Heaven Net | DavidL | Mentions https://heavennet.net/members/davidl/activity/mentions/ Activity feed mentioning DavidL. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 45e0c1dd3c377d0f6a274342f21cc222 Proclaimer replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-hell-eternal/page/28/#post-820757 Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:44:59 +1300 @davidl

]]> ce3c3a85b9ba045ea047a60d5bab4260 Proclaimer replied to the topic The Matrix in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-matrix/page/4/#post-819383 Sat, 27 May 2017 06:08:43 +1200 @davidl

You gave me a hard time about using the Matrix as a way to communicate the true gospel, and now you have one of the main characters of that movie as your avatar. lol.

]]> ca751a57152dd654bb3f123b68206d46 Admin replied to the topic The Matrix in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-matrix/page/4/#post-819381 Sat, 27 May 2017 06:03:02 +1200 @davidl

You gave me a hard time about using the Matrix as a way to communicate the true gospel, and now you have one of the main characters of that movie as your avatar. lol.

]]> ef1f81b4b0cc87f7d08c15e6a4373bf8 Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/upon-this-rock-jesus-christ-built-his-church/page/5/#post-800739 Sun, 05 Jul 2015 09:26:57 +1200 @DavidL

You’re flogging a dead horse t8..

So this is what you call the most precious of truths?

For us there is one true God, the Father, and one Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ. This one true God sent his own son into the world to save the world.

And this is what you call a dead horse???

How did it come to this for you. What was the process you w…[Read more]

]]> 33972f09992e1aa915a2d09cfbf0cf41 Proclaimer replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/upon-this-rock-jesus-christ-built-his-church/page/5/#post-800739 Sun, 05 Jul 2015 09:26:57 +1200 @DavidL

You’re flogging a dead horse t8..

So this is what you call the most precious of truths?

For us there is one true God, the Father, and one Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ. This one true God sent his own son into the world to save the world.

And this is what you call a dead horse???

How did it come to this for you. What was the process you w…[Read more]

]]> bfae3c0b4ab9d43892ac4a999320561d Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/233/#post-800550 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 12:26:32 +1200 @DavidL

“JESUS IS GOD.” – John MacArthur

I know what many men say. Some say he is a mere man, some say he is Almighty God. Others say that he was a deceiver, some say a lunatic, and still others say he was a good man.

But what does scripture teach about who Jesus is?

Scripture teaches that he is the son of God, the Christ, and the one whom God…[Read more]

]]> 0d8a024b1f4ea1a476e1040abe8766b5 Proclaimer replied to the topic The Matrix in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-matrix/page/4/#post-800548 Thu, 02 Jul 2015 11:01:26 +1200 @DavidL

I know for a fact that you cannot say and neither do you believe that the only true God is the Father and that he sent his son into the world, the one whom God made both Lord and Christ. I know you cannot teach this nor repeat this and I know this because you persecute me for repeating it and teaching it. Yet this is clearly written and…[Read more]

]]> f72353a89f1d5ced5011519274d8d357 Proclaimer replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? - The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-and-what-is-jesus-the-trinity-doctrine/page/14/#post-800102 Tue, 23 Jun 2015 21:56:45 +1200 @DavidL

SEEING in your heart the reality of Jesus, through the inspired Word – (as opposed to the shifting sands of theological interpretation).

Here is the rock that Jesus built HIS Church on.

Matthew 16:13-18
13 Jesus came into the country of Caesarea Philippi. He asked His followers, “Who do people say that I, the Son of Man, am?”
14 They…[Read more]

]]> e26c2e5c0f24795f57b1235ea9728a1a Proclaimer replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? - The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-and-what-is-jesus-the-trinity-doctrine/page/13/#post-799676 Tue, 16 Jun 2015 03:52:21 +1200 @DavidL

Upon what rock did Jesus build his Church on?

