https://heavennet.net/members/Wispring/activity/ Activity feed for Wispring. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 03:02:33 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 400bad9cf12f05da53f3d173809fac7f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/healings/page/2/#post-359772 Sun, 20 Oct 2013 04:29:26 +1300 Hi everyone,   May God be with you in all you do. I will testify before God and all of humanity that God alone has used me and my spirit as a conduit for God's healing energy/power. I have healed a number of people of physical pains and some psychological issues. I won't divulge these peoples names for reasons of privacy. If you did a little…[Read more]

]]> b27d119ffd3538e6cbdadbab2e1dca5a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/stop-lying-about-it/#post-308519 Wed, 08 Aug 2012 04:31:30 +1200 Hi terraricca,   Quote I personally have many bibles in different languages ,but having study the scriptures so long ,I came to the understanding that it is not so important the version of your bible ,what is more important is the message in it DO YOU BELIEVE THAT MESSAGE ,??? you may have notice that in basics the message never changes in any…[Read more]

]]> e49b5cfc8dfdeb048a17b8ba49ad2dce http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/a-totally-unexpected-discovery/#post-257742 Tue, 06 Sep 2011 03:22:58 +1200 You will probably be waiting a looong time for any kind of response from him in this forum. Stu gave a pretty accurate description of how he posts to this forum. I tried to to have conversation with him and it didn't garner anything productive. Good luck on getting anything productive going with him.

]]> b0b0f163b8fb10b5471fb4f20f0cb1af http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/where-is-god-4/page/3/#post-251178 Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:27:53 +1200 Pierre, My understanding of this issue is pretty much in agreement with t8, shimmer, Kerwin and Istari. They have posted enough scripture for you to see how it is scripturally supported. If you choose not to understand it this way so be it. It is not an issue for a soul's salvation in my humble opinion. I most likely will never again try to…[Read more]

]]> 49102bc54b2f0753740dcecde011a2a8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/where-is-god-4/page/3/#post-251177 Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:02:02 +1200 That is what I meant Kerwin. I see the difference in expression you are making. If I state it the other way I have to use qualifiers such as God is in all things, however, intelligent conscious creatures such as us have the ability to block-out/resist/negate God's presence in us via simple decision making mental processes, whereas, my houseplant…[Read more]

]]> 557f8c83b5e471421e041c80b2516eb5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/toronto-blessing/#post-251176 Wed, 06 Jul 2011 17:47:02 +1200 My take is that these folks are looking for “spiritual experiences” and are not looking to serve God.

]]> 83d8e2f77812448e8cd3dc0b72f1a92d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/where-is-god/page/2/#post-251113 Wed, 06 Jul 2011 05:01:05 +1200 Hi Shimmer and everyone else,Quote He knows every person by name and calls to them. He is in all things – in every atom and element, in every organism and every molecule. He is above all things and in all things – and He lives in you.   Not going to debate this. God revealed to me personally via Holy Spirit/Spirit of Truth that the above quoted…[Read more]

]]> 83d8e2f77812448e8cd3dc0b72f1a92d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/where-is-god-4/page/2/#post-251148 Wed, 06 Jul 2011 05:01:05 +1200 Hi Shimmer and everyone else,Quote He knows every person by name and calls to them. He is in all things – in every atom and element, in every organism and every molecule. He is above all things and in all things – and He lives in you.   Not going to debate this. God revealed to me personally via Holy Spirit/Spirit of Truth that the above quoted…[Read more]

]]> 64be6367320abee6c3b808ae9fa709b1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-simon-the-magician/#post-249477 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 04:40:40 +1200 Hi David, From the stuff you posted it comes to my mind that Simon taught he was either God or the trilogy concept of God in the flesh. Since Christ Jesus taught us God is spirit and must be worshipped in truth and spirit this Simon was evidently a self-glorifying self-deluded man. With Love and…[Read more]

