@Berean,

I’m not going to focus on every response, but just a few that really jump out as being patently false and why believing something doesn’t make it truth.

you:

verse 14 suggests that God spoke to the serpent (the animal)

It may seem unfair that God cursed him (although not with death)

but since God cursed him, there is a rea…[Read more]

@Berean,

you: “Honestly I believe that EITHER Satan used this serpent (he made it his medium) to get Eve to sin against God’s order.”

me: So you “believe” Sa-tan possessed the creature and made it “entice” Eve to take and eat the fruit. Does your “belief” explain why Eve had no problem speaking with the serpent? Does your belief explain wh…[Read more]

@Berean,

The passage of Gen 3:1 tells us a “serpent” spoke to Eve. Verse 1 also states this “serpent” was more cunning than all the beasts of the field God made. Is this “serpent” Sa-tan, is Sa-tan a created beast of the field, was this serpent somehow “possessed” by Sa-tan, or was this “serpent” a higher level of beast created?

This is act…[Read more]

@Gene,

We have two very distinct perspectives on what the “law” is; you believe mankind is under this dictatorship type thumb of God and you better do what he says, or else (fear driven enforcement). I see the Torah (books of the Law) not a series of do’s and don’ts, but as a set of instructions explaining how to live in relation to God and the…[Read more]

Revelation 22:16 “I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the ROOT and the OFFSPRING of David, and the bright morning star.”

How can this be when in Hebraic tradition the tribal lineage comes from the father and Jesus had no earthly father; Jesus was conceived of the spirit and not of the “se…[Read more]

@Danny,

You: Revelation 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, AND unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Me: Jesus, the son of God, says to worship God…[Read more]

@Danny,

I said “worship” not “honor”; these are two distinct words, one show reverent devotion and the other is high respect. This verse you quote is a little troubling for me since is says to merely “honor” God; no, what God deserves is our complete devotion

In Matt 4:10 and Luke 4:8 Jesus says, “You shall worship the Lord your God, and him o…[Read more]

@Danny,

Is your worship about Jesus, God, or the belief in christianity? There can only be one…

@Gene,

We seem to be going in a circle and as I have said in the past, I hate merry-go-rounds. Please explain the difference between a “commandment” and a “law” AND give an example of each from scripture.

I’ll get to your Ex 20:20 in the christian bible; Ex 20:17 in the Hebrew bible…fascinating stuff.

@Carmel,

You are one of those people who believes they are the most intelligent person in the room and then they open their mouth, in this case begin writing, only to prove they are the biggest fool in the room.

You made the wild claim they were THREE “immaculate conceptions”, conceptions done without the combination of sperm and egg, and I am…[Read more]

@Carmel,

So who are we talking Cain or Abel?? You said Abel, but give scripture for Cain?!?!?!

Stop wasting my time; if you have a point, make it.

@Carmel,

In other words, there is no scripture to back up what you claim and now you are deflecting. To ask me to provide you a scripture to refute your claim of Able’s “immaculate conception” is backwards. It’s okay for you to make wild comments without support, but everyone else must support what they say…understood. Hope your pedesta…[Read more]

@Jodi,

In reply to post #945628, not once did you align the passages Isa 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-4; Zech 8:20-23; Zech 9:9-10; Zech 14:16 to the NT.

Where in the NT does it state in the last days “The mountain of the house of the Lord Will be established as the chief of the mountains, And will be raised above the hills; And all the nations will s…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: You mixing up “commandment”, with “LAW” (forced compliance) , they’re not the same thing.

Me: Explain the difference.

You: What I meet by the “intent” of the law, was what the whole law was driving at in the first place.

Me: What is the law driving at? You haven’t explained.

You keep mentioning “forced obedience”; none were “forc…[Read more]

@Carmel,

You: IT IS EVIDENTLY CLEAR THAT WHATEVER DOESN’T PLEASE YOU ESPECIALLY WHEN IT REVEALS YOUR SPIRITUAL WEAKNESS, YOU SIMPLY CALL IT A JOKE! DESPITE THE FACT THAT GOD IS AT WORK!

Me: Spiritually weak??!? Why because I don’t “measure up” to your level of “spirituality”? It’s what you write that is the joke.

You: ABEL WAS NEVER BORN OF…[Read more]

@Jodi

Your response to me:

You to a post to Gene or Carmel said, “Answer me, how can Jesus be the “root” of Jesse/David/Solomon when both Matthew and Luke claim Jesus was conceived of the spirit? In order for Jesus to be a descendant of David, his father would have be a direct descendant of David; yet, he was conceived of the spirit. Hon…[Read more]

@Carmel,

You: “HI Desire truth

You: Answer me, how can Jesus be the “root” of Jesse/David/Solomon when both Matthew and Luke claim Jesus was conceived of the spirit?

Me: Genesis 18:11 Now they were both old, and far advanced in years, and it had ceased to be with Sara after the manner of women.

Answer please, HOW CAN ISAAC BE THE SON OF ABR…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: he fulfilled the intent of the Law.

Me: What is/was the intent of the Law? Explain.

You: Jesus fulfilled all the requirements of the book of the law and commandments. But he didn’t do it by the way “LAW” ( forced compliance) WORKS

Me: Your “forced compliance”, the “law is burdensome”, the “law is a curse”, the “law is for sinners”…[Read more]

@Gene

@Carmel

You guys have been going back and forth AND getting quite nasty with each other…so Christ like. Remove your closing statement, because there is nothing peaceful or loving in your replies.

Answer me, how can Jesus be the “root” of Jesse/David/Solomon when both Matthew and Luke claim Jesus was conceived of the spirit? In order for…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: FIRST OF ALL, Jesus was not talking about the “law” in the sense PAUL was, and you misquoted what he was saying, Jesus said……”for “All” the prophets and the Law “prophesied “UNTIL” John”. Jesus was talking about what was written in the, “BOOKS”, of the law and the prophets. HE was not talking about the law in relationship to the “Te…[Read more]