]]> bce3a71983d8670f1531b0f4d7a3c1ab Proclaimer replied to the topic Where to fellowship if you don't believe in the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/where-to-fellowship-if-you-dont-believe-in-the-trinity/page/3/#post-799652 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:36:12 +1200 @DavidL
You said:

“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
These are the words of Jesus Christ whom you say you follow…
His Words are life..
but yours are poison.

The Catholics have had a very strong influence in your life DavidL.

Encyclopedia Britannia, the 11th…

[Read more]

]]> 1403f9e6ea45f5a6e5e0afb83c20a1dc Proclaimer replied to the topic 1 Timothy 3:16 in the forum Truth or Tradition http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/1-timothy-3-16/page/3/#post-799645 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:17:31 +1200 @DavidL, anyone who has the arrogance to say that God is a Triune with three equal members is a raving lunatic. Just saying it as it is.

Study the scripture and let it renew your mind. For us there is one God the Father.

Do not be like those who follow after the wiles of The Devil. He has his hands in all things of the world.

Come out of her…[Read more]

]]> c3db9c19bc02d1893a111cdb4e49760a Proclaimer replied to the topic Mystery of the Jews in the forum Prophecy http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/mystery-of-the-jews/page/3/#post-799508 Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:44:40 +1200

Thanks for the share @DavidL, a very interesting video and very challenging and worth praying about.

It took me three attempts to watch this and I fell asleep through parts of it, but in all, it I could tell this was a thorough study. I have watched other videos from the main teacher in this video and he always does…[Read more]

]]> 2e52e849f57fe228788543ffc9189237 Proclaimer replied to the topic Mystery of the Jews in the forum Prophecy http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/mystery-of-the-jews/page/3/#post-799508 Sat, 13 Jun 2015 10:44:40 +1200

Thanks for the share @DavidL, a very interesting video and very challenging and worth praying about.

It took me three attempts to watch this and I fell asleep through parts of it, but in all, it I could tell this was a thorough study. I have watched other videos from the main teacher in this video and he always does…[Read more]

]]> 9dcfb00c5e0447948d954af335fb0ede Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/230/#post-799254 Tue, 09 Jun 2015 02:36:27 +1200 @DavidL

Correction: I contest you because you use the words of Christ to promote your own teaching..
which is based on human logic – and not revelation..
you do here what all false teachers do – bend the Scriptures to fit your own concepts..

John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you hav…[Read more]

]]> 4c6a1e84e5879aca4d241c0495ed2861 Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/#post-799254 Tue, 09 Jun 2015 02:36:27 +1200 @DavidL

Correction: I contest you because you use the words of Christ to promote your own teaching..
which is based on human logic – and not revelation..
you do here what all false teachers do – bend the Scriptures to fit your own concepts..

John 17:3
Okay, now is the time for you to explain why Jesus words here do not mean what they say…[Read more]

]]> 5d0dca5d0382b98d7b864d0050912130 Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/#post-799254 Tue, 09 Jun 2015 02:36:27 +1200 @DavidL

Correction: I contest you because you use the words of Christ to promote your own teaching..
which is based on human logic – and not revelation..
you do here what all false teachers do – bend the Scriptures to fit your own concepts..

Okay, now is the time for you to explain why Jesus words here do not mean what they say.

Show us how to…[Read more]

]]> 0a440bf30c06d4edf4a7a3a5ed7da31a Proclaimer replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine - The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/development-of-the-trinity-doctrine-the-trinity-doctrine/page/3/#post-799176 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 22:53:10 +1200 In this topic @DavidL, videos holds no weight if the idea is contrary to scripture.

We want to see it in scripture before we even consider the possibility that it could be correct.

Scripture says that for us, there is one God the Father.

We need proof that this is wrong.

Repetition of a lie, doesn’t magically make it true after a…[Read more]

]]> c01cf67a8d558ce2a8ec14142054f3b2 bodhitharta replied to the topic The image of God in the forum Truth or Tradition http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-image-of-god/page/3/#post-798388 Sun, 24 May 2015 22:02:14 +1200 HI @DavidL

“No man has seen God at any time; The Only Begotten God Who is in the bosom of The Father, he has declared him.” – Aramaic Bible

That’s even again a different entire structure but what’s more if you are a begotten God then you were not always God, right?

