https://heavennet.net/members/TJStarfire/activity/ Activity feed for TJStarfire. Thu, 23 Apr 2026 15:08:38 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 11e0994204b958ee8b01e55e04946a2e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-are-the-people/page/5/#post-31772 Mon, 06 Nov 2006 00:41:45 +1300 Quote And I never said it was “in” you. And when Jesus said the the kingdom was in the midst or “in” as some translators render it, the pharisees and scribes, he meant that the king of that kingdom was in their midst, as he was that king.I disagree David, It means in you and in me, IN ALLECC 12:7 describes it”Then shall the dust return to the…[Read more]

]]> 9df930635c1ecb5c848779b88e5e700e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/holy-ghost-part-one/#post-31750 Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:34:28 +1300 Once you are to the point where you can stand at the door and Knock the Spirit will communacate with you. There is no mistaking it.

]]> a647111feaae9014a3458ffb9ebfce5d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/14/#post-31749 Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:20:48 +1300 Quote ” It” is not within us until reborn into us. if it is not within us then how would we give up the ghost at death or how would the spirit return to GOD when the body turns to dust?Are you even paying attention to what you are writing down here?

]]> 7bf1f7c1e99233cb79b3b3d9f7f88a09 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-gospel/page/13/#post-31714 Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:38:38 +1300 Does anyone know what the gospels are?The gospels at the time of Christ did not include any writings of the disciples did they?

]]> 7fe489a360ef14b297bc9b6e4033ad11 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/hadeshell/page/19/#post-31712 Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:34:34 +1300 144000 JWs?I've heard of the 144000 who have never known woman but how do they get to be from any one sect?

]]> 8d97c52fa792d2cd258c887f754b6e98 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/14/#post-31711 Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:10:56 +1300 Quote Science fiction? WOW, the whole Bible teaches the theory of worshiping a super natural lord of the spirits.Science Fiction? Well that is a stance that most scientists agree with, they say the Bible is Fiction but I didn’t expect that from you.Numbers 27:16 Let the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the c…[Read more]

]]> beb5a4701912fea21f50d367122db43c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/14/#post-31683 Sat, 04 Nov 2006 04:33:35 +1300 Quote The spirit of a man returns to God at death.Ecc12″ 6Remember Him before the silver cord is broken and the golden bowl is crushed, the pitcher by the well is shattered and the wheel at the cistern is crushed; 7then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it”Yes of course it does and our…[Read more]

]]> bc8cea4148198d04e5937767006d58f1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/14/#post-31682 Sat, 04 Nov 2006 04:22:46 +1300 Quote Matthew 16:28Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.I believe here Christ is using a different meaning of “alive” in the same way as he spoke of Abraham being alive, not physically but in soul and inheritance.I believe that some there transferred…[Read more]

]]> 0bfbbb65da25a5db885b32042c1043c1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/14/#post-31679 Sat, 04 Nov 2006 04:05:31 +1300 Quote 16As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.” I believe there is a lot of that going around, I know a lot of people who claim to be Christians but they refuse…[Read more]

]]> 1fdf54d0a8f3e3b58ae38587ad83916e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/14/#post-31661 Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:34:45 +1300 I don't like thinking the book is full of lies that have to depend on rewording to bring out truths

]]> 8d3ab7ef101af8fcb9bb61f9a338e06c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/13/#post-31660 Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:32:48 +1300 OK, but I would rather follow a theory that makes sense of what is there without re wording everything to fit my wishes

]]> 8f4d9bc1e43784f2f460f269396d814f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/13/#post-31658 Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:09:54 +1300 Quote Now looking at Jn 11John 11:26And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?Yes I believe this and I know how it is a truth as I pointed out a couple of posts back the claim is “shall never die” and “shall not see death”so how can you explain that as a truth (without changing words) or saying they mean something else?

]]> f22d9df11ead37d14625145428790613 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/13/#post-31650 Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:58:28 +1300 Quote Those who are alive in Christ when Christ returns will NEVER see death.Isn't that adding words that aren't there

]]> de11a82ab46e1093758e924577019f26 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/13/#post-31644 Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:16:08 +1300 John 8:51Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.That was a long time ago Nick, so how is this a truth?