]]> 4bb6646b622b3c5416a96cb341d602bb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-hypostatic-union/page/14/#post-249469 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 04:17:45 +1200 Hi Charles,Quote Yes I will pray for you in order to achieve your aim?Through praying for you I will achieve mine?   I would like you to pray for me with the strength of faith to truly believe in the center of your soul that what you are praying for has already occured or will occur upon completion of your prayer. This is how our lord and master…[Read more]

]]> aac0f1a3d38feef936715c5a637077ab http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-hypostatic-union/page/13/#post-249201 Mon, 20 Jun 2011 03:57:46 +1200 Charles,   You go right ahead pondering and theologizing. When your done I will still be here, being a lover of God and a disciple of Christ. Some of what you post is good. Alot is theological/mental/spiritual rambling. I can see now you are a spiritual seeker. I have been there in my life. I understand. When you finally get back to just keeping…[Read more]

]]> 043cd6b4a5bc52814ff5ea14a2ed03fd http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/group-discussion/#post-248689 Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:11:09 +1200 good idea t8.Another thing that the initiators of these threads that are seeking input from people with the same theological doctrinal position could do is periodically re-post the purpose and scope of the initial post or have a little paragraph as like a p.s. put at the end of their posts so that someone not "up to speed" with the intent of the…[Read more]

]]> da53145c90eeea0bb76f63127fff9c32 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-god-really-from-eternity/page/2/#post-248650 Wed, 15 Jun 2011 06:15:51 +1200 Hi Mike,   I can easily understand how a culture from 5000 years or do so ago would have a different word picture that expresses eternal in a way fairly alien and not in perfect conformance to a modern understanding of eternal. I can easily understand ages of ages to be referring to eternal. By the way a valid modern definition of forever is also…[Read more]

]]> 964be0e7c853c29841758119cd3f48ed http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-god-really-from-eternity/#post-248585 Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:01:51 +1200 Hi Mike,   I believe the Hebrews did have a real concept of eternity. Thier definition of eternal doesn't precisely conform to our modern definition of eternity is what I think is what's going on. To them it is of a time that is at and beyond the vanishing point of the cognitave awareness of events that occur within time that they are aware of…[Read more]

]]> 97c292c55a56f4b8114199d7e25f5af2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/monotheism-belief-in-only-one-god/page/9/#post-248492 Mon, 13 Jun 2011 04:42:28 +1200 Good Post David.

]]> 1a71a8f9a1939a3e08de29bce1ff3808 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-god-really-from-eternity/#post-248491 Mon, 13 Jun 2011 04:19:11 +1200 Hi Mike, Your right. I misunderstood what aforetime meant. I did some further research on the word “oulm” which is translated to english to mean “indefinately lasting” in the NWT. The Strongs has that the word means properly concealed, the vanishing point, time out of mind(future or past) that is derived from a primitive root word “alam” that…[Read more]

]]> 8572a0971b9b94ceed1c347c5e656005 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/examination-of-the-incarnation-doctrine/page/114/#post-248488 Mon, 13 Jun 2011 03:38:40 +1200 Hi Mike,   Right. Please continue to try to convince people via the scriptures that Jesus is not God. It's obvious to some and evidently not obvious to others. You are correct that given that Jesus is not God, worshiping him as God does, indeed, go against the commandment of God. The teaching of Christ Jesus I had in mind was when Jesus tells us…[Read more]

]]> ad4c7568ff8ef5d0b7d5322c4f4d448b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-god-really-from-eternity/#post-248459 Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:56:47 +1200 Hi Mike, Perhaps in your mind they don't. To my mind aforetime or beforetime means from place either where time has no meaning or time has no presence. This qualifies as eternity to my mind. You, of course, can think it about what ever way your freewill leads you. With Love and more love,…[Read more]

]]> b016c5c93c4e6d0902f376e96a77a2ba http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/examination-of-the-incarnation-doctrine/page/114/#post-248458 Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:42:53 +1200 Hi Mike, I implied nothing. I stated the reasoning of an understanding of scripture based from a standpoint of God's word, part of which is prophesies, being fulfilled in the scriptures. I am not one of those Jews living in that spiritually darkened time. I understand spiritual things differently than they did. I will state that is fairly clear…[Read more]

