https://heavennet.net/members/Ramblinrose/activity/ Activity feed for Ramblinrose. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 a9a9f5787d5257db85c981a9d9f426be http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-holy-spirit/page/41/#post-35362 Wed, 27 Dec 2006 07:57:00 +1300 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 26 2006,22:08)Quote The following information be prove useful:Hebrews Chapter 1 RamblinRoseAnother promoter of Arianism I see. Have you truly checked the website out to see its herisys? WJI looked up what 'arianism' was on wikipedia and from the description offered – no, I am not one. I do not believe the Yahshua…[Read more]

]]> af9e2ef9aa6e7f86aa725ccfb78f1125 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-holy-spirit/page/40/#post-35248 Tue, 26 Dec 2006 05:12:24 +1300 The following information be prove useful:Hebrews Chapter 1

]]> 9454611aa8a2119547add1eac3574b2f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/messiah/page/2/#post-34944 Fri, 22 Dec 2006 06:26:33 +1300 Hi Cubes,Yes I agree. The seed of David, House of Judah, etc etc Yahshua was the one promised – the Messiah. 100% human born of human parents. Amen

]]> 7a0d6cb38f028d9f62a0533656216c3f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/functional-doctrine-or-teachingi-would-like-to-ta/page/2/#post-34742 Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:01:38 +1300 Hi M42Quote We need to KNOW our Fathernot just KNOW ABOUT Him.I have already discussed the above with Nick in another topic somewhere. Not interested in going around in circles with him any more. I have made the decision that if I am to participate on this board I must ignore Nick’s posts.A few of topics that I have had greater participated in u…[Read more]

]]> 5826faa08e10e10d09eea98716c13095 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/functional-doctrine-or-teachingi-would-like-to-ta/#post-34644 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:07:30 +1300 Part of my post has gone missing. Was supposed to have all the questions as below:Quote From M421. Do you believe Jesus Christ isA. A part of a Triune GodB. Fully Human (Body, soul, spirit, and will)C. A lesser Godd. A dual natured creature 100% God and 100% man.2 Do you believe Jesus Christ is the pattern son. The example for the rest of…[Read more]

]]> baff4f36ae3b5539e4bd58dfd6424bbe http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/functional-doctrine-or-teachingi-would-like-to-ta/#post-34643 Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:04:10 +1300 Quote (music4two @ Dec. 18 2006,00:30)1. Do you believe Jesus Christ isA. A part of a Triune GodHi M421. B – Fully Human (Body, soul, spirit, and will)2. Yes3. Yes4. NoTeachings – Torah. Torah brings us to a greater knowledge of YHWH. It is his guidance for us to know how to walk in love with our brother and with him.

]]> f6beb9b4b89a45b01f9e5aea14a3c88c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/dual-nature-of-christ/page/3/#post-33013 Thu, 23 Nov 2006 22:14:03 +1300 Welcome music4twoGreat posts but I am with Adam Pastor on the throne part.I have done this dance with Nick before in the ‘Conception’ thread – same dance new partner.Quote From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaThe Greek word λόγος or logos is a word with various meanings. It is often translated into English as “Word” but can also mean thoug…[Read more]

]]> a9bf2bd529c32c8f440ff15582058d76 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/michael-nor-jesus/page/2/#post-32169 Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:43:53 +1300 http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=154Quote Revelation 3:14To the angel of the church in Laodicea, write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. (NIV)1. As it is translated above, there is no Trinitarian inference in the verse. It agrees perfectly with w…[Read more]

]]> 1461f1311da445b467956b579ceb21c5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-observing-christmas-and-easter-ok/page/3/#post-31517 Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:05:13 +1300 Hi DavidA few things I have pondered.Herod had asked the Magi when they had first seen the star. The discussions with the Magi do not reveal that the star was only appeared after the birth of Yahshua. The Magi came to where the star was but it doesn't say that they did that immediately upon seeing it.Stars change in brightness depending on their…[Read more]

