https://heavennet.net/members/Morningstar/activity/ Activity feed for Morningstar. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 b5bba696b91de05d6779adc635105c17 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-father-of-lies/page/3/#post-75606 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:04:04 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 21 2007,05:27)Hi SOL, So satan is your God and our God is evil? Thanks. nuff said.No my God is the Father of Christ not the angel who delivered the law and is the leader of the satans.

]]> 1ba97727ca21503b5ab863d72c9be11d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-fruit-of-the-tree-50/page/4/#post-75572 Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:35:34 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 20 2007,20:33)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 20 2007,11:07)Quote (Son of Light @ Dec. 20 2007,11:03)Yes both Jews, Christians and even Muslims serving the God of this world and following his examples in the Old Testament do go around killing everyone.SOL.Evolutionists kill people. Think Adolph Hitler. Librarians kill people.Drunk drivers kill…[Read more]

]]> 68a43f7035ffdaae9cbcbd2c46ff8e5f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/58/#post-75092 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:55:54 +1300 Quote (acertainchap @ Dec. 17 2007,23:51)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 17 2007,20:20)Quote (acertainchap @ Dec. 17 2007,11:55)No we are not animals t8. I disagree with you.The wisest man in the bible disagrees:Ecclesiastes 3 18 I said in my heart, “Concerning the condition of the sons of men, God tests them, that they may see that they themselves a…[Read more]

]]> a544d3f5743af2739b4c0b10107df761 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/58/#post-75084 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:20:58 +1300 Quote (acertainchap @ Dec. 17 2007,11:55)No we are not animals t8. I disagree with you.The wisest man in the bible disagrees:Ecclesiastes 3 18 I said in my heart, “Concerning the condition of the sons of men, God tests them, that they may see that they themselves are like animals.” 19 For what happens to the sons of men also happens to ani…[Read more]

]]> 60446a7f5a83a4c3462e1a8dea581dad http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/thanks/page/7/#post-74920 Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:22:08 +1300 Quote (kenrch @ Dec. 16 2007,01:34)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 15 2007,11:12)Quote (david @ Dec. 14 2007,17:16)Quote Audiences know they are being deceived, and want the deception to have the cleverness of simplicity. Yes, they do want a clever simple answer, but when asked, they always think the answer is difficult.  If I'm watching a magic trick,…[Read more]

]]> 0c00cbe98d96758b13df13d8f69a186b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/thanks/page/6/#post-74874 Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:12:23 +1300 Quote (david @ Dec. 14 2007,17:16)Quote Audiences know they are being deceived, and want the deception to have the cleverness of simplicity. Yes, they do want a clever simple answer, but when asked, they always think the answer is difficult.  If I'm watching a magic trick, I first watch it for the simple feeling of wonder it creates, as you speak…[Read more]

]]> f0ef0832acc8155af831ec9c30970f8e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/55/#post-74483 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:45:44 +1300 Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 12 2007,01:43)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2007,21:34)Could someone (including apes) explain to me how nothing became the cosmos.I am not interested in the matter vs antimatter war, or how matter came to be and clumped together to form bodies and systems. No I have heard all that before, and it proves naught that God created the…[Read more]

]]> 077748759b8c70faf88c1d34da2db6b9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/55/#post-74482 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:43:48 +1300 Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2007,21:34)Could someone (including apes) explain to me how nothing became the cosmos.I am not interested in the matter vs antimatter war, or how matter came to be and clumped together to form bodies and systems. No I have heard all that before, and it proves naught that God created the cosmos.No what I want to know is how…[Read more]

]]> 6b971ba1dd6b84b26c28f284c4f75e8d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/thanks/page/5/#post-74422 Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:01:45 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2007,16:55)Hi MorningstarQuote What Christianity really is (and I know all organizations claim their understandings that each conflict, but specificaly just using the teachings of Jesus) is to believe Christ and follow his example. His doctrine is for us to put love first. To God and to each other. This gets alot of lip…[Read more]

