https://heavennet.net/members/Sultan/activity/ Activity feed for Sultan. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 285155b80ec74957e00cbe3a64c654f8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/how-is-jesus-not-god/page/41/#post-95719 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:58:48 +1200 Quote (theodorej @ July 03 2008,19:04)Greetings Sultan……God is timeless,limitless and most of all PERFECT in every way…..Every one of the frailties you cited to prove God is limited only support the fact that we are limited…They are all human weaknesses and God is not human….GOD IS SPIRITAll that I listed are not just human frailties.…[Read more]

]]> 11f93ea5f309a57913066839328891d5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/how-is-jesus-not-god/page/41/#post-95208 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:31:40 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 07 2008,22:54)Hi CatoQuote (Cato @ May 08 2008,02:51)If God is the limitless, great unmanifest, all powerful creator of the universe, how does he limit himself and still be God?If God is God, and he is all powerfull, limitless, creator of the universe, how could he not be able to take on human form if he would like?…[Read more]

]]> ced6ebd52e9e0b572c641d04e6d78c1a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/how-could-christ-have-the-possibility-of-failure/page/13/#post-33296 Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:42:57 +1300 WJ, You asked was Jesus born of a woman. What do the scriptures say.But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, (Gal 4:4).

]]> d68547e2f6fef0569cbe60cdeedff45b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/how-could-christ-have-the-possibility-of-failure/page/12/#post-33295 Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:39:18 +1300 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 21 2006,12:30)Quote WJ,What did Jesus say,”I tell you the truth: Among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.” (Matt.11:11). Now we know Jesus is not least in the kingdom of Heaven, but you have to admit this…[Read more]

]]> 42be6116f29ab03e72e21780e83ac1a1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/how-could-christ-have-the-possibility-of-failure/page/10/#post-32789 Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:14:08 +1300 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 20 2006,10:19)Quote WJ,The answer to your so-called riddle is NO. Based on the scripture John the Baptist was filled with the Holy Spirit from his mothers womb. Sorry, but I like to stay with the context, and not twist the Word to conform to a precoceived idea. By the way, did you know that Jesus had to increase in…[Read more]

]]> 44436c428486cbeabc821513ed0122f8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/how-could-christ-have-the-possibility-of-failure/page/10/#post-32761 Mon, 20 Nov 2006 13:28:31 +1300 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Nov. 19 2006,23:14)Quote Hi W,I await your response to the relevance of the anointing of the Son in the Jordan.If he was God why would he be anointed?What further powers or authority could anointing give God?The greater blesses the lesser so how could he be equal with the God who anointed him with His Spirit?Acts 10″38…[Read more]

]]> a3f2ac98c49773236a1f2e50d43db356 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/repentance/#post-32711 Mon, 20 Nov 2006 00:40:27 +1300 Nick,In all of the “So called Churches” repentance is rarely mentioned, and where it is mentioned it is even more rarley practised. If men began to repent and confess their sins (Mark 1:3-5), many would have to step down from their so-called pastorates and get their own homes and families in order. Many prefer to walk in darkness because their…[Read more]

]]> aaea9eae8fc0535531036311c22b1c01 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/3-baptisms/page/21/#post-32589 Fri, 17 Nov 2006 23:00:58 +1300 Quote (Oxy @ Nov. 16 2006,23:18)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 17 2006,00:49)Hi, Well the other one is the folk that say they have made Jesus their Lord and Saviour. Others boast of the powers they show as proof.Sorry folks that is not the way and the ones not properly attired at the wedding feast have no place there. That is as Jesus said Matt 7″…[Read more]

]]> 05af95c97110db0bb477a9c8987e7bbd http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gods-plan-of-salvation-as-revealed-in-scripture/page/25/#post-31826 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:51:37 +1300 Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 07 2006,08:07)Quote (Sultan @ Nov. 07 2006,12:51)Quote (the four horseman @ Nov. 04 2006,18:40)I don't agree with this at all. Being baptized in water doesn't have anything to do with salvation. But it does have everything to do with being obedient. Being baptized by water saves you no more then the baptism of the Holy Spirit…[Read more]

