https://heavennet.net/members/Rena/activity/ Activity feed for Rena. Sat, 25 Apr 2026 05:58:49 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 e7c88781ad0811f3d3c4a29e8440ced5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/found/#post-251118 Wed, 06 Jul 2011 07:43:52 +1200 And please, no flooding either – take turns.

]]> 402b1768a182c0fb30f08e01ecf1be43 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-scripture-state-flesh-cant-enter-heaven/page/6/#post-250640 Sat, 02 Jul 2011 09:05:48 +1200 Kerwin, Im probably going way off topic. So what ill do – is leave it for now, and if your ever interested, theres a thread on the rapture and the millenium here;http://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;t=3729Ok?

]]> 9ece2b29c044a659aa1224ac867fdf67 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/227/#post-250587 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 19:03:39 +1200 Mike, I was thinking,”Now it happened on the day when God's sons came to present themselves before Yahweh, that Satan also came among them.” – Job 1:6This is Angels. You said that because they presented themself before God then God must have a body of some kind, ok, When Man prays, they present themself to God in prayer, true?So when people all…[Read more]

]]> e46f2cb280539696c14f5c3562260c16 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/226/#post-250544 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 10:33:56 +1200 Quote (Istari @ July 01 2011,19:40)Ah Mikeybolls,What trash are you dragging up now…The Does not qualify anything you said. They are opinions from others.You did a poll – what did it achieve – nothing except that more people voted than take part – strange – why do they not participate?Istari, I didnt vote in any poll, just in case you were…[Read more]

]]> e85b5516094ac2600d37b4dbae5b088f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/226/#post-250534 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 08:05:24 +1200 Ed, when I die. Though its partly in me now. Especially when I obey God. But not fully untill our time is up, on this world. Then we will return to the loving care of our Father.

]]> 02560c286b35c622e93b3281e729b576 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/226/#post-250532 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 07:56:20 +1200 Ed, He GOES to prepare a place for us.

]]> a4a1b41bb150105767366237ee0b8559 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/226/#post-250531 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 07:55:02 +1200 Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2011,19:32)Quote (Rena @ July 01 2011,18:27)By the way, where do you believe heaven is? Somewhere “way up there among the stars”?Hi Rena,Matt.6:20-21 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will…[Read more]

]]> 819649b7844ad4843a6614dfd0d9c90a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/226/#post-250529 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 07:53:48 +1200 Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2011,19:27)Quote (Rena @ July 01 2011,18:16)Ed, Matt 6:10 – “Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven”Thy will be done as it is heaven – this is obeying God, now, today. This is the “Millenium” age now.But Satan has been or will be let lose and will decieve the nations once more and gather them to war,…[Read more]

]]> db8522f3792d258a46ad0df1fa3c765c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/226/#post-250526 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 07:31:19 +1200 I have to go have a coffee…

]]> e6d0a2ec49c08e0dc3054ebc0bbcd172 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/226/#post-250524 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 07:27:25 +1200 By the way, where do you believe heaven is? Somewhere “way up there among the stars”?

]]> 7338a50c7661769b88d10370c8d16aba http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/226/#post-250523 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 07:16:53 +1200 Ed, Matt 6:10 – “Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven”Thy will be done as it is heaven – this is obeying God, now, today. This is the “Millenium” age now.But Satan has been or will be let lose and will decieve the nations once more and gather them to war, and then the sun of righteousness will rise, the day that will come…[Read more]

]]> 95dab1c4168bd26c2b8204cd045bdd07 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/226/#post-250521 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 07:04:46 +1200 Ed, God is in heaven, as we are told to pray to our Father in Heaven.But God works in us through the Spirit. The Spirit worked in Jesus too.But the Day of the Lord will come burning like an oven.Those who are loved by God, will be ok. The others wont be.

]]> c3d99f4a0424f5da428d70b9ec1052a6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/225/#post-250519 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 06:57:10 +1200 Back to your numbers and colors Ed?Ed, the Holy Spirit is here, but the actual return of Jesus (day of the Lord) is still future.

]]> 85597dd2f5814e8b990c213b7d2dc5db http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-scripture-state-flesh-cant-enter-heaven/page/6/#post-250518 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 06:50:09 +1200 66:23 From new moon to new moon, and from sabbath to sabbath, all flesh shall come to worship before me, says the LORD.Kerwin, further, I believe this is meaning 'all flesh' as in people of all nations – from new moon to new moon, and sabbath to sabbath, is obviously about today. From the spreading of the Gospel to all the world.

]]> 1c604382481bfaddcbcb99d8d7858a01 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/titus-213-14-proof-that-jesus-is-the-saviour/page/10/#post-250516 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 06:31:42 +1200 Ok Kathi, thanks for your response…hmmm, still a bit confusing to me, though. I'll keep reading!