]]> cf708992ef76ddb4a9211687a1f4843f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-observing-christmas-and-easter-ok/page/3/#post-31505 Wed, 01 Nov 2006 11:08:23 +1300 Hi David,From researching the subject of the birth of Yahshua I have also come across the following which may interest you – hope you can follow it:I believe that Mary and Joseph stayed with relatives when they went to Bethlehem and that they stayed in a guest room.You will notice that the shepherds came to see them. The only clues they had to k…[Read more]

]]> d3b7541c4b1418440280af6e80cca08f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-jesus-is-god/page/23/#post-31403 Mon, 30 Oct 2006 20:40:27 +1300 Bravo, Adam Pastor and WhatIsTrue

]]> a47d0f463bf20b01abbea19eb7b71071 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-observing-christmas-and-easter-ok/page/3/#post-31370 Sun, 29 Oct 2006 00:23:38 +1300 The following may be of interest:Quote Most people have been influenced by their upbringing and things depicted in stories, children’s books, Christmas cards, etc. Many understand, from these influences that: • Mary rode on a donkey to Bethlehem. The bible does not say what mode of transport was used, only that both Mary and Joseph travelled to…[Read more]

]]> c3dadd264544458a6b4a6bb89863963e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-jesus-is-god/page/18/#post-31121 Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:24:31 +1300 Adam Pastor – Excellent posts.

]]> 3a1fb8188fcfef3e7ecd0a0255bc3129 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/blood/page/5/#post-30451 Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:20:57 +1300 A baby has it's own blood source and not that of the mother. Nutrients are passed through the placenta to the fetus.

]]> a3373cac305ad0fa2b9e3e3e6853eb4e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-stone/#post-30444 Sat, 14 Oct 2006 06:51:59 +1300 John 16:16  They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.17 ¶ Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.18  As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

]]> 481314133256f3b26919d2516e02a99c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/21/#post-30421 Sat, 14 Oct 2006 01:31:23 +1300 Matthew 1: 18Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. ‘Before they came together’ is not about sexual relations it is in regard to living together.  Before they had come to live together (which was the final step of betr…[Read more]

]]> 5ab3194fbdfc138e990e27075a946539 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/21/#post-30414 Fri, 13 Oct 2006 23:03:18 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 05 2006,22:56)Quote (Ramblinrose @ Aug. 05 2006,08:19)I also do not understand why Mary had to be a 'virgin' (as in never having had sex but be with child).  If we go back to the verses quoted in Isaiah 7:14 you will see that Isaiah had sexual relations with the prophetess and that a child was born (Isaiah 8.3)  This a…[Read more]

]]> ef6ac93fb5d460742b6cfe1cbd13403f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jehovahs-witness-church/page/4/#post-25694 Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:04:13 +1200 Hi davidI don't believe the witch was communicating with Samuel.I had offered the following link in previous discussion on this topic.  You may find it of interest.Saul & the Witch of Endor

]]> 8a50c040b04d90d6819884e6db9639be http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-soul/page/27/#post-25404 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:48:22 +1200 David,Enjoyed your post about the Witch of Endor and the soul.Nick, I believe David quoted Psalms 18.31 not 18.1. To use your own words – 'You must be accurate'.Psalms 18:31 For who is God, except the LORD? And who is a rock, except our God?

]]> 5bd7a1c09831abde218a625003208c81 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-the-bible-the-word-of-god/page/6/#post-24072 Fri, 11 Aug 2006 03:45:06 +1200 Nick, Earlier I said:Quote How can I come to know YHWH apart from his word?In my last comment I said:Quote How else could I know 'of' God if he did not 'speak' the knowledge of himself to us, that others wrote down?You lose what is being said because you prefer to nitpick at the words being used and alter the direction of the…[Read more]

]]> 9b39ad75c6dc4441624ff2b9f17eb759 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-the-bible-the-word-of-god/page/6/#post-24065 Fri, 11 Aug 2006 02:48:41 +1200 How else could I know of God if he did not 'speak' the knowledge of himself to us, that others wrote down?