]]> 86b7001f8433ee1d841ad29a0e50425a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/love-among-all/page/9/#post-31643 Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:11:32 +1300 The power of reason would then surmise that any person who supports the use of violence against any man turns their back on salvation.

]]> a45ed70b64c656b7bb709cdca0b30dae http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/love-among-all/page/9/#post-31641 Fri, 03 Nov 2006 21:04:04 +1300 I have another question DavidWe are told that for a soldier to be saved he must do violence to no man. SO,How can a true follower of Christ go to war?

]]> 74403bf675e0dd4b28c1d20971e13db3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/13/#post-31639 Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:55:18 +1300 OR unless we can transfer into our spirit body (be born again)Tell me this then how is it that some will not see death?

]]> 687b1ae01341b6a8f51b1dcef14fda34 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/13/#post-31636 Fri, 03 Nov 2006 20:35:23 +1300 Quote So God is a spirit being-Soul and spirit. We can share in that Spirit and become one with each other and with God in Christ.In a way. I have come to believe that, (in the simple version)In our beginning God formed us out of the dust of the Earth He then breathed into us the breath of life attaching a part of Himself to our bodies (sort of an…[Read more]

]]> a790165a3b344b86eeb7fd26f531bb12 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/13/#post-31631 Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:40:05 +1300 Yes and if Jesus was correct, and GOD is a spirit.Then being born again would suggest being born into that form, to my way of thinking anyway.

]]> d09eb02fc9c45f665a4bf673cd349704 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/12/#post-31628 Fri, 03 Nov 2006 19:04:13 +1300 Well if you believe that the angels cast to earth and bound here are another form of being without physical bodies. What is keeping you from believing in the other Spirits being of the same form?Or in the the belief I expressed as to having one of those forms of bodies attached to our physical bodies?

]]> 24ccdc4a38bf8f8081bcf4bfb64a2a31 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/12/#post-31626 Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:30:35 +1300 Then there is alsoGenesis 6:3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.I suggest you look at Matt 27:50 again in a different light, the light of having the breath of life attached to flesh and giving it up at death to return to the creator. Or rather…[Read more]

]]> 1fdb14216c07993792be6a55e6f59e2b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/12/#post-31625 Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:19:09 +1300 And what of those possed by evil spirits and casting out evil spirits?Remember only 1/3 of the Spirits were cast out of Heaven, RIGHT?

]]> ffb7aa06d58735dce9b3bfdf357af5cf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/12/#post-31620 Fri, 03 Nov 2006 15:59:15 +1300 Hi NickYou are right it is from the knowledge we have gained that I mentioned our bodies being of water. Biblically our physical bodies are dust and shall return to dust.However, what do you think Jesus meant in John 4:24God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.If Jesus did not lie and God is a Spirit,…[Read more]

]]> 7420be9bed1a299afc1aae291502f08f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/12/#post-31591 Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:31:26 +1300 Born of the water of which 90% our fleshy body consists ofAnd born of the Spirit which is what GOD is.So naturally being born again would mean transferring into our Spirit body.

]]> 65f244fce41bd4c7f5a28fabc7c7be5e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/eternal-torment/page/7/#post-31555 Thu, 02 Nov 2006 05:49:55 +1300 Eternal terrorism I doubt it what would be the point after a million years or so?Matt 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.I believe that death of the soul will be the same as death of the body.

]]> e9df00e10f862c3769d81ef73ff81104 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-observing-christmas-and-easter-ok/page/3/#post-31554 Thu, 02 Nov 2006 05:41:03 +1300 As to observing christmas and easter.I say any excuse to get out of work and get families together is OK in my book.After all is said and done it is the thought that counts, right?Thinking of wicked things stains the soulThinking of godly things is a blessing

]]> 145a79272b6f35851ff1d5b05daba20c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-observing-christmas-and-easter-ok/page/3/#post-31552 Thu, 02 Nov 2006 05:33:19 +1300 Hi Rose You writeQuote If we wish to try to put Matthew and Luke together we always have a problem as to when the Magi came.I believe the problem comes from the perceptions of two different men neither of whom were present at the time that is being talked about, or rather the source of their information.

