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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Elohim is plural in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:27:04 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-kerwin+Aug. 01 2009,10:21--><b>Quote</b> (kerwin @ Aug. 01 2009,10:21)<!--QuoteEBegin-->TrinitarianCalvinist27 wrote:<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->If all you do is research through Wikipedia then you prove your own ignorance of what is reliable information. A Hebrew Interlinear Bible is more substantial than Wikipedia. Sorry.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->That sounds like you prefer to remain ignorant and are cherry pick one tertiary source over&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-29310"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/elohim-is-plural/#post-139847" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Transcendence versus immanence in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Lightenup+Aug. 01 2009,09:55--><b>Quote</b> (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2009,09:55)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC,And where does scripture tell you that He did not reproduce?Thanks,Kathi<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Kathi,Where it says that Jesus existed in the very beginning.Genesis 1:26-27<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->26 Then God said, &#8220;Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-313342"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/transcendence-versus-immanence/page/12/#post-168019" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:42:53 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathi,Trinitarians never claim that God CAN&#039;T reproduce, we claim that he DID NOT reproduce. We are not questioning God&#039;s ability here, we are merely stating what he did and what he did not do based on what Scripture tells us. TC27</p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Elohim is plural in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:35:40 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-kerwin+July 31 2009,21:42--><b>Quote</b> (kerwin @ July 31 2009,21:42)<!--QuoteEBegin-->If you wish to get somewhat more informed to check out what wikipedia states <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eloah" rel="nofollow ugc">here</a> about the word Elohim instead of embracing outdated notions that did not take into effect the context of word use.If you do not want to do the research then I see no reason to discuss it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Kerwin,If all you do is research through&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-29308"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/elohim-is-plural/#post-139840" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Elohim is plural in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:33:03 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Jodi Lee+July 31 2009,11:38--><b>Quote</b> (Jodi Lee @ July 31 2009,11:38)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-TrinitarianCalvinist27+Aug. 01 2009,05:57--><b>Quote</b> (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ Aug. 01 2009,05:57)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Gene+July 31 2009,07:39--><b>Quote</b> (Gene @ July 31 2009,07:39)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Jodi&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Amen sis, you&#039;ve got It. Elohim simply means Powers and there are Seven Spirit Powers of GOD. This is the &#8220;Let US&#8221; referred to in Geneses , When it says LORD GOD , it simply means LORD (He Exists) GOD (with powers)&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-29307"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/elohim-is-plural/#post-139839" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Jesus is sovereign and therefore, god in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 17:26:53 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone,Why is clear Scripture so hard to see?TC27</p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Elohim is plural in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:57:39 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Gene+July 31 2009,07:39--><b>Quote</b> (Gene @ July 31 2009,07:39)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Jodi&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Amen sis, you&#039;ve got It. Elohim simply means Powers and there are Seven Spirit Powers of GOD. This is the &#8220;Let US&#8221; referred to in Geneses , When it says LORD GOD , it simply means LORD (He Exists) GOD (with powers) Elohim is a uni-Plural word  ONE GOD with Multiple POWERS. The LORD shares these&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-29301"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/elohim-is-plural/#post-139720" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Why is his name jesus? in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:41:46 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-TrinitarianCalvinist27+July 30 2009,08:08--><b>Quote</b> (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 30 2009,08:08)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-thethinker+July 30 2009,06:45--><b>Quote</b> (thethinker @ July 30 2009,06:45)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Everlasting father Jesus+July 30 2009,13:12--><b>Quote</b> (Everlasting father Jesus @ July 30 2009,13:12)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 30 2009,12:11--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 30 2009,12:11)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TT, How do you pray to an impersonal community god?Did the one we follow do so?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Jesus is the community and He is God. Jesus said that no one can be saved except&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-289717"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-is-his-name-jesus/page/6/#post-139552" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 started the topic Elohim is plural in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:39:01 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all,Elohim, is a Hebrew word for God and it is a plural word.Here is a site for information on the Hebrew word &#8220;Elohim&#8221;<a href="http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/Elohim/elohim.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Names_of_G-d/Elohim/elohim.html</a><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin--> The name <i>Elohim</i> is unique to Hebraic thinking: is occurs only in Hebrew and in no other Semitic language. The masculine plural ending does not mean &#8220;gods&#8221;&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-386302"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/elohim-is-plural/" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Why is his name jesus? in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:08:13 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-thethinker+July 30 2009,06:45--><b>Quote</b> (thethinker @ July 30 2009,06:45)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Everlasting father Jesus+July 30 2009,13:12--><b>Quote</b> (Everlasting father Jesus @ July 30 2009,13:12)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 30 2009,12:11--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 30 2009,12:11)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TT, How do you pray to an impersonal community god?Did the one we follow do so?