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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:37:39 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it also says that when we see him Jesus as he really is we will be like him.So many are waiting for a physcial return and so never change and experince the great indwelling of Gods presence and all that comes with that.Becoming one with God just as the man Jesus was one with God and just as his Fayher worked through Jesus he will now work&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-141418"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-problem-with-trinity/page/7/#post-280157" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:37:14 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be a good idea to not take one scripture and try to make a picture out of it that it is not really painting.In the above taking these scriptures to say Jesus created all things in the sweet by and by at first looks like it may be a good idea to support the way we have been told it must have been. When in truth we must take all scripture as&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-158937"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-problem-with-trinity/page/6/#post-280083" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:04:52 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Feb. 23 2012,07:31--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2012,07:31)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi CD, This is a worldly forum so you will find every attitude apparent in the world.Some are only here to throw stones from their religious towers. But it is far better than it was two years ago.  Most now are sincere seekers keen to learn.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Hey NickSounds good brother.I like it when brothers can and do live&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-158935"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-problem-with-trinity/page/6/#post-280065" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:22:41 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Fact I will say you can know all the great mystries of the kingdom and treat your brother badly and find your self in the bread line. There are many here who just because they disagree about something think they have the right to say very rude and cutting remarks to another as if they are not related. Well in some cases that may be true. But&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-158933"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-problem-with-trinity/page/6/#post-280063" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:05:29 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ShimmerI have been doing this for a long time.There is nothing you could say to harm me.I take some things others say into considaration but only do what I hear my Father say do.I have been waiting for nearly 30 years for the times we are in now when i could have been doing many other things.I am more then up to the task I really can do all things&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-158931"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-problem-with-trinity/page/6/#post-280061" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic  in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:16:23 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree a very good answer Nick.I have been thinking on sticking around seems there are a few who are truly His and it may be a place to hang out for a season we will see. My only real concern was time and not to be wasting it. I guess if there is even one who is really his and we could be of help it is worth the effort. We will see.Any&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-179533"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-of-god-created-all/page/5/#post-280030" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:57:52 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-shimmer+Feb. 22 2012,22:17--><b>Quote</b> (shimmer @ Feb. 22 2012,22:17)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-cavedave+Feb. 22 2012,12:03--><b>Quote</b> (cavedave @ Feb. 22 2012,12:03)<!--QuoteEBegin-->You know what I really dont see the point. Forums seem to be mostly a waste of time. I think I could find better ways to spend it. You all have a nice day.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Cavedave.  There is some posters here who you need to IGNORE.  The way they treat you, it has happened so many times I g&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-171773"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-problem-with-trinity/page/5/#post-280027" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:07:48 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what Ed i believe i understood it perfectly. And I also have better things to do then to argue with people who are ever hearing and never learning. I believe it was a mistake to come on this forum there is always someone waiting to poke you in the eye and of course all in the name of God.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:03:09 +1300</pubDate>

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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:16:20 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Wakeup+Feb. 22 2012,08:09--><b>Quote</b> (Wakeup @ Feb. 22 2012,08:09)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-cavedave+Feb. 22 2012,04:50--><b>Quote</b> (cavedave @ Feb. 22 2012,04:50)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-terraricca+Feb. 22 2012,04:16--><b>Quote</b> (terraricca @ Feb. 22 2012,04:16)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-cavedave+Feb. 22 2012,10:52--><b>Quote</b> (cavedave @ Feb. 22 2012,10:52)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-terraricca+Feb. 22 2012,02:29--><b>Quote</b> (terraricca @ Feb. 22 2012,02:29)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-cavedave+Feb. 22 2012,09:12--><b>Quote</b> (cavedave @ Feb. 22 2012,09:12)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Many are looking for the kingdom in the wrong places.Jesus said the kingdom was with in us. Everthing on the out side all we&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-208548"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-of-god-created-all/page/4/#post-279902" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:38:03 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>terrariccaI believe if you would listen to brother Nick in the above post and look at the scriptures he put up you would find that it is God Himself trying to get you to see something in all we are saying to you. I could not say it better then the scriptures he has listed. It does not matter all that God has done in my life can only be a witness&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-208540"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-of-god-created-all/page/4/#post-279869" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:04:21 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-terraricca+Feb. 22 2012,04:37--><b>Quote</b> (terraricca @ Feb. 22 2012,04:37)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-cavedave+Feb. 21 2012,14:35--><b>Quote</b> (cavedave @ Feb. 21 2012,14:35)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-terraricca+Feb. 20 2012,08:37--><b>Quote</b> (terraricca @ Feb. 20 2012,08:37)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Marlin1+Feb. 