]]> 3ed5556ad4b0d08e2a77e530a827c0ef UMB5 replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine - The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/development-of-the-trinity-doctrine-the-trinity-doctrine/page/2/#post-798186 Thu, 21 May 2015 20:06:00 +1200 @Davidl

Would you please share your understanding of the following scripture:

This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.</span>

I have seen T8 give you this scripture over and over but I don’t believe I have seen you responded or address it. I am curious to what you find this scripture…[Read more]

]]> 42c1b18fbc1be84f2f0e5e02467ea979 UMB5 replied to the topic Development of the Trinity Doctrine - The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/development-of-the-trinity-doctrine-the-trinity-doctrine/page/2/#post-798186 Thu, 21 May 2015 20:06:00 +1200 @Davidl

Would you please share your understanding of the following scripture:

<span style=”color: #ff0000;”>This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.</span>

I have seen T8 give you this scripture over and over but I don’t believe I have seen you responded or address it. I am curious…[Read more]

]]> a836b3c3f9c5eab9ef9d2ccef5242136 bodhitharta replied to the topic DavidL and Bodhitharta discuss trinity in the forum Debates http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/davidl-and-bodhitharta-discuss-trinity/#post-798171 Thu, 21 May 2015 17:21:36 +1200 @DavidL

All Three members of the Godhead can be seen as God individually..

But within the trinity the Father is Head..

Thus He is the God of Christ..

So, would it be agreeable then that God whom you call the Father is “God Most High”?

You do agree that while Christ has a God, the Father has no God for He is The Most High, is that correct?

]]> ca57dce09c8a32f1c3336bfea2e81440 bodhitharta replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/revelation-18/page/2/#post-798163 Thu, 21 May 2015 15:30:29 +1200 @DavidL

Perhaps you missed the opening of the chapter where it says:

Rev1:1 Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him, to shew to his bondmen what must shortly take place; and he signified , sending by his angel, to his bondman John,

This says that God gave this to Jesus Christ, what does that mean to you? Now keep in mind it doesn’t…[Read more]

]]> c5643615aeea12035e9f442c8f88b4e7 bodhitharta replied to the topic The image of God in the forum Truth or Tradition http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-image-of-god/#post-798159 Thu, 21 May 2015 15:13:35 +1200 @DavidL

“..the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

He existed as the image of God – He existed as God.

He is another (the Son) – He is the same (I and the Father are One)

“The Father is Greater than I”

Let go of your obsession with third century doctrine and believe what Scripture says..

Ye worship ye know not what: we know what [Read more]

]]> 838000afe4c4a382138eeb8d9ecc06fa Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 22:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/revelation-221/#post-797936 Tue, 19 May 2015 06:01:33 +1200

“..the throne of God and of the Lamb.”

Seriously @DavidL, read on (again). Who sits on Jesus throne? One? two? many?

To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.

Do you continually need to be corrected? Can you not let the Spirit of truth gui…[Read more]

]]> 3a327f5b7fa6e2f62010cbaa67009778 Proclaimer replied to the topic An Apostasy - The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/an-apostasy-the-trinity-doctrine/page/4/#post-797913 Tue, 19 May 2015 04:31:27 +1200 For us there is one God the Father, and one Lord the Lord Jesus Christ.

Are you one with us @DavidL ?

]]> 0fc4fbaea673d197c9e740c5058ffa65 Proclaimer replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? - The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-and-what-is-jesus-the-trinity-doctrine/page/11/#post-797853 Mon, 18 May 2015 23:12:05 +1200 @DavidL

“I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE.” – try confessing that one…!!!!

I confess that Jesus and the Father are one. I also confess that we can be one and one with both the Father and the Son.

Can you confess our oneness I wonder?