]]> d47d30b85ff032c3b88f179a8c2f0956 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/thanks/page/5/#post-74421 Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:51:27 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2007,16:55)Hi MorningstarQuote What Christianity really is (and I know all organizations claim their understandings that each conflict, but specificaly just using the teachings of Jesus) is to believe Christ and follow his example. His doctrine is for us to put love first. To God and to each other. This gets alot of lip…[Read more]

]]> cdc90bc7206a9ba00df842132c3d0a20 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/it-doesnt-work/#post-74349 Sun, 09 Dec 2007 14:27:46 +1300 Quote (martian @ Dec. 08 2007,09:24)I have been off this site (mostly) for some time. I am not surprised that the arguments are still the same. The so called “proofs” people use are the same and nothing is changed or accomplished. I think there is a good reason for this. It is primarily due to the fact that scriptural proof has never worked to det…[Read more]

]]> 5a05d5a4d4f520ae4e3814dd78a32e84 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/54/#post-74341 Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:07:35 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2007,16:36)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 09 2007,15:25)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2007,14:51)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 09 2007,12:48)I was mostly hoping you would see that evolution and science only gives data of processes.The final conclusions made in both camps are usually just philosophy.To the best of our knowledge, gravity force…[Read more]

]]> 8b54a52b2039854359f0fb0f5cff6941 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/54/#post-74325 Sun, 09 Dec 2007 04:25:35 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2007,14:51)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 09 2007,12:48)I was mostly hoping you would see that evolution and science only gives data of processes.The final conclusions made in both camps are usually just philosophy.To the best of our knowledge, gravity force changes in proportion to the inverse square of the distance everywhere in…[Read more]

]]> fae924fdff28150a7fb8b9b34e2ec077 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/54/#post-74322 Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:48:49 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2007,02:20)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 09 2007,00:16)Stu,Would you please listen to the lecture on the link found on this webpage when you have a chance?http://www.pepperdine.edu/pr/releases/2007/november/milleraudio.htmHi MorningstarAs you know, and is discussed in this programme, Kenneth Miller was instrumental in…[Read more]

]]> 2f41d598938c91acaed541fac448cacb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-people-believe-strange-things/page/6/#post-74321 Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:44:53 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 09 2007,09:24)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 08 2007,19:26)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 08 2007,16:25)Hi MorningstarQuote Perhaps, interventions have been detected but remain in the “not understood” category. Perhaps.  Regardless of whether they are understood or not, such events or phenomena cannot be attributed to a deity without reason.…[Read more]

]]> cdc0d46b7b974fe79829482fd6b3b6e5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/54/#post-74289 Sat, 08 Dec 2007 13:16:56 +1300 Stu,Would you please listen to the lecture on the link found on this webpage when you have a chance?http://www.pepperdine.edu/pr/releases/2007/november/milleraudio.htm

]]> f64622a85c72bb0c17f11bf0152c6df3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/53/#post-74288 Sat, 08 Dec 2007 13:12:55 +1300 Evidence from a personal nature, means my philosophy.Why don't I use scientific method in all cases, because it can't be used to answer “certain” questions I want answered. I want these answer before death and don't have the time to wait on something that science might never be able to answer anyway.Ask yourself what you think the First Cause is.…[Read more]

]]> 4940cea701fec598f9e73b0ba068ff67 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/thanks/page/4/#post-74283 Sat, 08 Dec 2007 12:22:19 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 08 2007,22:47)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2007,05:33)Hi Stu, I agree that following Jesus is decidely illogical but how resilient is logic in the face of death?But I am old enough to cling to the light God sent in scripture that shines beyond human life.It is worth it.Hi NickTo be fair to you, if you set your worldview to the…[Read more]

]]> 2d420839e4723f7220d09eac982b4bb3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-people-believe-strange-things/page/5/#post-74277 Sat, 08 Dec 2007 08:26:43 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 08 2007,16:25)Hi MorningstarQuote Perhaps, interventions have been detected but remain in the “not understood” category. Perhaps.  Regardless of whether they are understood or not, such events or phenomena cannot be attributed to a deity without reason.  You can just as validly say that no events of this kind have ever been c…[Read more]

