirit? In order for…[Read more]

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    @Gene,

    You: FIRST OF ALL, Jesus was not talking about the “law” in the sense PAUL was, and you misquoted what he was saying, Jesus said……”for “All” the prophets and the Law “prophesied “UNTIL” John”. Jesus was talking about what was written in the, “BOOKS”, of the law and the prophets. HE was not talking about the law in relationship to the “Te…[Read more]

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    @Jodi,

    I did read what you wrote in the original post; I wasn’t going to spend the time commenting on your experience in your youth with the WWCG or derivative. What was given to Moses was for the Jews and not for the rest of the world. Your personal study experiences and what you found are very similar to mine and didn’t feel any commentary was…[Read more]

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    @Jodi,

    This is in response to post #945224, finally have a moment to respond; sorry you are offended by saying to read the prophets of God. To also say, “sounds to me like once again you are speaking through assumptions that are false.” Explain how reading what the prophets wrote is speaking through false assumptions?

    You must remember, up unt…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    You: “First and foremost I am going to remain subject to MY WRITING FORMAT, since it is destroying you in a particular way!”

    Me: This tells me all I need to know about you…then I stopped reading.

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    @Carmel,

    You: PAUL CONFIRMED THAT JESUS IS GOD! NO? (copy and pasted in all your yelling glory)

    Me: Jesus isn’t God, glad you final realize it. Oh wait, it was a question; if Jesus is God and God cannot be tempted, explain the 40 days in the desert when Jesus was tempted. Oh wait, that was God taking on human form and was subject to the t…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    You CANNOT answer the question with the verse in question; I did answer you concerning the term “scripture” and the only scripture that was available in the first century the Jewish people would reference was the Tanakh (OT) or was Paul referencing some Roman or Greek writing? The fact you are making a HUGE deal of this tells me you’re j…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    You can look at the OT and use it for a source of review and treat it like a fine piece of literature, but if you consider it “obsolete” what good is it to you? Why look at it; are you in need of a history lesson or as I said before, is the purpose of the OT for self service?

    If god is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow, HIS words…[Read more]

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    @Carmel

    You: “First and foremost, keep in mind that you have at least four of my post that you never replied for a reason only you know!”
    Me: How many questions have you left unanswered for me…tears of rivers flowing.

    Your response to Mark 4:11-12: “With your declaration, you simply confirmed that you are more than stagnated and still live…[Read more]

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    @Nick,

    So you believe the words of God are confusing? Funny, what does God say about wisdom and understanding.

    Prov 3:13 Blessed is the one who finds wisdom, and the one who gets understanding,

    You always quote NT verses to support your NT belief. Why is it you never quote an OT verses to support a NT idea; shouldn’t the NT be confirmed by t…[Read more]

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    @Danny,

    Let’s say someone is teaching you how to skydive, but used words you didn’t understand, left out life saving instructions, wouldn’t answer questions in the simplest manner, and when it came time for the real jump told you good luck and shoved you out the door? Your view of this instructor would be positive or negative?

    Now explain Jesus…[Read more]

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    @Gene,

    Then I propose the question to you again; but this time take a moment and answer it.

    What does the OT say about the Messiah; who will he be and what will he do when he arrives, does this match the Messiah of the NT? Is the Jewish Messiah the same as the Christian Messiah?

    You keep telling me by rejecting Jesus I have rejected God; this…[Read more]

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    @Jodi,

    We can continue to debate what we believe is truth and write long explanations trying to prove our side of the “truth”; but the bottom line is what does the OT say about the Messiah; who will he be and what will he do when he arrives, does this match the Messiah of the NT? If you have found a passage to support the NT Messiah in the OT,…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    You:

    “Hi Desiretruth,

    You: God was forgiving mankind without the need or help of a messiah figure.

    Me: THEN WHAT?

    You: God forgave without the need for “blood” since HE was looking for a truly repentant heart.

    Me: THEN WHAT?

    You: So the question still remains, what need does anyone have with Jesus?

    Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy…[Read more]

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    @Proclaimer,
    In response to post #945105

    You quoted me:
    “God said he is our salvation, not that I have to go through another. God said to repent, turn from your wickedness, and your sin will be remembered no more. God said HE had no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but desired they turn from their wickedness and live. What god do you s…[Read more]

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