]]> 9d46be95b74c005b2573cd968dc9917b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gods-plan-of-salvation-as-revealed-in-scripture/page/25/#post-31823 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:51:56 +1300 Quote (the four horseman @ Nov. 04 2006,18:40)I don't agree with this at all. Being baptized in water doesn't have anything to do with salvation. But it does have everything to do with being obedient. Being baptized by water saves you no more then the baptism of the Holy Spirit baptism saves you. Lack of either will not keep you from out of…[Read more]

]]> de4643cf32a18c83964305679da6cccc http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-observing-christmas-and-easter-ok/page/3/#post-31657 Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:56:01 +1300 Is is right or is it Biblical? Depending on the question the answer changes drastically.

]]> 483ce746f3a036fef608b18bdf2d0b57 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/which-religion/page/7/#post-31656 Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:54:29 +1300 Here is the only RIGHT religion.Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world. (James. 1:27)

]]> 060112b63a8eb35c3f5603ebf6a0a0b8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-jesus-is-god/page/22/#post-31294 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:56:23 +1300 Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Oct. 25 2006,19:37)worshippingjesus wrote:Quote Blind Leading the Blind! Great! I presume by this comment that you are an enlightened one. That being the case, can you help me with the verse that I asked Is 1:18 about at the end of my post?1 Corinthians 8:5-6:”For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on…[Read more]

]]> 1c526b7f44cad08253711a94edcea3b1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/first-born-of-creation/page/5/#post-31256 Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:03:43 +1300 Quote (the four horseman @ Oct. 24 2006,19:13)I agree. I think Jesus was created ruko.the four horseman,Welcome. Besides what you think. Where does the Bible say that Jesus was created? Please give me the reference so that I can look it up. Thanks.

]]> a7addddaf43961608b6c44645be09516 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-great-deception/#post-31249 Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:01:30 +1300 The greatest delusion is not once saved always saved, but rather being saved in the first place. Those who practice lawlessness demonstrate that no true conversion has taken place, and even some of those who may have signs following (Matt. 7:21-23). Any doctrine of man is a delusion and wicked, but I believe that Satan has blinded the minds of…[Read more]

]]> 94245bee76080facdef760152cb7435f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/3-baptisms/page/18/#post-30611 Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:31:58 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 16 2006,18:01)Hi H,We have only asked for one scripture saying there is a baptism of blood and you have not found one so it seems unwise to proceed to build a grand scheme on this basis without a solid foundation. Then as for altering the meaning of baptism in scripture, when it suits you, to support this baptism.. that…[Read more]

]]> c025a01574ac63d1ebc4688e2b47a7b0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/scripture-seeker/page/8/#post-30199 Sat, 07 Oct 2006 00:45:16 +1300 I believe the real issue here is not whether it's faith and works, but which comes first. The Bible teaches that it requires faith to be saved, but true faith will produce the works of God (i.e. Repentance,baptism). If I truely receive the Word of God, I will by the grace of God be granted repentance. Then there will be the transfer of my faith…[Read more]

]]> eca053695ac70badc1e10ec578b06cfa http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jehovahs-witness-church/page/13/#post-30159 Fri, 06 Oct 2006 07:14:28 +1300 Quote (david @ Oct. 06 2006,02:26)Sultan, Hi.YOu say:Quote Doesn't Jesus tell the apostles that they will have thrones to judge from? Nowhere in scripture are they told that they will be part of the 144,000. You are right that the number of those who would judge wasn't revealed except in Revelation, a word I think means “revealed.”So ya, we have…[Read more]

]]> 9ca4cd3390c9d8652297c763f169043a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jehovahs-witness-church/page/13/#post-30145 Fri, 06 Oct 2006 01:11:52 +1300 Quote (david @ Oct. 05 2006,20:40)Quote But scripture uses the word “virgin” in a different sense. It is to do with faithfullness in the same way as God regards idolatry as adultery.Yes, Paul, Peter, “the apostles,” weren't literal virgins. Most were married.Doesn't Jesus tell the apostles that they will have thrones to judge from? Nowhere in…[Read more]

]]> a7e06382df23f681c749df930700611c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/atonement-for-sins/page/2/#post-30068 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 01:00:15 +1300 Quote (Artizan007 @ Oct. 04 2006,18:30)Hey Cubes,How do you explain the death of Jesus when he was born without sin?2 Cor. 5:21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.Here is your answer.