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Jesus is the community and He is God. Jesus said that no one can be saved except they worship Him as The Father. That is why as thinker&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-289715"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-is-his-name-jesus/page/6/#post-139548" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Was the apostle john an idolater? in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:06:45 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all,One God. Three persons of God. NOT HARD&#033;TC27</p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Transcendence versus immanence in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:03:23 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irene, You were so adament about the fact that LORD in all caps in the Old Testament meant something. Then I come back with proof that your interpretations were false and you do not give me a counter response. I will assume that you have no argument on this issue, seeing as what I said makes more sense than you care to admit.TC27</p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Jesus is sovereign and therefore, god in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:52:16 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-942767+July 29 2009,11:45--><b>Quote</b> (942767 @ July 29 2009,11:45)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-TrinitarianCalvinist27+July 30 2009,07:31--><b>Quote</b> (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 30 2009,07:31)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Marty said:<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC27:You say that Jesus did not correct the Pharisees when they indicated that Jesus was making himself equal to God but let&#039;s read these series of verses in context, and see what you think:Quote  Jhn 5:18   Therefore the Jews sought the m&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-311694"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-is-sovereign-and-therefore-god/page/6/#post-139546" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:50:21 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Cindy+July 29 2009,14:12--><b>Quote</b> (Cindy @ July 29 2009,14:12)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Did Jesus not say, that His Father is greater then I.John 14:28  &#8230;. I am going to my Father, cause my FATHER IS GREATER THEN I.  Also inEphesians 4:6 &#8230;.one God and Father of all, who is above all, and in us all.Pretty clear to me that only the Father is greater then the Son.  Whether the Father gave Him all Au&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-311693"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-is-sovereign-and-therefore-god/page/6/#post-139545" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:48:13 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Everlasting father Jesus+July 29 2009,16:35--><b>Quote</b> (Everlasting father Jesus @ July 29 2009,16:35)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-TrinitarianCalvinist27+July 25 2009,05:00--><b>Quote</b> (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 25 2009,05:00)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Anti-trinitarians claim that only the Father is sovereign. Well guess what, in the book of Jude, Jesus is referred to as sovereign.Jude verse 4: <!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->4For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-311692"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-is-sovereign-and-therefore-god/page/6/#post-139544" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:38:10 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 29 2009,11:33--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 29 2009,11:33)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC, So PART of GOD became less than God and yet was God? Give us back simplicity.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,That  is your problem. You expect everything to be simple and when you find something to be slightly complicated (which it isn&#039;t) you throw it out the window. Very sad.  <!--emo&amp;:(--><img loading="lazy" src="http://www.heavennet.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" alt=':(' /><!--endemo--> TC27</p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic A question about jesus in the forum Faith</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:36:12 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 21 2009,08:04--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 21 2009,08:04)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi and welcome pel, Scripture never says so but the JWs do.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,That is a lie. I do not claim that Jesus was an angel. Where do you get this stuff?TC27</p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 29 2009,11:32--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 29 2009,11:32)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC, You have to fall back on weak theology because scripture does not support your ideas? Jesus said he is the Son of God but you ignore him.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,How is that weak theology? It takes knowledge of the Hebrew language to understand Scripture. Apparently my knowledge of the Hebrew is only weak in your opinion&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-240408"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/transcendence-versus-immanence/page/3/#post-167893" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Jesus is sovereign and therefore, god in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:31:37 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty said:<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC27:You say that Jesus did not correct the Pharisees when they indicated that Jesus was making himself equal to God but let&#039;s read these series of verses in context, and see what you think:Quote  Jhn 5:18   Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-308454"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-is-sovereign-and-therefore-god/page/5/#post-139463" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:26:11 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 29 2009,10:55--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 29 2009,10:55)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC, The fullness of deity DWELLED IN JESUS. Yet you think he is that Deity?Do you dwell within yourself? That would make you two.