]]> 9e692eb3e6124de605dc99e82d33227b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/should-some-forums-be-restricted/page/14/#post-74269 Sat, 08 Dec 2007 01:05:57 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 08 2007,07:57)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 08 2007,01:08)That was pretty robust Stu, but it didn't really answer the question.  It demonstrated some interpretations of scientific data on processes, but did not demonstrate anything beyond processes.The bible says God rested after creation.  To me this says he set in motion these p…[Read more]

]]> 9bc615f1bec7b0d40806d77371e2386e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-people-believe-strange-things/page/5/#post-74260 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:11:00 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 08 2007,05:29)Hi MS, Philosophy is vanity. It gets a bad rap in scripture.Acts 17″ 16Now while Paul waited for them at Athens, his spirit was stirred in him, when he saw the city wholly given to idolatry. 17Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with…[Read more]

]]> 49e9cf31e959c936e726cb13bd4c2387 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/should-some-forums-be-restricted/page/14/#post-74246 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:08:08 +1300 That was pretty robust Stu, but it didn't really answer the question. It demonstrated some interpretations of scientific data on processes, but did not demonstrate anything beyond processes.The bible says God rested after creation. To me this says he set in motion these processes that do not require him to directly intervene in order for them to…[Read more]

]]> d2e55eee1985ba8ebb3138c0a6949bd0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-people-believe-strange-things/page/5/#post-74245 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:02:02 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 08 2007,00:50)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 08 2007,00:23)I think God sustains the universe and occasionaly intervenes in acts that many would call a supernatural manner.  Which would actually be a very natural act just not understood.An intervention would have to be 'extra' to the laws such a deity had original set in place…[Read more]

]]> bb0ea6c2deb4d3dcac6f36838d4aa54b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/dead-men-in-heaven/#post-74240 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:29:42 +1300 Is paradise and heaven the same place?Not according to the aprocrypha. Some hold these books don't have any scriptural merit and maybe so. However, these books demonstrate what believers considered true at that junction of history.

]]> 553f2935a54dbc7b8dc70536146ee64d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-people-believe-strange-things/page/5/#post-74239 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:23:02 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 07 2007,20:56)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 07 2007,18:59)Quote (Stu @ Dec. 07 2007,18:44)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 07 2007,17:19)In the end whatever results as the final irreducable “thing” is God to me.  Even if the final reduction truly demonstrated a string of cyclical functions like the infinity symbol illustrates, then that…[Read more]

]]> 24ae830566df06dc57ca15197e52c32d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-people-believe-strange-things/page/5/#post-74197 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 07:59:34 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 07 2007,18:44)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 07 2007,17:19)In the end whatever results as the final irreducable “thing” is God to me.  Even if the final reduction truly demonstrated a string of cyclical functions like the infinity symbol illustrates, then that collective is God.Thus defining God is the real intent of my focus.So on…[Read more]

]]> 601913c16e7684569b2395447706e1bf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-people-believe-strange-things/page/5/#post-74196 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 07:54:45 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 07 2007,18:50)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 07 2007,17:12)I also don't believe in the “supernatural” in the sense that word is used.I believe that whatever is considered supernatural, if indeed true is actually natural but not understood.Now, if one means beyond or outside of nature or beyond understood nature then I would agree with…[Read more]

]]> 00682c3c6733b2aa4214fc663630166f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-people-believe-strange-things/page/5/#post-74188 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:19:59 +1300 In the end whatever results as the final irreducable “thing” is God to me. Even if the final reduction truly demonstrated a string of cyclical functions like the infinity symbol illustrates, then that collective is God.Thus defining God is the real intent of my focus.