]]> 25eba82aa49dcf64d767bc804ab1850e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-the-bible-the-word-of-god/page/6/#post-24060 Fri, 11 Aug 2006 02:33:04 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 11 2006,00:21)Hi RR, You say”Yahshua is the 'Word of God' in revelation as this is a title/authority given to him.”Surely it is who he IS rather than a title\authority given to him. It IS who scripture states that he isI believe this to be a title of authority given him by YHWH.

]]> 2567b769cf8f8a95fb75eef00705e81a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-the-bible-the-word-of-god/page/6/#post-24058 Fri, 11 Aug 2006 02:31:02 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 11 2006,00:19)Hi RR ,You say”YHWH is the word.” Where is this written?How can I come to know YHWH apart from his word?YHWH created the world – He spoke and it was so.YHWH gave commandments, statues, laws.  These were given to show how we were to have a relationship with the only true God and others showed how to have a re…[Read more]

]]> ec2738e7a2ff534654a1dcf00fc042bd http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-the-bible-the-word-of-god/page/5/#post-24026 Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:24:24 +1200 Yahshua is the 'word' of God in the sense that he was God's annointed representative on earth.  As God's annointed spokesman he spoke the words of God for God.Yahshua is the 'word' of God made flesh as he was the one spoken of by YHWH throught the prophets.  His being born was a fulfilment of what God had spoken of the one to come.  Yahshua is th…[Read more]

]]> d1adbb7dc23f3734bd4584768d44efa5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-man/page/14/#post-23668 Sat, 05 Aug 2006 08:40:17 +1200 Quote Did you think it was the body of Samuel? Surely not.Where have I indicated that I believed it was the body of Samuel?

]]> dd481b60e0d30bcea7cea574ed723e53 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/21/#post-23666 Sat, 05 Aug 2006 08:31:20 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 05 2006,08:53)Hi RR, Do you have problems with God calling men his sons as with Is 1.2, Deut 14.1?Or is it the firstborn status of the Son of God you are struggling with?Nick,How about I post the verses that you have quoted since you seem to prefer not to:Quote Isaiah 1:2 ¶ Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the…[Read more]

]]> e934ce8e5356b75ac70784b24e7af0e7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-man/page/14/#post-23665 Sat, 05 Aug 2006 08:17:34 +1200 Nick,Quote I do not see Satan mentioned in the scriptures here.Quote Nowhere does scripture say this was divination or satanic power or not true as written.This women had a familar spirit and I would understand a familar spirit to be from the evil one.Quote 1 Samuel 28:7  Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar…[Read more]

]]> bc9fcd5034c3a4a87546fdc889a4c96f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-man/page/14/#post-23662 Sat, 05 Aug 2006 07:35:30 +1200 Saul claims responsibility for calling up Samuel.So Saul can raise the dead?

]]> e83602bd758ba5654e5c14da153b6a55 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/20/#post-23660 Sat, 05 Aug 2006 07:23:14 +1200 Quote (Ramblinrose @ Aug. 03 2006,22:33)Exodus 4:22  “Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the LORD: “Israel is My son, My firstborn.1 Chronicles 28:6  “Now He said to me, ‘It is your son Solomon who shall build My house and My courts; for I have chosen him to be My son, and I will be his Father.Revelation 21:7  “He who overcomes shall inheri…[Read more]

]]> ac231598a56a4e6da8896c3a3f9c850f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/20/#post-23659 Sat, 05 Aug 2006 07:19:14 +1200 Quote (Cubes @ Aug. 04 2006,02:40)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 04 2006,03:42)Hi RR, So if you were to accept that Jesus Christ really was the monogenes Son of God and son by the Spirit in Mary how would you resolve these other claims of sonship?Hi RR, Nick et al:Here's my proposal or theory.  I'd be interested to know why this would be unscriptural…[Read more]