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,You have an elementary way of thinking. Yes, I do dwell in myself. My spirit lives within my body. You have proven nothing.TC27</p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Cindy+July 29 2009,08:57--><b>Quote</b> (Cindy @ July 29 2009,08:57)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-thethinker+July 30 2009,04:20--><b>Quote</b> (thethinker @ July 30 2009,04:20)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Cindy+July 30 2009,03:56--><b>Quote</b> (Cindy @ July 30 2009,03:56)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Gene and thinker&#033;  I am so amazed that some just don&#039;t want to understand no matter what you put in front of them.  God, LORD, Almighty God, Almighty Father, Heavenly Father.  All tittles.  So Jesus the Word, Jesus the Lord, and Son of God&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-240406"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/transcendence-versus-immanence/page/3/#post-167891" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:50:52 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-942767+July 27 2009,20:12--><b>Quote</b> (942767 @ July 27 2009,20:12)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-TrinitarianCalvinist27+July 25 2009,15:23--><b>Quote</b> (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 25 2009,15:23)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-942767+July 24 2009,17:49--><b>Quote</b> (942767 @ July 24 2009,17:49)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC:No, not equal to God:<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->1Cr 15:27   For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under  manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->1Cr 11:3   But I would h&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-305924"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-is-sovereign-and-therefore-god/page/4/#post-139443" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:42:29 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Cato+July 27 2009,10:15--><b>Quote</b> (Cato @ July 27 2009,10:15)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Personally I think Jesus was merely human, not a god, demigod or part of God himself (at least not anymore then all of creation may be concidered part of God).  What Jesus was IMO was an example of what we as humanity can aspire to.  A life of love and service to God and one&#039;s fellows.  I don&#039;t think he was sent to&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-305923"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-is-sovereign-and-therefore-god/page/4/#post-139442" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:40:08 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Gene+July 26 2009,19:15--><b>Quote</b> (Gene @ July 26 2009,19:15)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Thinker&#8230;&#8230;.Scripture says GOD does all things after the council of (His) own WILL, Jesus plainly showed He came (NOT) to do HIS WILL but the WILL of HIM who sent HIM. This show He is under the authority of a higher source them himself. Can&#039;t you even get that? GOD the FATHER is the ONLY SOVEREIGN GOD, no one&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-305922"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-is-sovereign-and-therefore-god/page/4/#post-139441" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:52:40 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-thethinker+July 26 2009,04:32--><b>Quote</b> (thethinker @ July 26 2009,04:32)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-TrinitarianCalvinist27+July 26 2009,23:23--><b>Quote</b> (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 26 2009,23:23)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 26 2009,00:40--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2009,00:40)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TT, Lots of folk are sovereign. Lords, kings etc. Are they all gods ?When will you drop this facile logic??<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,There is a difference between what you say about who is sovereign and what I am saying about who is&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-239330"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-is-sovereign-and-therefore-god/page/3/#post-138941" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:23:44 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 26 2009,00:40--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2009,00:40)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TT, Lots of folk are sovereign. Lords, kings etc. Are they all gods ?When will you drop this facile logic??<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,There is a difference between what you say about who is sovereign and what I am saying about who is sovereign. People cannot truly be sovereign and you know it. In order to be sovereign one has&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-239328"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-is-sovereign-and-therefore-god/page/3/#post-138937" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:31:14 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Gene+July 25 2009,19:08--><b>Quote</b> (Gene @ July 25 2009,19:08)<!--QuoteEBegin-->TC 27&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;if Jesus is sovereign then why did he say he came (NOT) to do His will but the will of HIM who Sent HIM. Sounds to me like the one who sent him is the one who is sovereign not Him. Or have you forgot he said He could do nothing on His own initiative, but what soever he see the FATHER do. And&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-179611"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-is-sovereign-and-therefore-god/page/2/#post-138919" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:03:57 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 25 2009,12:44--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 25 2009,12:44)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TT, LORD means GOD?You have lost touch with sound scriptural understanding.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,What about Isaiah 9:6 do you not understand?Isaiah 9:6<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->6 For to us a child is born,        to us a son is given,        and the government will be on his shoulders.        And he will be called        Wonderful C&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-179609"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-is-sovereign-and-therefore-god/page/2/#post-138908" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 03:23:48 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-942767+July 24 2009,17:49--><b>Quote</b> (942767 @ July 24 2009,17:49)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC:No, not equal to God:<!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->1Cr 15:27   For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under  manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin--><b>Quote</b> <!--QuoteEBegin-->1Cr 11:3   But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman  the m&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-179603"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-is-sovereign-and-therefore-god/page/2/#post-138819" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Was the apostle john an idolater? in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:05:50 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-thethinker+July 24 2009,15:39--><b>Quote</b> (thethinker @ July 24 2009,15:39)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 25 2009,08:05--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 25 2009,08:05)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TT, So when Paul said in 1Cor 8 that for us there is one Lord Jesus Christ it did not apply to you? Why not become one of US?