]]> 57aef1fc8d5c120b246e8f47400ea1ae http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-great-apostasy/page/7/#post-41018 Thu, 01 Jun 2006 00:24:46 +1200 Quote true enough t8. But, Our love for whom would prove that we are really following Jesus?There is a beter way than love among yourselvesMatthew 5 I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your…[Read more]

]]> d649df41d62a3f2e54405e4f13c027c2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/false-teachers/#post-14334 Tue, 30 May 2006 00:59:37 +1200 Quote Did not Jesus say we must hate our own family to follow him?Matt 10 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he…[Read more]

]]> 1349f512a8d8b6069c52d427cfa1c4d6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/christians-who-kill/page/10/#post-13738 Wed, 17 May 2006 16:02:45 +1200 Proverbs 13 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

]]> 37c1ca1d3b42429ce2f67d9445626134 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/christians-who-kill/page/10/#post-13663 Tue, 16 May 2006 14:38:32 +1200 Violence / non-violence These only become stumbling blocks when mis-interpreted.Too many people think that violence is any use of physical force against another.It is not,the true definition of violence requires intent,the Intent to harm.

]]> cbbb0eec2a96745e2f5f1b4b53622299 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bible/page/6/#post-41964 Tue, 16 May 2006 14:21:04 +1200 Of course why else would one come to places like this?

]]> e73cbebd58aa932ef1f31e0cdece9377 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/spiritual-warfare/page/3/#post-13611 Mon, 15 May 2006 16:53:05 +1200 oops wrong quote in last post.Should have been;Quote How do we demolish these fortresses? Do you really think that this is refering to fortresses made of earth? I don't, I think it is refering to fighting beliefs.

]]> 5f895141782cfa18284b7fba6d238fcb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/spiritual-warfare/page/3/#post-13610 Mon, 15 May 2006 16:49:01 +1200 Quote Of course, The Holy Spirit is still working to cleanse as many as will believe.Do you really think that this is refering to fortresses made of earth?

]]> 48ed48b7c44dfb9cab1a43d64e7e1328 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/love-among-all/page/7/#post-19988 Mon, 15 May 2006 16:40:47 +1200 Of course, The Holy Spirit is still working to cleanse as many as will believe.

]]> 7659fca2b16ee6965f656f90b532641e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bible/page/6/#post-41962 Mon, 15 May 2006 16:32:43 +1200 Quote And how do you tell that it is the Holy Spirit you are listening to? We are told to test the spirits for many false spirits are leading men to destruction. Only the Holy Ghost will enliven scripture for you. For just that reason. The teachings hidden there for centuries have become clear.

]]> 8903cc63b0ce78bf017994cff1ca6983 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/love-among-all/page/7/#post-19986 Sun, 14 May 2006 21:01:03 +1200 Quote Religion is the interface or attempted interface between God and man.Man attempts to make a bridge to God but Christ is the only intermediary and only in him do we have access to God.That is probably true. However, they are not in this part of their universe at present.And the bridge they left for us is called the Holy Ghost.

]]> ac6c17aa450cb4f4eced564e5498b798 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bible/page/6/#post-41960 Sun, 14 May 2006 20:56:28 +1200 Quote We are following a God who has proved Himself throughout history by fulfillment of prophecy and recorded and witnessed events that are beyond natural possibility.And we are to follow the guidance of the Holy Ghost, That is who I rely on.

]]> 3429a33d4383898cb8be03f19865bc5e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/spiritual-warfare/page/3/#post-13578 Sun, 14 May 2006 14:09:42 +1200 Quote “strongly entrenched things”??That has got to be NWT.Why does it have to be?Are beliefs not strongly enternched things?Romans 14 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumbling block or an occasion to fall in his brother's way. I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is…[Read more]

]]> 3b949176ed42c7f4b8db257b9628a359 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bible/page/6/#post-41958 Sun, 14 May 2006 13:53:54 +1200 Quote Some of your historical data is very doubtful but that does not matter.I take into account that a lot of historical teachings mainly the core or esoteric beliefs of religious cults like the Jews or Christians were handed down by word of mouth from teacher to student for long periods of time before some person finally put them into writing.As…[Read more]