]]> 67184a1918fbdfe0b5afc6480bb33a07 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/20/#post-23658 Sat, 05 Aug 2006 06:58:27 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 03 2006,23:09)Hi RR, Jn 1.11Jn 4.9,Coll 1.15-17,Jn 1.14-15,Jn 1.30,Jn 3.17,Jn 6.33-38,Jn 6.57-62,Jn 8.23-29,Jn 8.42,Jn 16.28,Jn 17.5,Jn 17.13,Jn 17.25,etcNick,These verse have been covered some in this topic and some in other topics.(Gotta get of this ride, making me dizzy).

]]> 8fae0eba854153ea238f8272382bc4b0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-man/page/14/#post-23657 Sat, 05 Aug 2006 06:44:27 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 05 2006,06:33)Hi RR, I believe what is written in scripture.I don't believe that actually answered the question I asked.Quote Am I to understand that you believe that satan has the power to raise the dead – whether that be the body or spirit?

]]> d6f82be477318a49386248252c1d7174 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-man/page/14/#post-23656 Sat, 05 Aug 2006 06:36:14 +1200 Quote 1 Samuel 28: 6  And when Saul inquired of the LORD, the LORD did not answer him, either by dreams or by Urim or by the prophets.7 ¶ Then Saul said to his servants, “Find me a woman who is a medium, that I may go to her and inquire of her.” And his servants said to him, “In fact, there is a woman who is a medium at En Dor.”8  So Saul di…[Read more]

]]> eacbb870233dc3fde377101c8ce30996 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-man/page/14/#post-23654 Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:30:51 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 05 2006,05:39)Hi RR, As I expected the writer expresses his opinion that what is reported in scripture as happeneing could not actually have happened. It does not surprise me.NickThis same subject was raised in this topic on about page 4 or 5 in a discussion with Adam Pastor.Am I to understand that you believe that satan…[Read more]

]]> 31e00f1af9c45f14888658741afe0a18 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-is-man/page/14/#post-23647 Sat, 05 Aug 2006 01:26:41 +1200 The following writing is very good and covers the subject well.  Readers may find it of interest.Samuel, Saul and the WitchGod Bless

]]> 99d29dea38e22f329d820fac9af2863f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/upon-our-death/#post-23598 Fri, 04 Aug 2006 07:51:07 +1200 GG GirlHello and welcome. The topic 'What is Man' covers much of what happens to man when he dies. You may wish to read through it. Luckily this one is only 20 pages long at this stage.God Bless

]]> 64f4a5abd9f273943d78b348939c5022 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/20/#post-23542 Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:56:16 +1200 Quote Hi RR,We know the only begotten Son of God was sent into the world . We know the Word was with God in the beginning, an era before time. Sons derive life and being from their parents so he derives his monogenes being as an image of God before the era of time and that is all we can know about his beginnings. We know he had been in heaven and…[Read more]

]]> 592853e98a49168eab267e11e060a186 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/19/#post-23540 Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:51:13 +1200 No Nick,You tell me how YOU resolve them.

]]> 1dfb5b86a7c15464b3b478b366f18c66 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/19/#post-23537 Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:33:44 +1200 Exodus 4:22  “Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the LORD: “Israel is My son, My firstborn.1 Chronicles 28:6  “Now He said to me, ‘It is your son Solomon who shall build My house and My courts; for I have chosen him to be My son, and I will be his Father.Revelation 21:7  “He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God an…[Read more]

]]> 3820213d72e62caf1b4e393949858401 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/19/#post-23532 Thu, 03 Aug 2006 20:51:44 +1200 Nick,I said he is the CHOOSEN Son of God.You have said that he existed in some form before his birth. Did he always exist?When did he begin to exist?How did he come into being?At what point did he come into being?