]]> 6a2bdf6d2f86724c8c37b023bf8ca08d bodhitharta replied to the topic DavidL and Bodhitharta discuss trinity in the forum Debates http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/davidl-and-bodhitharta-discuss-trinity/#post-797820 Mon, 18 May 2015 20:41:56 +1200 @DavidL
When asked who God is your answer is that God is Jesus, Jehovah and The Holy Spirit so although there is this United Membership there is no God as in there being only One Member, would that be correct?

I’m just trying to be very clear so that we can progress in our understanding of each others view point, so would you say there is no G…[Read more]

]]> a5cf07cdd1b69e05c458e35836687041 bodhitharta replied to the topic Does Religion Cause All Wars? in the forum Faith http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-religion-cause-all-wars/#post-797686 Sun, 17 May 2015 15:56:40 +1200 @DavidL

Very good point about Cain

@t8

The orthodox Jews called Hitler the agent of divine wrath but also many who hold high the Christian banner has done horrible things and while we can say it is not acceptable to us we can not simply accuse them of not being Christians because ultimately people have to work out their own salvation with fear…[Read more]

]]> c28d82c0e9cc630cec537b1ebd74276a bodhitharta replied to the topic Does Religion Cause All Wars? in the forum Faith http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-religion-cause-all-wars/#post-797686 Sun, 17 May 2015 15:56:40 +1200 @DavidL

Very good point!

@t8

The orthodox Jews called Hitler the agent of divine wrath but also many who hold high the Christian banner has done horrible things and while we can say it is not acceptable to us we can not simply accuse them of not being Christians because ultimately people have to work out their own salvation with fear and…[Read more]

]]> 2dd408afe5a8163102570dc0471ff9ad bodhitharta replied to the topic You do not OWN The GOD of ISARAEL in the forum Faith http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/you-do-not-own-the-god-of-isarael/page/2/#post-797390 Wed, 13 May 2015 21:02:00 +1200 @DavidL

How do you stand with this verse then bd..?

“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” – John 3:36

This is totally true within the context in which it if stated outside of that context it can be more available for discussion, the c…[Read more]

]]> cf89f68e91a5f36cf2e5a20892e449dc Proclaimer replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? - The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-and-what-is-jesus-the-trinity-doctrine/page/10/#post-796929 Sat, 09 May 2015 12:51:15 +1200 @DavidL
Jesus as the son of the living God and the messiah is a sure foundational truth that you can build your faith upon.
But if you build upon another foundation, your works will fall when that foundation falls and all foundations not of God will crumble.

Trust in the words of Peter when he said, “You are the son of the Living God and the…[Read more]

]]> 24058b49c2e9c02f04fc08e325a302d8 Proclaimer replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? - The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-and-what-is-jesus-the-trinity-doctrine/page/10/#post-796928 Sat, 09 May 2015 12:40:42 +1200 @DavidL

If you are a son of God, then if you told me you were God, then you would not by your definition be a son of God right.
Its the same simple truth with Jesus Christ. He is the son of God, so therefore he is not God, but his son.
He is the one that God made both Lord and Christ.
How about confessing that now. All will do that eventually.…[Read more]

]]> 92f5e041ffb2c8431f7864712ac137b5 Proclaimer replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? - The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-and-what-is-jesus-the-trinity-doctrine/page/10/#post-796928 Sat, 09 May 2015 12:40:42 +1200 @DavidL

If you are a son of God, then if you told me you were God, then you would not by your definition be a son of God right.
Its the same simple truth with Jesus Christ. He is the son of God, so therefore he is not God, but his son.
He is the one that God made both Lord and Christ.
How about confessing that now. All will do that eventually.…[Read more]

]]> 24058b49c2e9c02f04fc08e325a302d8 Proclaimer replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? - The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-and-what-is-jesus-the-trinity-doctrine/page/10/#post-796928 Sat, 09 May 2015 12:40:42 +1200 @DavidL

If you are a son of God, then if you told me you were God, then you would not by your definition be a son of God right.
Its the same simple truth with Jesus Christ. He is the son of God, so therefore he is not God, but his son.
He is the one that God made both Lord and Christ.
How about confessing that now. All will do that eventually.…[Read more]

]]> 193e34d5b907a97f3397de705875c945 bodhitharta replied to the topic Supporting the Trinity Doctrine? - The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/supporting-the-trinity-doctrine/page/41/#post-795406 Wed, 22 Apr 2015 22:36:39 +1200 Hi t8

@DavidL. Your view of being one with God means that you cannot be one with God as that would be blasphemy in your eyes.