]]> a251ef17da23efca5adf2b96d54d6a76 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/examination-of-the-incarnation-doctrine/page/114/#post-248435 Sun, 12 Jun 2011 05:38:48 +1200 Hi WJ,   Quote Ha Ha! You deride me for committing a “logical fallacy” and yet you attempt to make the argument that ATR was a Baptist and indoctrinated therefore that means his Greek is biased. Do you see the irony of your claim? Paladin said…”What else would you expect from a trinitarian grammarian?”.  It is wrong to attack ATR's Greek by cl…[Read more]

]]> 8b107296686001532b51e38523a54379 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/scientific-quotes/page/4/#post-248375 Sat, 11 Jun 2011 02:32:56 +1200 Hi Stu,   The dogmatic shackles you have in your mind are the ones you put there yourself. Seek and you will find Stu. If you don't seek; you won't find. If you don't believe there is anything to find you won't seek it. I have already communicated to you all I have to offer. I know that a relationship with any living intelligent being is a…[Read more]

]]> 09834d953905bd400a32b0d4cd7ef2bf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/examination-of-the-incarnation-doctrine/page/113/#post-248360 Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:23:52 +1200 Hi WJ,Argument from authority. In this case one who is no longer with us. argument from antiquity. In this case the “the winners” of the theological wars/debates of the early church.   ATR was a member of the Southern Babtist Church. He most certainly was indoctrinated in and held the trinitarian position as the only truth before his formal…[Read more]

]]> 48fdc2b91156f991ee56b59814971947 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-god-really-from-eternity/#post-248339 Fri, 10 Jun 2011 04:26:17 +1200 The Deut 33:27 if fairly descriptive of God existing in and from eternity.Quote Deuteronomy 33:27King James Version (KJV) 27The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them.   The Hebrew word translated eternal here is qedem which my ISA program…[Read more]

]]> 22f6c4bd642bd6177149241e8ab80ffe http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/scientific-quotes/page/3/#post-248280 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 15:25:41 +1200 If you have God in your life while pursuing scientific knowledge and practical application of such knowledge without the shackles of religious dogma that is a good thing for you are still part of the activity ennobles mankind and glorifies God.

]]> 45db6be34df403dfaa54d5181adece53 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-alpha-and-the-omega/page/9/#post-248253 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 02:38:07 +1200 Woops! Evian Water?

]]> b01da4a793eaf2887ef340313ed46cf0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-alpha-and-the-omega/page/9/#post-248252 Thu, 09 Jun 2011 02:27:09 +1200 Evain Water?

]]> fc96c20764d5e3190d53c7053b2218e6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/examination-of-the-incarnation-doctrine/page/111/#post-248217 Wed, 08 Jun 2011 05:48:45 +1200 Hi WJ,   I once again will readily admit I am no expert in the Greek language. To me all the information in all the links I provided is of equal importance. I for one will be using all of them to further my own personal knowledge of the greek language. I think now I should have included in my previous post that it's purpose was to educate readers…[Read more]

]]> 64a49a25db32de8112078e2b24ff3091 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/examination-of-the-incarnation-doctrine/page/111/#post-248153 Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:35:58 +1200 Dear Thread Readers,   I took it upon myself to do my own research via the internet regarding the definition of “perfect tense” in the Greek language. I will present my results and post the links from each source below the presentation.Quote One of the most notable features that Ancient Greek has inherited from Proto-Indo-European is its use of…[Read more]

]]> d46a39e099d4f93171fcaa4c31130b94 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-hypostatic-union/page/13/#post-248102 Tue, 07 Jun 2011 04:22:05 +1200 Hi Charles,Quote Hi wispring,Explain to me in a simple way.Why Jesus felt that it is necessary to massacre the flesh,and not simply having his head chopped??   In order to fulfill prophesy. Quote Psalm 22:15-17King James Version (KJV) 15My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the…[Read more]