]]> 5b0223b3cbb4e24f8b28405358d971ea http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/225/#post-250515 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 06:26:11 +1200 Ed, I know. Do you believe in a future – temporary – thousand year Millenium? Only for Satan to be let lose again?

]]> ee335437485c9f8fc18bb709d23868f8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-scripture-state-flesh-cant-enter-heaven/page/6/#post-250514 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 06:14:45 +1200 Hi Kerwin.Quote Could you please let me know what book and chapter you are citing as you seem to be using a version unfamiliar to my search methods. If you could also include the version it would aid me. Thank you.I'm using my own Bible, the Revised Standard Edition, available online here:http://www.biblestudytools.com/rsv/isaiah/66.htmlFor the…[Read more]

]]> a45db4c9347ee8522a54b7f8b2d0a230 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/225/#post-250509 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 05:19:55 +1200 OK Ed.Thankyou for answering.

]]> 23722f289df11286798b3910315d185e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/titus-213-14-proof-that-jesus-is-the-saviour/page/10/#post-250507 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 05:11:19 +1200 Kathi, how come Jesus said – “Why do you call me good? No one is good except one–God.”I don't understand the Trinity, and I dont know anything about the earlier Trinity that you speak of. But I'm curious about this one verse and others.

]]> b7c85bf5d39ab2d0113616aadbc9ac55 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/225/#post-250477 Fri, 01 Jul 2011 00:29:43 +1200 I think anyone willing to stick around and debate over this will only be led to confusion. I'm not talking only about this thread either.God gave us a gift and that gift is freedom, joy, love, and God.”You search the scriptures thinking in them you will find eternal life, but it is these that speak of me”People think, here, in this forum, that if…[Read more]

]]> 8becdb53d8b6586af14607c892abfc31 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/225/#post-250470 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:05:14 +1200 Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2011,10:46)Quote (Rena @ July 01 2011,08:32)Quote (Ed J @ June 29 2011,17:11) Hi Pierre,I haven't been reading this thread,because it is 'irrelevant'Ed, it is not irrelevant because, some people came to see that Jesus was risen in the flesh, when they previously believed Jesus was risen as a spirit only. So they believed…[Read more]

]]> 4d3a75cb40fd8b43f5c937f45fa16b76 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/225/#post-250464 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:40:16 +1200 Quote (terraricca @ July 01 2011,04:57)Renayou should read the Chap 7  and 14 of revelation ,and ask who is the info comes from,Rev 6:1 I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven sealsI can not tell all the things i understand you would not believe it anyway,so read the word of God intensively and prayers and Gods will,(spirit) will come…[Read more]

]]> 580c1dfa5b4dc00a4b31b90595b744dd http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/225/#post-250463 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:32:39 +1200 Quote (Ed J @ June 29 2011,17:11) Hi Pierre,I haven't been reading this thread,because it is 'irrelevant'Ed, it is not irrelevant because, some people came to see that Jesus was risen in the flesh, when they previously believed Jesus was risen as a spirit only. So they believed scripture eventually over the doctrines of men.How about you? I don't…[Read more]

]]> e50c4bb79c40026238eaeab0df208452 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-scripture-state-flesh-cant-enter-heaven/page/6/#post-250416 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:02:19 +1200 Quote (kerwin @ June 30 2011,16:26)I admit I have not read the commentaries on Isaiah 66 but I do like to compare scriptures to one another and Isaiah 66:22-24 is a summary of the same message foretold in Revelations 21-22.  Gehenna was a trashpit outside of the city of Jerusalem and the worms burrowed through the rotten garbage that was also on…[Read more]

]]> 81d3ef482d6b05697018f02e4615b713 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/224/#post-250411 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:19:55 +1200 144000 + the harvest of the world = the multitude that no man can count – seen before the throne of God in HEAVEN.Put away your preconcieved ideas, that were obviously influenced by JW literature!

]]> 9ad1993fa4624e232acd03616c959d5e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/help-i-need-to-read-and-see-as-much-healings-as-p/#post-250409 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:07:34 +1200 Hi TT33.Welcome:)Smoking… I quit EASILY after praying. But started again only because of my mood which was a bit down. BUT I only smoke a bit – compared to what I used to. And I know now, that if I had to stop, there would be no problem. Hows it going with it?