]]> 6627b852af0edb6ae96315e9defc6694 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-people-believe-strange-things/page/4/#post-74187 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:12:16 +1300 I also don't believe in the “supernatural” in the sense that word is used.I believe that whatever is considered supernatural, if indeed true is actually natural but not understood.Now, if one means beyond or outside of nature or beyond understood nature then I would agree with that.

]]> fa6200b80b442034a795b0e8eea30b9d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-people-believe-strange-things/page/4/#post-74186 Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:09:43 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 07 2007,16:56)Hi MorningstarQuote I know beyond doubt there is a God it is only a matter of defining him / her / it. Regardless of whether God is a bearded man sitting on a throne in heaven or a quantim hiccup that manifests itself in a singularity that produces a big bang, God does exist.   For me God is the irreducible first…[Read more]

]]> 5a1a4934228e483cc2bf2a8b7fe7f546 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bible-trivia/page/25/#post-105483 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 23:07:43 +1300 Quote (IM4Truth @ Dec. 05 2007,17:16)How many days had the original Jewish year?300 days330 days360 days390 daysPeace and Love Mrs.360 i think

]]> dfe617cd46f6084112b7886b09af5f51 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-yhwh/page/32/#post-74055 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:02:06 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 06 2007,14:53)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 06 2007,14:33)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 06 2007,14:27)Hi MS, I AM seems like one being describing Himself.This logic to me seems like a traditional and philosophical approach to the meaning of that name/title.Is it I AM THAT I AMIs it I AM WHAT I WILL BEScholars are sure “exactly”…[Read more]

]]> 592ec6b2de42207e7ee01b0de6cf46d3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-yhwh/page/32/#post-74050 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:37:00 +1300 Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 06 2007,14:33)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 06 2007,14:27)Hi MS, I AM seems like one being describing Himself.This logic to me seems like a traditional and philosophical approach to the meaning of that name/title.Is it I AM THAT I AMIs it I AM WHAT I WILL BEScholars are sure “exactly” is meaning even.Did Jesus use this…[Read more]

]]> 2fc1a8d0aa003ed01ef00c7d96e66366 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-yhwh/page/32/#post-74049 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:33:24 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 06 2007,14:27)Hi MS, I AM seems like one being describing Himself.This logic to me seems like a traditional and philosophical approach to the meaning of that name/title.Is it I AM THAT I AMIs it I AM WHAT I WILL BEScholars are sure “exactly” is meaning even.Did Jesus use this expression when he said “I AM?”I know t8…[Read more]

]]> d7856a7bc50cc95dec31d7e56a9f926a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-yhwh/page/32/#post-74047 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:22:50 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 06 2007,14:18)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 06 2007,14:05)its the difference betweenTHE ELOHIM YHWH (the most high YAHWEH God)andthe yhwh elohim  (the yahweh gods) or for Nick's sake the yhwh bossesHi MS, One God identified Himself as “I am who am”.We should not go beyond scripture and apply it to others should we?See this…[Read more]

]]> 322234ef63b418430bf8b60021fd380b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-yhwh/page/32/#post-74042 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:09:35 +1300 Quote (t8 @ Dec. 06 2007,13:43)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 06 2007,10:56)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 06 2007,08:30)He went by the name YHWH?Or he represented YHWH?bothAre we called Jesus because we are in his name?Jesus is translated as YHWH SAVESMaybe mine will be YHWH has mercy (just fun speculation)Ephesians 5:1414For this reason I kneel before the Father,…[Read more]

]]> c89493a56b1fd29827a731ae41aae91b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-yhwh/page/32/#post-74041 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:05:40 +1300 its the difference betweenTHE ELOHIM YHWH (the most high YAHWEH God)andthe yhwh elohim (the yahweh gods) or for Nick's sake the yhwh bosses

]]> 2b26610ce6af357fb2e180a860801412 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-yhwh/page/32/#post-74040 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:02:47 +1300 Quote (t8 @ Dec. 06 2007,13:43)Quote (Morningstar @ Dec. 06 2007,10:56)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 06 2007,08:30)He went by the name YHWH?Or he represented YHWH?bothAre we called Jesus because we are in his name?we get our new names at the end.