]]> b14d566df65109608e77633f19141946 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-hypostatic-union/page/12/#post-248018 Mon, 06 Jun 2011 04:46:34 +1200 Amen to that Tim. Based on my own knowledge and readings I think Charles has read some Essene and Gnostic writings and is incorporating them into his theology. What say you Charles? Have you read how some gnostic christians viewed all flesh as evil and have adopted that view contrary to what our Lord Christ Jesus teaches us in the bible? There…[Read more]

]]> e2fcb8531ae70361bd6bba338ccf9f2c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-alpha-and-the-omega/page/8/#post-247812 Sat, 04 Jun 2011 06:02:58 +1200 Hi BC&JW,  Jason Debuhn has 3 degrees and not one of them is “Theology” persay. Here is are the 2 links I used to discover this information. Took me 2 minutes or so.Wiki InfoJason Debuhn's personal webpage   Regarding the jeopardy show issue the most reasonable answer I could glean from the internet is that it is a powerpoint game called “…[Read more]

]]> 6a383ded68eff0cf03d51c4dc538dd82 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/examination-of-the-incarnation-doctrine/page/108/#post-247458 Tue, 31 May 2011 23:05:33 +1200 Hi Kerwin,   The man was blind, not deaf. Maybe he heard this:Quote John 9:3-5 (King James Version) 3Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. 4I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. 5As long as I am in the…[Read more]

]]> fa0a814f37e7d4be0b751847ea75ed61 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/scientific-quotes/#post-247329 Mon, 30 May 2011 05:29:01 +1200 The great men of science are supreme artists. ~Martin H. Fischer

]]> 8a4e1ce1b5dc26d30640a1c788ed04d7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/scientific-quotes/#post-247328 Mon, 30 May 2011 04:57:18 +1200 Thomas Edison is credited with the saying that “Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration”.   I know where the perspiration comes from. Wonder where that inspirations comes from?

]]> 13d2cf077c3817a676c1405445ef28c8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/examination-of-the-incarnation-doctrine/page/107/#post-247327 Mon, 30 May 2011 04:36:10 +1200 Hi Paladin and Mike,   I have been doing some research on the use of the word para. While it is true that in english the words from and by can mean essentially the same thing, in greek, the “from” meaning is a particular point of departure and the “by” is a frame of reference that means “close to” in physical reality when referring to things in…[Read more]

]]> 253f9b7c680e5f95ff9715ab23850b89 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/test-12/page/5/#post-247312 Sun, 29 May 2011 22:04:34 +1200 hi terraricaQuote try using {color=yellow}hi{/color}     Use “” instead of the “{” and”}” to make it actually work terrarica

]]> 4855dd3f380b8213bd242763afec15bb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/kathy-what-do-you-mean-by-preexisting-sonship/page/4/#post-247309 Sun, 29 May 2011 21:40:47 +1200 Hi Kathi,   I understand that God is not a man, is spirit, invariable and never changes.Quote James 1:17 (King James Version) 17Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.Quote Numbers 23:19 (King James Version) 19God is not a man, that…[Read more]

]]> 1106201337b803eb06dc83714a3dcfd8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-hypostatic-union/page/12/#post-247257 Sun, 29 May 2011 11:17:18 +1200 Hi Tim,   Once again I was not clear enough with the things I posted. I certainly do not believe you do not have the Christ mind or God working and living and guiding you Tim. I believe there is an adversial spirit to God. I have never posted this before because it's not strictly scripturaly based, but, here goes.   I had these thoughts once w…[Read more]

]]> 03306ffce309acdf673fa4a664044882 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-hypostatic-union/page/12/#post-247232 Sun, 29 May 2011 05:31:49 +1200 May God be with you and not the adversary! You know Tim I stated “some” in my post. I should have clarified I am not of the same mind as some. With Love and more love, Wispring

]]> 3c7d81480ac70a8748781247295134a1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-hypostatic-union/page/12/#post-247102 Sat, 28 May 2011 07:55:59 +1200 Charles,   Not so well done on giving a definitive definition of echad. Here is some more scripture with the same word.Quote Genesis 1:5 (Young's Literal Translation) 5and God calleth to the light `Day,' and to the darkness He hath called `Night;' and there is an evening, and there is a morning — day one.Here it is used in context to mean more…[Read more]