]]> 1f8e15000931cf585b04f97e30420856 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/224/#post-250406 Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:17:20 +1200 Istari, Mike, Terrarica, and anyone else who believes in a 'millenium' or that 144000 ONLY go to heaven,Firstly, there is NO point in a thousand year millenium. Can someone tell me what the point is? How come Jesus never mentions it?In Rev:7, there's the first resurrection, the first fruits, which are Hebrews, from the twelve tribes of Isreal. The…[Read more]

]]> dd836cffc78ed0cc92de8dadbcd330c2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/last-days/page/13/#post-250311 Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:14:20 +1200 Mark, I hate tough times, I know, me too. May God give us strength. Tim I think you should listen to what Mark says. I think theres a lot of truth in that. As I said its something my Dad would say. But he speaks a lot of truth. Think about it.

]]> b184f0a7c8117d6637e035aa29f66fef http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-scripture-state-flesh-cant-enter-heaven/page/5/#post-250310 Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:04:26 +1200 Hi Irene! I hope your well.I'll have to look into your verses later. It's late where I am. Goodnight.

]]> 2b3d8a064fbaa57f7d31ad3d1dd2476d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-scripture-state-flesh-cant-enter-heaven/page/5/#post-250308 Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:47:21 +1200 Tim, no, I just read Isaiah 66 and that was my understanding on it, and I then looked briefly at the commentaries. But your right, best understanding is as you say, with the help of God.

]]> c7253c55b7b460b47024db6d0f1c36b6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/last-days/page/12/#post-250305 Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:42:10 +1200 Quote (mikeangel @ June 29 2011,23:34)God is not the destroyer of life. Satan is. Man has a choice, and since the world follows Satan, death reigns here, but not for long. Jesus himself aknowledged that the ruler of this world is satan and is in dakness. Jesus was light, but the world perferred darkness, because it's works were evil. Still is the…[Read more]

]]> 13cb93550209a572920ff63bb666b608 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/last-days/page/12/#post-250298 Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:14:45 +1200 Quote (mikeangel @ June 29 2011,12:21)Good point Ed. Also, as I read it, the ones who think of thierselves highly or rightious will be brought low, and humble and lowly will be exalted. One who thinks they are sinless and perfect is asking for SERIOUS trouble. IMHO.“He spoke also this parable to certain people who were convinced of their own…[Read more]

]]> efc075db15fff3eb37b81c0df652c6c2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-scripture-state-flesh-cant-enter-heaven/page/5/#post-250296 Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:53:26 +1200 Quote (kerwin @ June 29 2011,16:10)Please consider those two scriptures in the context of Isaiah 66 as that is a summary of the times upto and including those foretold in Revelations 21 and 22.Kerwin.Isaiah 66, according to the commentaries – Christ, the gospel, to Israel, and Gentile, here and now.Im Amillenial, so I understand the “millenium” as…[Read more]

]]> 8f9da753e251fef30488aa7eb11a0537 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-scripture-state-flesh-cant-enter-heaven/page/5/#post-250295 Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:35:08 +1200 Tim, I was thinking more, like…. spiritual kingdom, not like this. 'nor shall they say, Lo, here; or lo, there; for lo, the reign of God is within you.'Like another dimension right close that we cant see.

]]> 8b70db4328d2f54eb314f1fddd342850 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-scripture-state-flesh-cant-enter-heaven/page/5/#post-250293 Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:10:09 +1200 Quote It will come down when theres a new Heaven, and new Earth.I dont get this though. Something doesnt feel right.

]]> 1ee7bfef53c489b8feb2a34b271675d2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-scripture-state-flesh-cant-enter-heaven/page/5/#post-250288 Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:30:54 +1200 Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 29 2011,16:23)Hi Rena,You are speaking of 21:6-8, right?  I'm speaking of 22:14-15.  Read that part and tell me what you think………..or did I misunderstand some of your post?  peace and love,mikeHi Mike.You said,Quote I re-read Rev 21 and 22.  It seems to me that the Kingdom of God will indeed be among mankind.  Bu…[Read more]

]]> 408d12f11ea7b5100e8f50aae960cf87 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/last-days/page/11/#post-250178 Tue, 28 Jun 2011 09:56:30 +1200 Quote (mikeangel @ June 28 2011,00:56)Oops, I ment to say we are humble by those statements and honest. Someday we will #1 be reeel smart. #2 meet in heavan. Amen Mark. Shouldnt be too long now.

]]> 35bf0c14e5b211f1872d315c70f85cb1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-scripture-state-flesh-cant-enter-heaven/page/4/#post-250155 Tue, 28 Jun 2011 04:13:10 +1200 Mike, and all, Rev 21 and 22,I just read it, and this is how I see it.The elect make up the Holy City Jerusalem that came down like a bride adorned for her husband. It is built with the 12 gates, which are the 12 tribes of Isreal, and 12 foundations which are the 12 Apostles.Those on the outside – the unclean, are thrown into the lake of fire…[Read more]

]]> 0aca34cd8363117370daa591fdef526a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/last-days/page/11/#post-250044 Mon, 27 Jun 2011 01:34:38 +1200 Tim and Theodore, my brains really tired at the moment, theres so many opinions on things at the moment, thanks though.