]]> a066a2baae03f136c12514d354e5b27c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worship/page/15/#post-30062 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:14:36 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 03 2006,15:51)Hi, Is 1.18 says that accepting worship is a sign one is God. Who would agree?The AntiChrist will agree.

]]> 53a73297adacedcfd973a6e2ad38d595 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/deity/#post-30061 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:12:41 +1300 Quote (Is 1:18 @ Oct. 04 2006,14:44)Who was Thomas' God?I hope Thomas' God was the same as Jesus' God.Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.' (John 20:17)

]]> d12ad0f275b7df9e83424b63fe67d25b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jehovahs-witness-church/page/9/#post-29869 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:31:30 +1300 Quote (Is 1:18 @ Sep. 30 2006,14:40)Quote (Sultan @ Sep. 30 2006,13:30)Isa 1:18,You use alot of fancy words (lexical ambiguities), and opinions of men in your posts. You may consider simplifying them so that all can understand, and enjoy your input.Hi Sultan,The posts were primarily for Casey, who has shown a little acumen with lexicography,…[Read more]

]]> 603ed214e7c6644d85697a45e45ea539 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/atonement-for-sins/#post-29864 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:05:41 +1300 Quote (Is 1:18 @ June 29 2004,20:43)Would the crucifixion (and subsequent resurrection) of someone who was not fully-God be enough to pay for the sins of the whole world?YES.

]]> 307077d60a4e52077bd1bf64139a1ca5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/has-anyone-seen-god/page/2/#post-29863 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:00:58 +1300 Quote My take on Joh 6:46 is that it means no one has seen God is all His magesty.Sounds good Isa. 1:18, but it's not what the text says. How can you line the Word up to justify your position. Why not adjust your position and line up with the Word.

]]> 0ef023a211162f3a755c3f8f30983925 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/has-anyone-seen-god/page/2/#post-29862 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:55:20 +1300 Stroshow,You Stated:,Quote If Jesus is not God than YOU have to change the plainmeaning of what the Bible itself says or YOU have acontradiction.You can disagree, but I wanted to be clear on what youare disagreeing with. In the triune God these passagesmean what they say and there is NO contradiction.Yet you still have a contradiction. You quote…[Read more]

]]> 384366cc0a938e787c5b8340731654a2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/3-baptisms/page/16/#post-29861 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:13:18 +1300 Quote (life_of_praise @ Oct. 01 2006,21:06)Hello everyone and God Bless!Not one person here has denied the precious blood of Jesus Christ. 1Jo 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanses us from all sin. It's also obvious that Jesus thought water…[Read more]

]]> 57ed77da41bfed0615d5cfe0001f0d01 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-baptism/page/9/#post-29755 Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:55:48 +1200 Quote (t8 @ Sep. 30 2006,10:15)Quote (Sultan @ Oct. 01 2006,09:47)Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Aug. 05 2006,11:23)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 04 2006,22:29)If you baptize in the name of Jesus only have you been baptized in the NAME of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?No brother. When a man is baptized in the name of Jesus, this is the water baptism.…[Read more]

]]> 54f162d34e54ae54a62adf53406aaa1a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-baptism/page/9/#post-29739 Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:51:18 +1200 Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 04 2006,17:29)If you baptize in the name of Jesus only have you been baptized in the NAME of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?It would seem that way according to the Bible, since Christ gave this command in Matt 28 yet the disciples only baptized in the name of Jesus. According to “H” noone in the book of Acts has been…[Read more]

]]> abe9fb0049f5468d8a9060f3f821baf4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-baptism/page/9/#post-29737 Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:47:42 +1200 Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Aug. 05 2006,11:23)Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 04 2006,22:29)If you baptize in the name of Jesus only have you been baptized in the NAME of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?No brother. When a man is baptized in the name of Jesus, this is the water baptism. When a man is baptized in the Holy Spirit, this is when he is…[Read more]