You poor fellow. I am allowed to be one with God, but you are not by reason of your doctrine which you believe.

So how can I trust the words of a man who does not believe he can be one with God?

your doctrine is equal…[Read more]

]]> 6af539ffaf039560b2eda72d138c0461 Proclaimer replied to the topic Supporting the Trinity Doctrine? - The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/supporting-the-trinity-doctrine/page/41/#post-795402 Wed, 22 Apr 2015 22:23:22 +1200 @DavidL. Your view of being one with God means that you cannot be one with God as that would be blasphemy in your eyes.

You poor fellow. I am allowed to be one with God, but you are not by reason of your doctrine which you believe.

So how can I trust the words of a man who does not believe he can be one with God?

]]> a47565eb8dc6be6ddd75a3e164302321 Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/229/#post-795399 Wed, 22 Apr 2015 22:12:40 +1200 @DavidL. Hopefully you are one with God and Jesus as Jesus prayed that we should.

But if this oneness makes you God as you claim, THEN YOU CANNOT BE ONE WITH GOD.

You have been caught out in your own craftiness DavidL.

Either way you have lost your point because from your standpoint, you are either not one with God, or you are and that makes…[Read more]

]]> f653a17960a3eab7ad1cee0eb4ae2bf7 Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/#post-795399 Wed, 22 Apr 2015 22:12:40 +1200 @DavidL. Hopefully you are one with God and Jesus as Jesus prayed that we should.

But if this oneness makes you God as you claim, THEN YOU CANNOT BE ONE WITH GOD.

You have been caught out in your own craftiness DavidL.

Either way you have lost your point because from your standpoint, you are either not one with God, or you are and that makes…[Read more]

]]> 9a9bd47be32486620859b8b190cb665d Proclaimer replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? - The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-and-what-is-jesus-the-trinity-doctrine/page/8/#post-795026 Mon, 20 Apr 2015 05:25:47 +1200 @DavidL

How about – Let’s be honest..!!

To be frank is to be honest about the situation or your opinions.
But being honest DavidL would be great. I welcome it. Honesty would allow much progress.
So let’s be honest about the following to start with.

There is one God the Father right?
Not according to you. To you there is one God the Father, Son…[Read more]

]]> e4c463a179a88d723c37d95f65464ade Proclaimer replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/testing-the-trinity/page/36/#post-795025 Mon, 20 Apr 2015 05:21:33 +1200 @Davidl

Scripture speaks of the Son as God, the Spirit as God, and the Father as God

Why do you ignore that it also calls the sons of God and theos and angels as elohim?

Further, even Satan is called a theos.

Just because others are called or described as theos does not mean the Trinity is so DavidL. Is the Devil or the Judges of Israel part of…[Read more]

]]> 9e96d7af2805cdfc0f7b2528674bc337 bodhitharta replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/testing-the-trinity/page/34/#post-794521 Fri, 17 Apr 2015 20:44:15 +1200 @DavidL

Do you believe in the father of God?

]]> d9bdbb467bab993fd210d0e6eb59aad5 Proclaimer replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/testing-the-trinity/page/32/#post-794296 Thu, 16 Apr 2015 00:51:46 +1200 @DavidL

If Jesus is God and the son of God, then by reason of the Trinity Doctrine, the Father who is also God (I agree) must then be the Father of God.

One God three persons basically says:

God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit
&
The Father of God
The Son of God
The Spirit of God.