]]> 4a849a3957158496a2381295175017c3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/last-days/page/11/#post-250018 Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:22:00 +1200 Quote (mikeangel @ June 27 2011,05:08)I have to ask, and I am  stupid so please make your answer as short as possible, I have a very short attention span, in addition to not knowing how to spell-  Haha Mark, I could say the same about myself!

]]> 92db64a260d3e871e751681b010a00a2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/ancient-syriac-documents/page/10/#post-250016 Sun, 26 Jun 2011 23:15:44 +1200 Kathi,The Sheppard of Hermas on the other hand, is regarded as genuine, considered canonical scripture by the earliest church, highly valued by the earliest Christians.In Hermas, God is one. The Son is later introduced as the gate we must go through, there is no other way, which agrees with scripture.Second Book: CommandmentsFirst CommandmentON…[Read more]

]]> 43be013df50fa65c3d80268b3c8335fb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/ancient-syriac-documents/page/10/#post-250009 Sun, 26 Jun 2011 22:53:30 +1200 Quote (Lightenup @ June 27 2011,10:11)Well Rena,I have no reason to think the ancient Syriac documents that are posted here are inaccurate.  My spirit bears witness to them or I wouldn't put them here.Introductory Notice to Memoirs of Edessa and Other Syriac DocumentsThe Syriac Documents here subjoined are to be regarded as interesting relics of…[Read more]

]]> c86d3880a8e83a306240f26e1ba26123 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/ancient-syriac-documents/page/9/#post-249993 Sun, 26 Jun 2011 21:44:12 +1200 Really Kathi. We have scriptures that have been sent by God around the world in fullfillment of prophecy.Some think they have found hidden secrets, that no-one else knows or can read.They dont know what these writings are, or where they have come from. all they have to go on is the internet. They flash a nice smile and charm people with kindness…[Read more]

]]> 3fafaf1c4534d01d5d45f8ebb6024a60 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/217/#post-249852 Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:35:02 +1200 Quote (Istari @ June 26 2011,10:26)Has anyone read Galations 6:1?Can someone explain specifically the part that says, '… You who are Spiritual…'Istari, You who are spiritual are the spiritual ones which is different. They have a good sense of discernment and have gentleness and humbleness. They should be the ones to try and restore a person.…[Read more]

]]> 8847ec47d34a0f8cb67f23ef03dd6a6f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-scripture-state-flesh-cant-enter-heaven/page/2/#post-249847 Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:02:54 +1200 Terrarica, we'll leave it for now. Kerwin is right we are going off topic.

]]> 303ab757c07f66bc111cb1071ffccb5b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/last-days/page/11/#post-249845 Sat, 25 Jun 2011 22:56:22 +1200 I completly agree with you Mark. I admire your zeal and honesty. Keep going Mark.

]]> c88893d50259b380aea7c89df32c6859 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/217/#post-249844 Sat, 25 Jun 2011 22:30:05 +1200 Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2011,03:01)From Solomon's prayer when he dedicated God's Temple:2 Chronicles 618 But will God really dwell on earth with men?21 Hear the supplications of your servant and of your people Israel when they pray toward this place. Hear from heaven, your dwelling place; and when you hear, forgive. 25 then hear from heaven…[Read more]

]]> 90a9c4db7381d60e9135e9c6b190a6f4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-scripture-state-flesh-cant-enter-heaven/page/2/#post-249810 Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:34:59 +1200 Quote (kerwin @ June 25 2011,15:59)To all,In one context it is the spirit that inherits the reign of God and not any kind of body but I have doubts that is the context being used in 2 Corinthians.  I did not want to addresss that particular issue beyond pointing out that it does not state “heaven”, “enter”, or the types of flesh and blood.Sorry…[Read more]

]]> 636631320ca259601b361b0e1ef42603 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/does-scripture-state-flesh-cant-enter-heaven/page/2/#post-249809 Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:30:47 +1200 Terrarica you have to look at the original words which were Hebrew.The closest you will get to the original words and their original meanings is the YLT (Youngs Literal Translation) – and you will see in your list – that in the YLT it is Zealous. Zealous in a Dictionary means this…zealous – active interest excitement and enthusiasm. -passionate,…[Read more]

]]> c8ef6b0c0bb48cf92b59e32ef4db187a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/ed-j-for-second-moderator/#post-249799 Sat, 25 Jun 2011 05:41:01 +1200 Princess, you are blessed and highly favoured. I often read the conversation (sorry) between you and Stuart… good to hear your doing well.Mike, so youll like poetry then. Poetry is a good way to express yourself.Take care you both.

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