]]> a8c8feca42cfab5eacd2b4bd67ec5a94 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jehovahs-witness-church/page/8/#post-29719 Sat, 30 Sep 2006 12:30:01 +1200 Quote (Is 1:18 @ Sep. 30 2006,06:15)Quote He is not the Father yes, but He is God. The fulness of deity dwealt within Him.Paul used very clear language in Col 2:9, he did not employ a figure of speech. There are no lexical ambiguities in this verse….Colossians 2:9″For in Him dwells (katoikei) all the fullness (pleroma) of the Deity (theotes)…[Read more]

]]> cad96c85611ac67817d67d4197e4e9a0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-meant-by-born-again/page/12/#post-29683 Sat, 30 Sep 2006 03:33:47 +1200 Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 29 2006,20:47)When they preached repentance what did they preach? They preached Jesus. The Gospel! Jesus died for your sins repent (accept the sacrifice of Jesus) and be baptized.How can you be wrong? That's what scripture says.Act 2:38 And Peter said unto them, Repent ye, and be baptized every one of you in the name of…[Read more]

]]> 6504bcc917bfdf8d233075e46a6bd751 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-son-of-god/page/27/#post-29626 Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:01:51 +1200 Quote (david @ Sep. 12 2006,02:34)I'm just curious to know what a trinitarian would say with regard to the above post. Anyone?I'm no longer a Trinitarian, but when dealing with the Bible I believe in being true to context. The subject is Wisdom, not Jesus. Therefore I stick to the context. Also the points you have raised change if the NWT is not…[Read more]

]]> 7bc2f9c4f0835e13ff908f63be0b300a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/calvinism-or-arminianism/page/3/#post-29405 Thu, 28 Sep 2006 02:29:29 +1200 I believe in Biblenism.

]]> 7d8750ff702b4fd85252a75e87d3bc57 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/3-baptisms/page/14/#post-29354 Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:31:39 +1200 Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Sep. 26 2006,22:15)If you cannot see the truth, then the truth is not in you. Those who are of the Father will know the things of the Father, for the Father will reveal himself to them. As of my precious King James, remember your own word Semmy, for one day you will have to repeat them to the Father. Jesus is the…[Read more]

]]> 0085836f32d20a02ef0289f1d0d75f18 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/incarnation/page/2/#post-29291 Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:42:51 +1200 Quote (Sammo @ May 16 2006,18:09)Exactly – so both John and Jesus began to exist when they were conceived, right?Sammo,Consider these scriptures, God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom…[Read more]

]]> e93cd83cf1cbbfa9b61ddc1d6817ef74 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/3-baptisms/page/13/#post-29231 Tue, 26 Sep 2006 03:17:17 +1200 Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Sep. 25 2006,20:39)Because it is an evil gereration that trys to replace the cleaning power of the blood of the lamb with water. This is the work of satan. And if you stand on this doctrine, your gospel is not the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For to deny his blood is to deny that he died on the cross and I rebuke you in…[Read more]

]]> 4cf8f78761d37d36628ede64ae326897 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/sword-of-the-spirit/page/2/#post-29189 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:09:29 +1200 Quote (kenrch @ Sep. 24 2006,13:02)Question:Why are we, God's children, Not casting out demons, healing the sick, and performing other miracles as Jesus said?Because of a lack of true repentance. God is not mocked. We can give lip service all we want (see Matt 7:21-23), but God is not fooled. The disciples forsook all to follow Jesus. What about…[Read more]

]]> 6b9e4e952361e2a136c4e102504527cc http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/3-baptisms/page/13/#post-29188 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:01:34 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 24 2006,23:00)Hi H, So for any truth to be established we need two or three witnesses.2Cor 13″ 1…EVERY FACT IS TO BE CONFIRMED BY THE TESTIMONY OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES.” Show me one scripture that speaks without confusion, specifically of the baptism of blood and then we can search for witnesses to it.But if you…[Read more]

]]> 40d98654c8eb3f1a4163caf7f910bd7a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/repentance/#post-29187 Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:48:04 +1200 Excellent topic. In the new testament (though not exclusively) repentance is the prerequisite for salvation. John the Baptist was sent to prepare the way for Jesus through a baptism of repentance. In Matthew 3 John's first words were repent, and in Mathew 4 after Jesus' overcoming Satan His first words of His ministry was repent. Without…[Read more]

]]> c13c3e9c36d13b5090755caab358d1e0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/an-invitation-to-chat/page/6/#post-23479 Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:00:42 +1200 Hello all,Just wanted to join the chat. I'm from Orlando, Florida.