20 2012,15:28--><b>Quote</b> (Marlin1 @ Feb. 20 2012,15:28)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Cavedave,<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->Many times we make things far more diffacult then they need to be. God is Spirit and there is now where you can go and be away from Him. So many think as Gods Spirit as somethingHe&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-171761"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-problem-with-trinity/page/5/#post-279865" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:50:30 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-terraricca+Feb. 22 2012,04:16--><b>Quote</b> (terraricca @ Feb. 22 2012,04:16)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-cavedave+Feb. 22 2012,10:52--><b>Quote</b> (cavedave @ Feb. 22 2012,10:52)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-terraricca+Feb. 22 2012,02:29--><b>Quote</b> (terraricca @ Feb. 22 2012,02:29)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-cavedave+Feb. 22 2012,09:12--><b>Quote</b> (cavedave @ Feb. 22 2012,09:12)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Many are looking for the kingdom in the wrong places.Jesus said the kingdom was with in us. Everthing on the out side all we can see with our eyes are pictures of spritural truth and the the truth&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-208536"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-of-god-created-all/page/3/#post-279860" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:56:21 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+Feb. 22 2012,02:32--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 22 2012,02:32)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi T,They were carnal men till he died and they were given the Spirit.The Spirit teaches but not according to the natural mind.Be transformed by the renewal of your mind<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Hello NickI precieve there is wisdom in them there words.You dont say a lot brother but the little I have read seems good to me.Thank You.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:52:27 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-terraricca+Feb. 22 2012,02:29--><b>Quote</b> (terraricca @ Feb. 22 2012,02:29)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-cavedave+Feb. 22 2012,09:12--><b>Quote</b> (cavedave @ Feb. 22 2012,09:12)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Many are looking for the kingdom in the wrong places.Jesus said the kingdom was with in us. Everthing on the out side all we can see with our eyes are pictures of spritural truth and the the truth is Christ and Christ is now in us. Or as Paul said unless you fail the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-208531"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-of-god-created-all/page/3/#post-279844" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:12:52 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many are looking for the kingdom in the wrong places.Jesus said the kingdom was with in us. Everthing on the out side all we can see with our eyes are pictures of spritural truth and the the truth is Christ and Christ is now in us. Or as Paul said unless you fail the test.If Christ is in you then so is all of the kingdom of God and all that it is&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-208526"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-of-god-created-all/page/3/#post-279835" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:40:29 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-shimmer+Feb. 21 2012,22:02--><b>Quote</b> (shimmer @ Feb. 21 2012,22:02)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-cavedave+Feb. 21 2012,23:17--><b>Quote</b> (cavedave @ Feb. 21 2012,23:17)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Ed J+Feb. 21 2012,17:42--><b>Quote</b> (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2012,17:42)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi CaveDave,What did you see, and what did you here?God blessEd J (<a href="http://bible.worthwhile.com/bible.php?b=josh&amp;c=22&amp;v=34&amp;d=22&amp;w=34" rel="nofollow ugc">Joshua 22:34</a>)	<a href="http://www.holycitybiblecode.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.holycitybiblecode.org</a><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Paul said in 2 Cor 12: 1 that what he seen and heard was inexpressible that is why I know what he was talking about.That is also&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-208524"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-of-god-created-all/page/3/#post-279830" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 11:24:37 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-kerwin+Feb. 21 2012,19:11--><b>Quote</b> (kerwin @ Feb. 21 2012,19:11)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-cavedave+Feb. 21 2012,12:05--><b>Quote</b> (cavedave @ Feb. 21 2012,12:05)<!--QuoteEBegin-->The thing Paul was trying to explain was a being caught up in the Spirit. He could not tell if he had left his physcial body or not. It was because the experince was so real to him. if ever you experince this same thing you will know just what he ment. And you will also know&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-132743"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-of-god-created-all/page/2/#post-279828" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Ed J+Feb. 21 2012,17:42--><b>Quote</b> (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2012,17:42)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi CaveDave,What did you see, and what did you here?God blessEd J (<a href="http://bible.worthwhile.com/bible.php?b=josh&amp;c=22&amp;v=34&amp;d=22&amp;w=34" rel="nofollow ugc">Joshua 22:34</a>)	<a href="http://www.holycitybiblecode.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.holycitybiblecode.org</a><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Paul said in 2 Cor 12: 1 that what he seen and heard was inexpressible that is why I know what he was talking about.That is also why he did not write a book about it. It was and is something you can not&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-132742"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-of-god-created-all/page/2/#post-279827" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Ed J+Feb. 21 2012,17:20--><b>Quote</b> (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2012,17:20)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi CaveDave,Are you suggesting that the Apostle Paulwas speaking of himself in the third person?God blessEd J (<a href="http://bible.worthwhile.com/bible.php?b=josh&amp;c=22&amp;v=34&amp;d=22&amp;w=34" rel="nofollow ugc">Joshua 22:34</a>)	<a href="http://www.holycitybiblecode.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.holycitybiblecode.org</a><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->He may have been or he may have been speaking of someone he knew. My point was I know these things from the same stand point. I could tell you I had the same&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-132738"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-of-god-created-all/page/2/#post-279812" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic  in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD?</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:05:05 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing Paul was trying to explain was a being caught up in the Spirit. He could not tell if he had left his physcial body or not. It was because the experince was so real to him. if ever you experince this same thing you will know just what he ment. And you will also know that heavenly things can not be explained to others they have to be&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-132736"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-of-god-created-all/page/2/#post-279804" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:11:12 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Lightenup+Feb. 21 2012,15:12--><b>Quote</b> (Lightenup @ Feb. 21 2012,15:12)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Cavedave,I was reading the above post of yours and was agreeing with you until you said that Jesus came in the natural and then the spiritual. I was wondering if you believe in the pre-existence of Jesus before His birth in Mary. Do you?Kathi<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Jesus was a man born of a woman some 2000 years ago. He lived and&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-158818"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-problem-with-trinity/page/4/#post-279799" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:35:40 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-terraricca+Feb. 20 2012,08:37--><b>Quote</b> (terraricca @ Feb. 20 2012,08:37)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Marlin1+Feb. 20 2012,15:28--><b>Quote</b> (Marlin1 @ Feb. 20 2012,15:28)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Cavedave,<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->Many times we make things far more diffacult then they need to be. God is Spirit and there is now where you can go and be away from Him. So many think as Gods Spirit as somethingHe does as an after thought. Many things are written to those with limited&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-158815"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-problem-with-trinity/page/4/#post-279662" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:46:28 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello EdDid not write it to stump you. In fact I was not thinking of any body in a personal way at all. And as far as english being my first lanuage I would have to agree with you. I do the best I can with what i have you have the God of all grace in you I would hope He would help you I am sure just ask Him.</p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic The problem with trinity in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 12:59:06 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many times we make things far more diffacult then they need to be. God is Spirit and there is now where you can go and be away from Him. So many think as Gods Spirit as something He does as an after thought. Many things are written to those with limited understanding so He gives us pictures and shadows of things and then men do as they always do&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-131460"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-problem-with-trinity/page/2/#post-278913" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic Toronto Blessing in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 22:11:54 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-t8+Feb. 17 2012,06:27--><b>Quote</b> (t8 @ Feb. 17 2012,06:27)<!--QuoteEBegin-->OK this thread is about the Toronto Blessing.Sorry for getting off the subject.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I agree with you brother let us stay on topic. Forgive me also for going over to the side of the road. Thank God for the middle of the road.</p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic Toronto Blessing in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 15:08:30 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Ed J+Feb. 17 2012,00:47--><b>Quote</b> (Ed J @ Feb. 17 2012,00:47)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi cavedave,Did not God create all things via his Spirit?&#8221;<b>And the Spirit of</b> God moved upon the face of the waters. And <b>God said</b>, &#8230;&#8221; (Gen 1:2-3)God blessEd J (<a href="http://bible.worthwhile.com/bible.php?b=josh&amp;c=22&amp;v=34&amp;d=22&amp;w=34" rel="nofollow ugc">Joshua 22:34</a>)	<a href="http://www.holycitybiblecode.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.holycitybiblecode.org</a><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Genesis 3And God said Let there be light and there was light.All I see is the one God who is Spirit doing&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-131171"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/toronto-blessing/page/2/#post-278660" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic Toronto Blessing in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:41:04 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Ed J+Feb. 17 2012,00:26--><b>Quote</b> (Ed J @ Feb. 17 2012,00:26)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-cavedave+Feb. 17 2012,00:16--><b>Quote</b> (cavedave @ Feb. 17 2012,00:16)<!--QuoteEBegin-->No where in scripture does it ever say God the Son<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Hi cavedave,And no-where does it say &#039;Jesus the word&#039;? But it does say &#8220;The Word &#8230; is the Spirit&#8221;. (see Eph.6:17 and see also John 6:63)God blessEd J (<a href="http://bible.worthwhile.com/bible.php?b=josh&amp;c=22&amp;v=34&amp;d=22&amp;w=34" rel="nofollow ugc">Joshua 22:34</a>)	<a href="http://www.holycitybiblecode.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.holycitybiblecode.org</a><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I agree with you no where does&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-131169"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/toronto-blessing/page/2/#post-278657" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic Toronto Blessing in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:16:05 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will also add that I was asked to leave the web site where these videos came from because I would not give in to the idea that Jesus was God. I simply believe Jesus is the Son of God the word of God and our saivor. No more no less pretty simple stuff. No where in scripture does it ever say God the Son and was asked to leave for said belief. And&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-196065"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/toronto-blessing/#post-278651" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>cavedave replied to the topic Toronto Blessing in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 13:45:59 +1300</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-t8+July 05 2011,19:59--><b>Quote</b> (t8 @ July 05 2011,19:59)<!--QuoteEBegin-->I somehow stumbled across these videos and thought that perhaps this topic hasn&#039;t been discussed.Do you agree with the views in the videos or not.What is your take on the Toronto Blessing.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Many things in the videos are not what they seem to be.The maker of the videos has a way that he sees things and desires you to&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-196063"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/toronto-blessing/#post-278644" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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