]]> c142d8be6d510736b35253d5a124cb73 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bible/page/6/#post-41957 Sun, 14 May 2006 12:49:38 +1200 Quote Is this something we can do?Yes it is, when a person is ready, that means they accept Christ without any reservationsand truly believe in the holy Ghost,A persons faith can and will move their consciousness into their piece of Gods Spirit or their innerself.When you can do this you will get a whole new view of this place and the next.And if…[Read more]

]]> 062ec49557689b2133716d5d32231773 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/love-among-all/page/7/#post-19984 Sun, 14 May 2006 12:34:24 +1200 I agree, and I don't see any one religion that teaches the core beliefs of Christ.and today most religions openly reject that ghosts and spirits can be anything but evil.

]]> 5d217dbaf8025c131ad8627f7ef42676 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/cannot-log-in/#post-13577 Sun, 14 May 2006 12:12:41 +1200 Yep I got the same message as Kenrch almost all day yesterday (the 14th)

]]> 777b73e74aa49f355ec96c2847371c49 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bible/page/6/#post-41953 Sun, 14 May 2006 03:48:22 +1200 Quote The bible, whether or not it is complete, is all the Word of God. It is all written by the Holy Spirit of God through men, and that is why is is so beautiful, so harmonious and resonant with truth.If you cannot yet see this then seek the gift of that Spirit yourself.When/if you can move your consciousness into your spirit, (baptism into the…[Read more]

]]> b30cbac74e2bb700469278998a46e7bb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/christians-who-kill/page/9/#post-13563 Fri, 12 May 2006 16:18:30 +1200 Quote Starfire: It is the same question that I ask you now: How say ye that I preach hatred and another way when I follow Christ's own example?I don’t necessarily say that you yourself preach hatred,I do say that any person who accepts or supports those doing violence to others are not Christians. They are wolves in sheeps clothing.Luke 3 And t…[Read more]

]]> 20c5111793e0eaf103e887e286c23a82 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bible/page/5/#post-41951 Fri, 12 May 2006 14:35:33 +1200 Quote TJStarfire has said the what is left of the bible is only for disputes etc. Who would agree or disagree?Thats not exactly true, but it is close to what I believeThe Bible is a group of verbal and written teachings handed down through time, changing hands through wars and rumors of wars, at times lost then recovered sometimes whole and…[Read more]

]]> bcc9e8cd28108a5852dc03e1c43f6191 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/christians-who-kill/page/9/#post-13562 Fri, 12 May 2006 14:01:57 +1200 Quote Is there any other source of writing to be looked to in comparison or placed authoritatively beside or above the holy scriptures?There have been a lot of written doctrine that was taught before and at the time of Christ which the enemies of Christ did not include in our modern bible. I have taken those all into account even then teachings of…[Read more]

]]> d2e347094263849c6b11859da0dfc624 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/love-among-all/page/7/#post-19982 Fri, 12 May 2006 13:41:28 +1200 Quote No problem. We all have to give answers at times in the wrong forum but then we really have to redirect the thread.Well then I see we need to redirect every post here. I don't see one yet answering this threads question.Which religion actually practices Christianity?

]]> 6e8a7f412de954aef1cc3824d0a04d57 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/false-teachers/#post-13561 Fri, 12 May 2006 13:30:04 +1200 I grew up on a ranch where I learned the quickest way to determine the nature of any beast is to look at its teeth.So now, when I want to know who is of GOD and who is following the fallen I look at their teeth figuratively speaking of courseif they preach peace and harmony among all they have the teeth of sheep, if they accept or preach any of…[Read more]

]]> a175ceba685744aeb80487d50435ed42 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-becoming-new/page/2/#post-13523 Thu, 11 May 2006 15:31:03 +1200 Quote You misunderstand.What I meant is that if you want us to listen to you at least show scripture correctly and show you respect it as truth.I don't use anything out of context, I don't care if anyone listens to me, that is up to the Holy spirit and after two thousand years of being edited by the enemies of Christ the scriptures left in what we…[Read more]

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