]]> 02bc6c0d1e494638f2ddaa8f9b3bbd61 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/1-timothy-613-16/#post-23061 Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:29:13 +1200 Quote (The One @ July 28 2006,20:38)Fellow members, I have read many posts on this site before joining,and I would like to thank the originator of this site(T8 I believe)for doing a fine job. I believed in the triune God doctrine all of my life.I followed the example set down by many preachers,teachers…,all of whom I considered godly…[Read more]

]]> 39c48a0afe34e34c3aa4c3c9474a003a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/scriptural-common-sense-vs-confusion/page/4/#post-23060 Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:18:25 +1200 Quote (Cubes @ July 29 2006,12:33)Following are excerpts from the Catholic Encyclopedia:Quote http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15047a.htmThe Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion — the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these…[Read more]

]]> 054d175b14783f0ae5728473cd613b7f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-great-apostasy/page/2/#post-40952 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:11:19 +1200 Quote (david @ June 28 2006,00:18)Excellent question Sultan. If “Easter” is the proper translation, from what Greek word is it translated?I feel strongly Sultan that you will only get silence.Yes David I believe you're right, and the funny thing is this is the first reference, I have a dozen more. I used to be part of a group that believed the…[Read more]

]]> 9faeec8de2d7fbfb2447a4300a368c84 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-death-just-sleep/page/3/#post-20901 Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:59:42 +1200 Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ June 27 2006,22:02)Yet, the verses that were suppossably swapped are rumors. Any proof is as corrupt as those who claim the validity of the corrupted translations.H,What was God's Word before 1611?

]]> ebfcb6b9263d612f610d906d53304217 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-great-apostasy/page/3/#post-40956 Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:37:00 +1200 Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ June 25 2006,20:59)Easter celebrations were held hundreds of years before Christ was born as festivals of spring honoring Eostre, the great mother goddess of the Saxons. This name was fashioned after the ancient word for spring, Eastre. The goddess Ostara was the Norse equivalent whose symbols were the hare and the…[Read more]

]]> e0c335456872db51a98e37feef090a69 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-great-apostasy/page/3/#post-40968 Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:56:26 +1200 Quote (Sultan @ June 18 2006,00:46)Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ June 17 2006,23:29)Easter is the proper translation. All the others have it wrong. The translaters purpose was not to make changes or to be bias. Their job was to be unbias and to be as according to those who wrote the OT. Their intention was to copy. They did not want to bring any…[Read more]

]]> 3587d9520898eb1f1c51bddf4b3750d6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/a-spirit-once-dead-reborn/page/5/#post-20107 Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:57:35 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2006,23:53)Hi H, The Word of God is alive and active. It is above any human effort at translation. Those who have the Spirit do not need to claim a perfect transalation becuse that Spirit gives light to the written Word.Amen. Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the…[Read more]

]]> 46fff45e749a577542e004a6d9331199 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/first-born-of-creation/#post-20106 Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:51:47 +1200 Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ June 17 2006,19:47)Dear Sultan,If you look a little deeper, you will understand. Jesus is the Word of God. If you look up the word begotten in the dictionary, it say to bring into existance. In the beginning, the Father begat the Son. Even before the heavens and the earth was the Son. God spoke creation into…[Read more]

]]> c18e2f891bb4668eaa0cf1adbef1585c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-great-apostasy/page/6/#post-41002 Sun, 18 Jun 2006 04:46:59 +1200 Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ June 17 2006,23:29)Easter is the proper translation. All the others have it wrong. The translaters purpose was not to make changes or to be bias. Their job was to be unbias and to be as according to those who wrote the OT. Their intention was to copy. They did not want to bring any influence of any sort or any…[Read more]

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