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--emo&amp;???--><img loading="lazy" src="http://www.heavennet.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif" alt='???' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Thinker,The confused face is my expression to everything that non-trinitarians say. None of it makes sense.TC27</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:03:44 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-thethinker+July 24 2009,07:33--><b>Quote</b> (thethinker @ July 24 2009,07:33)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 24 2009,22:58--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 24 2009,22:58)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TT, You speak with those you see. He saw the Lord.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->You don&#039;t see the Father. So how do you speak with Him? thinker<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Thinker,With this statement you put Nick in a box. Good work. :PTC27 <!--emo&amp;:p--><img loading="lazy" src="http://www.heavennet.net/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" alt=':p' /><!--endemo--></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:00:31 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-datguy+July 24 2009,16:22--><b>Quote</b> (datguy @ July 24 2009,16:22)<!--QuoteEBegin-->HI TT, is it that you think Lord means God? I hope that is not the case. Women of the bible commonly refer to men as their Lord. Christ being a son over his own house was made Lord and Christ by God. Acts 2:36..Heb 3:6<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->dg,That is not what thinker is saying. TC27</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:59:18 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 24 2009,15:25--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 24 2009,15:25)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC,Was God made a man and then became GOD again? &#039;While he was here he prayed to God -WAS THAT TO HIMSELF?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,No. Jesus was God while he was on earth, but he was God manifested in the flesh and therefore had the limitations of the flesh. He was fully God and fully man.TC27</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:37:04 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty,You forget that in Philippians chapter 2 it says that Christ humbled HIMSELF. This implies he did it of his own volition. It says that he made HIMSELF nothing. This means it was his choice to become a man. This CHOICE to become a man was possible because of his SOVEREIGNTY. He was sovereign before he became flesh, and when he was exalted, he&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-30643"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-is-sovereign-and-therefore-god/#post-138769" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic The trinity in isaiah 48:12-16 in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:40:01 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 23 2009,13:36--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2009,13:36)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC, You admit you pray to three and now want to say you do not??<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,I never admitted to praying to three gods, I admitted to praying to the three persons of ONE God. You are making this so much more complicated than it needs to be.TC27</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:38:23 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 23 2009,13:30--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2009,13:30)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC, So scripture is wrong when it says Jesus was like us in all ways but sin?Death was entirely different for him and we have no hope of following him?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,I never said death was different for him. I was clarifying the immortality of his spirit. Humans have a soul that lives on after death also. Therefore&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-370255"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/attn-anti-trinitarians-another-us-verse/page/41/#post-138620" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Was the apostle john an idolater? in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:34:14 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 23 2009,13:13--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2009,13:13)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC, Yes he is but the context is greater.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,If you believed in context then you would have to change your beliefs because you take everything out of context all the time.TC27</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:31:01 +1200</pubDate>

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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:27:00 +1200</pubDate>

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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:25:37 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 23 2009,13:23--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2009,13:23)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC, So he did die as men do and his spirit was given up.Make your mind up.He is yet alive as is Abraham by the abiding Spirit of the LIVING GOD<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,I never said he didn&#039;t die as men do. I said that he was immortal and therefore, could not actually die in spirit. You are messing with everything I say. I am&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-370251"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/attn-anti-trinitarians-another-us-verse/page/41/#post-138608" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:22:20 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the previous post I said &#8220;boy&#8221; I meant to say &#8220;body&#8221; sorry about that.TC27</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:20:07 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 23 2009,13:16--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2009,13:16)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC, So he did not die? Scripture says many times that he did.Who should we believe?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,When I say that Jesus did not die, I am not denying his crucifixion and his death. I am merely saying that his boy was killed and that his spirit went to Hades to wait for the resurrection. This means that he is&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-370276"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/attn-anti-trinitarians-another-us-verse/page/40/#post-138603" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic The trinity in isaiah 48:12-16 in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:18:08 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-bodhitharta+July 23 2009,13:00--><b>Quote</b> (bodhitharta @ July 23 2009,13:00)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-TrinitarianCalvinist27+July 24 2009,08:58--><b>Quote</b> (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 24 2009,08:58)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 23 2009,12:42--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2009,12:42)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC,. Yes someone said it is like going to a store and you deal with which ever customer service agent is free at the time. Is this your view too or is your God one?