]]> 7cd69a4fbc9cbb22ef763379632d3302 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/examination-of-the-incarnation-doctrine/page/106/#post-247082 Sat, 28 May 2011 00:58:12 +1200 Hi Folks,   When God has a word or words within his mind before he expresses them they are uncorrupted. When he communicates them they are uncorrupted. When a human mind recieves them they are uncorrupted. When one human communicates them to another human is the point in the communication process that they can become corrupted. When one person…[Read more]

]]> a6a8ebbb4b0fb707ba638d938d6ffa73 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/theists-and-atheists/page/3/#post-246880 Thu, 26 May 2011 02:57:46 +1200 I bet that Kowalski fellow forgot he posted stuff here.

]]> f68f2ff89d602c92b4064463db3fb907 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/examination-of-the-incarnation-doctrine/page/105/#post-246852 Wed, 25 May 2011 19:56:19 +1200 Hi Irene and Paladin,Quote “There was a man sent from God”Where did God send this man from?   Irene your answer to this post didn't seem, to my mind, to answer the question. My answer is that God sent this man(John the Baptist) from God's own self. My reasoning is that God has sent many prophets. God communicates to his prophets prophesies.…[Read more]

]]> 957dcf9e463d889f50570ef554532dae http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-310-21/page/3/#post-246809 Wed, 25 May 2011 04:39:16 +1200 Quote 1 John 5 1Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: According to this scripture everyone who posts here is born of God.

]]> 3c437f8cca2206c7c3847adf1d78a45f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/like-button/page/2/#post-246796 Wed, 25 May 2011 02:15:19 +1200 My strongly held opinion…I agree the thumbs up icon serves the same purpose as the like button, however, it is not easy to see how many thumbs up icons a post has received if the are not textually grouped together. Is there a script that you can incorporate that shows on the initial post how many thumbs up it has received? If not, no big deal.…[Read more]

]]> 60bae31d9e4e324fefaf130fce18fbf6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/examination-of-the-incarnation-doctrine/page/101/#post-246637 Mon, 23 May 2011 08:57:53 +1200 Hi Thread Readers,   This is my understanding of the scripture being explored here.Quote 1 Peter 2:12-15 (King James Version) 12Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation. 13Submit yourselves to…[Read more]

]]> 16b0120c15799faedd43e5d79caa0faf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/183/#post-246580 Sun, 22 May 2011 20:53:31 +1200 Hi Istari,   Quote No one but the disingenuous or deluded poster would claim that man or woman saw God and yet lived   Actually I am and was being neither disingenuous or deluded. I was being curious. I was not referring to seeing God's face or the image of God. I was asking genuinely about the Isaiah scripture. The best answer I got was from s…[Read more]

]]> 596560621405a19ec8c00eb4718cb7a5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/180/#post-246517 Sun, 22 May 2011 07:01:19 +1200 Istari, I see the image of God in every person I see because we were all created in his image. Go read Isaiah Istari. I am not comprehending he is being talked to or seeing only angels there. Asking meif God is a liar is rhetorical right? God is the truth. There is no lie in the truth. Faith is belief in things unseen. I have not seen God, Jesus…[Read more]

]]> 263f242711dee473400a513946dbc9b1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/firstborn-ofover-all-creation/page/44/#post-265892 Sun, 22 May 2011 06:08:47 +1200 Pierre, Happyman said God inspires, not, God has inspiration. With Love and Respect, Wispring

]]> 308dfe0c21b744ad6d3eae7f0b552305 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/180/#post-246513 Sun, 22 May 2011 05:40:07 +1200 Hi Folks,   I am curious about the “no one has seen God but Jesus” concept simply because I was reading this the other night. I had decided that since Isaiah is referred to so much in the NT it would be good to read it and it has been interesting! Anyways here is the scripture.Quote Isaiah 6:1-5 (King James Version)Isaiah 6 1In the year that king…[Read more]

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