Why is the Father not the Father of God if all…[Read more]

]]> a188bd0eb4f5faee3bd80804575d75f8 Proclaimer replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/testing-the-trinity/page/32/#post-794294 Wed, 15 Apr 2015 23:59:50 +1200

t8 uses a lot of stolen arguments to bolster his false doctrine…he takes this verse (out of context) because it is the same one Arius used to try and deny the trinity centuries ago..

@DavidL, are you aware that the measure you judge is the same that you will be judged by. You say that I steal Arius’s argument.

Please list exactly the argument I…[Read more]

]]> 5adfc8c1d39fbfdfd6713f68a8bbbb4b Proclaimer replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/testing-the-trinity/page/31/#post-794285 Wed, 15 Apr 2015 23:15:19 +1200 @DavidL

Bod has a good point above.

The Trinity Doctrine is wrong and leads to other false assumptions DavidL.

]]> 8a3ccc36792f5e30072c4d3acf4b95d7 Proclaimer replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/testing-the-trinity/page/31/#post-794285 Wed, 15 Apr 2015 23:15:19 +1200 @DavidL

Bod has a good point above.

Additionally, if Jesus is God and the son of God, then by reason of the Trinity Doctrine, the Father who is also God (I agree) must then be the Father of God.

One God three persons basically says:

God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit
&
The Father of God
The Son of God
The Spirit of God.

Why is the…[Read more]

]]> 89001b18d3a252c0194e4016ce0d7c26 Proclaimer replied to the topic Who and what is Jesus? - The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-and-what-is-jesus-the-trinity-doctrine/page/7/#post-794070 Tue, 14 Apr 2015 10:31:41 +1200 It is persecution @DavidL. Because you oppose me for believing that the Father is the one true God and that He sent another, his son into the world.

Every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the Glory of God. And we believe that the is the messiah and son of God. But you believe that he is God and that God died. Rather, this God is…[Read more]

]]> 2457b7f8ff453e3bb9418ea054112e79 Proclaimer replied to the topic Testing the Trinity in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/testing-the-trinity/page/31/#post-794069 Tue, 14 Apr 2015 10:12:45 +1200

DavidL,

You contradict yourself constantly about reasoning and so I get the idea you have no idea what you are speaking of. You cannot compare two scriptures to each other unless you use reasoning.

Paul is recorded as reasoning using Scriptures in Acts 17:2. You have lied repeatedly and it is necessary for you to realize this is so in order for…

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]]> 489fd0b982ddffc0fa18e59e35e01305 bodhitharta replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-your-confession-regarding-jesus-2/page/31/#post-793831 Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:56:15 +1200 @DavidL

You keep saying that John 1:1 represents Genesis also, right?

So here is the question: Does God have a beginning?

Because in both John and Genesis it talks about the beginning of something and although I am certain 100% it is the beginning of different things and that John and Genesis have nothing to do with each other…God wants me to…[Read more]

]]> 90ba604d02bd3b9e009123f8a340faff Proclaimer replied to the topic John 18:5-6 in the forum Truth or Tradition http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-185-6/page/9/#post-792977 Mon, 06 Apr 2015 01:19:28 +1200 @DavidL, reading and teaching what scripture teaches may or may not be logical from our understanding. But it is true and we should love the truth.

“For us, there is one God the Father”. Yes there is a certain logic to that when I think about it, but more importantly, it is true.

I teach these scriptures. In many cases, I am really just quoting…[Read more]

]]> 8d7e8233b5906d2ae2495fa42594b9f4 Proclaimer replied to the topic John 18:5-6 in the forum Truth or Tradition http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-185-6/page/9/#post-792977 Mon, 06 Apr 2015 01:19:28 +1200 @DavidL, reading and teaching what scripture teaches may or may not be logical from our understanding. But it is true.

“For us, there is one God the Father”. Yes there is a certain logic to that when I think about it, but more importantly, it is true.

I teach these scriptures. In many cases, I am really just quoting them. So attacking me over…[Read more]

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