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,That is a terrible analogy. All of my God is&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-225888"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-trinity-in-isaiah-4812-16/page/8/#post-138601" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic The trinity in isaiah 48:12-16 in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:17:16 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 23 2009,13:15--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2009,13:15)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-TrinitarianCalvinist27+July 24 2009,08:58--><b>Quote</b> (TrinitarianCalvinist27 @ July 24 2009,08:58)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 23 2009,12:42--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2009,12:42)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC,. Yes someone said it is like going to a store and you deal with which ever customer service agent is free at the time. Is this your view too or is your God one?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,That is a terrible analogy. All of my God is&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-225887"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-trinity-in-isaiah-4812-16/page/8/#post-138600" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Attn anti-trinitarians: another us verse in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
				<link>http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/attn-anti-trinitarians-another-us-verse/page/40/#post-138596</link>
				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:15:32 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 23 2009,13:05--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2009,13:05)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi WJ, Indeed God did appoint a man to be our Lord and Master and to show us the way.But your God is a mortal man and our God is immortal. Does your god have 3 parts like tt?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,Our God is not a mortal man. You again change everything we say and twist it. Jesus did not die. His body died. He was crucified,&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-370274"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/attn-anti-trinitarians-another-us-verse/page/40/#post-138596" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Was the apostle john an idolater? in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:06:47 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 23 2009,12:41--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2009,12:41)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC, Read from v 9 onwards and you will see that it is God Who is spoken of.We are believers in the Son as a group but it is God we approach.Heb 10.22If you knew you were one with the Son of God why would you worship him as you would be woshiping yourself would you not?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,Why would you tell me to go back&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-241047"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/was-the-apostle-john-an-idolater/page/3/#post-138590" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Attn anti-trinitarians: another us verse in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:00:39 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 23 2009,12:44--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2009,12:44)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC, So the bible is only one of the sources you rely on for truth and you read it according to your doctrinal base? Is that the way God wants us to act?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,Where did I say that the Bible was only one of my sources for truth? It is my ONLY source for truth. I do not read it according to my doctrinal base,&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-370272"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/attn-anti-trinitarians-another-us-verse/page/40/#post-138587" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic The trinity in isaiah 48:12-16 in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:58:28 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 23 2009,12:42--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2009,12:42)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC,. Yes someone said it is like going to a store and you deal with which ever customer service agent is free at the time. Is this your view too or is your God one?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,That is a terrible analogy. All of my God is always free to hear my prayers. My God is one. That is why no matter which person I pray to,&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-265896"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-trinity-in-isaiah-4812-16/page/7/#post-138584" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic Attn anti-trinitarians: another us verse in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:41:25 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 23 2009,12:34--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2009,12:34)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC, But just not IN THE TEACHINGS OF THE BIBLE? Man cannot live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. These words are not found there but you would recommend them as well as life to our souls?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,Yes. And from the mouth of God Jesus was called God.Read Hebrews 1.TC27</p>
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				<title>TrinitarianCalvinist27 replied to the topic The trinity in isaiah 48:12-16 in the forum Truth or Tradition</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:39:37 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--QuoteBegin-Nick Hassan+July 23 2009,12:32--><b>Quote</b> (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2009,12:32)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hi TC,God is THE CULMINATION OF THREE. Must be hard to pray to and worship such an odd concoction. Why the lesson in trinitarian doctrine? Show us scripture. None say God is a trinity but it is a very popular idea among men. Who do you follow?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Nick,Actually it is quite easy praying to my God. I can pray to&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-265894"><a href="http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-trinity-in-isaiah-4812-16/page/7/#post-138576" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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