]]> 6ac7e8d8bb1b1b5441a94fd644a96fd3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/19/#post-23473 Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:32:13 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 01 2006,11:21)Hi RR, What I do know is that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.All other sonship bows to this fact in my view.Scripture also tells me he is the Son of David and since his father was God it is as the foster child of Joseph.The people of the time clearly believed that Joseph was his physical father as it was…[Read more]

]]> 9517b27e163422226cbfeee9e0ec2ee3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/19/#post-23231 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:21:17 +1200 NickYou ask questions all the time and I try my best to answer them yet you have not answered the questions asked of you.  Here they are once again.  Please be courteous and reply to them.Quote From Me:The OT prophesies repeatedly state that the Messiah will come from the 'seed of David'.  How do you deal with this?From WhatIsTrue:Did the pr…[Read more]

]]> 5f25e3b98ae677d5097618d401edbc97 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/19/#post-23230 Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:12:29 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 30 2006,21:37)Hi RR,In what way was the Word spoken through the prophets WITH God, and God  in the beginning??NickIn the beginning was the wordIn the beginning YHWH had many thoughts/plans that would come to be as he spoke them into being.  Some things came into being sooner than others (YHWH speaking creation into b…[Read more]

]]> 453d7bd6f6121d1dc957880bdc57636f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/19/#post-23077 Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:28:55 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2006,03:11)Hi RR,What does “coming in the flesh” mean to you?Is it another way of saying “being born” to you?Is that what scripture is really saying?We always have to search for the true meanings, even in the manuscripts if need be, rather than just choosing a suitable translation of a verse. What of my other…[Read more]

]]> 272a9259ee566381f661e8ccf4caa164 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/101/#post-23075 Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:39:59 +1200 I am in agreement with Elidad.  I don't believe Yahshua existed in any form before his birth but I do believe he existed in the mind/plan/thought of God and was spoken of by YYWH (the word) through the prophets.  His birth, life and death was the fulfilment of what YHWH had spoken of the one to come.

]]> c58a46d547ebcee3589757d8404fc742 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/101/#post-23074 Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:25:32 +1200 John 17:5  “And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.John 17:24  “Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.

]]> 6d80c896cb37703e3ffd30bb39e4af08 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/18/#post-22830 Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:55:32 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 25 2006,19:40)Hi RR, Your verses:Quote  Luke 1:68  “Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people, 69  And has raised up a horn of salvation for us In the house of His servant David, 70  As He spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets, Who have been since the world began  (NKJV)Luke 1:68  Ble…[Read more]

]]> 5d35e9974aee81bbf1b697706eed00bd http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/18/#post-22765 Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:22:47 +1200 Quote (t8 @ July 23 2006,10:40)Thanks for your reply RR. I haven't got time to study what you have said but will do soon when I have time and then I will reply.My main concern at the moment is that you say that the Word became flesh means the plan of God became flesh.But we are told that the antichrist spirit denies that Jesus came in the flesh.…[Read more]

]]> c24c519d8ae51fbabd345c39c8f2fed6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/18/#post-22763 Tue, 25 Jul 2006 08:45:20 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 19 2006,00:21)Hi RR, You say”Luke 1:68  “Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people,  69  And has raised up a horn of salvation for us In the house of His servant David,  70  As He spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets, Who have been since eternity, Why is that? What does it mean to y…[Read more]

]]> 1f604227c91fe78322fdf1957ea08a62 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/conception/page/18/#post-22652 Sun, 23 Jul 2006 04:22:54 +1200 Quote (Cubes @ July 20 2006,21:08)Greetings RR et al:This has no doubt been discussed before I am sure, but do you mind telling us how you understand the verses relating to the world being made through the only begotten son of God, e.g. John 1, Hebrews 1, Colossians 1.   If he didn't exist before his birth in Bethlehem, how was the world made…[Read more]

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