]]> af177bef10e39a0582c126d1190dde26 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-yhwh/page/32/#post-74033 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:49:57 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 06 2007,11:10)Hi, As Heb 1 tells us God has used many means of expressing His words over the eons. Prophets and angels have spoken for God and only recently has the Son been used. So to say that God has always spoken his words through Christ is incorrect.I dont mean that was his sole means of communicating. It was his…[Read more]

]]> b355b39c4d1a5b838a7049723dedcc2d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-yhwh/page/31/#post-74026 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:56:44 +1300 Quote (t8 @ Dec. 06 2007,08:30)He went by the name YHWH?Or he represented YHWH?both

]]> e09f73568fa9a71c6fd1b2aaffc81a1d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-yhwh/page/31/#post-74014 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:08:26 +1300 Do these verses bring any clarity to the fact that the Father uses titles and share them with his son?Ephesians 5:1414For this reason I kneel before the Father, 15from whom his whole family in heaven and on earth derives its name.Revelation 3:1212 The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God. Never shall he go out of it,…[Read more]

]]> 4fc7a4c6127690c55ecd957c21754842 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-yhwh/page/31/#post-74013 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:58:51 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2005,06:31)Hi cubes, The Father does not have a name. He does not need one. Only we and archangels need names as there are more than one of us. God is absolutely unique. What we use for Him are descriptive terms. Jesus came to present His wonderful loving nature to us and to join us in the same relationship that he has…[Read more]

]]> 42849dbe5e0bfe0ce7323233a88eecb3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-people-believe-strange-things/page/4/#post-73941 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:12:17 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Dec. 04 2007,20:35)Hi MorningstarQuote I was just stating the truth about how in an athiestic world view, ethics, justice and morality are just inventions of men independent of any higher standard. They could even be said to be geographical and based on majority. To a certain extent this is right.  I think many laws are written-down…[Read more]

]]> 1dd0d5f4a952a89c56b3c0c008492299 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-people-believe-strange-things/page/4/#post-73932 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:45:41 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Nov. 16 2007,17:43)Hi MorningstarQuote good point Stu.  Truly without God (higher power a true source of somekind) then there really is not “meaning of life”.Are you telling me my life has no meaning?  Can you hear me laughing from where you are?Quote The only meaning life would have is what each one of us decides to give it. Yes, a…[Read more]

]]> c7ae11a3f9ded5db8a2dffa619f51861 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bible-trivia/page/25/#post-105479 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:28:08 +1300 Jacoba. tricked his father into sacrificing him on a mountainb. tricked his father into blessing himc. tricked Laban into giving him his sheepd. tricked Esau into eating stew

]]> 4b7fb04401b7fb7d165c41279c9d45df http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bible-trivia/page/25/#post-105478 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:24:39 +1300 It's ok no worries. but I did quote scripture accurately, like I said it just depends on the translation you use. Sorry I didn't realize the differences in translation concerning this verse.NIV 14Alexander the metalworker did me a great deal of harm. The Lord will repay him for what he has done.KJV14Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the…[Read more]

]]> aec0ca6ebd9b185dee53c6bbbbe69663 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bible-trivia/page/25/#post-105476 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:11:09 +1300 Quote (IM4Truth @ Dec. 04 2007,14:23)Morningstar I did not know what it was. So I looked it up.  In2 Timothy 4:14 it says that Alexander was a coppersmith. So what you say, we are both wrong? Give me another question.Peace and Love Mrs. lol,last time I check copper was metal.It's the difference in which translation you use.coppersmithor Metalworker

]]> ddb11ea9a0ea37fae2f87da20909fa2d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gnosticism/page/4/#post-73904 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:51:50 +1300 Charity,Maybe I am just tired, but I can't for the life of me understand what you are saying.Maybe, if you clarified I could answer your question.

]]> 42525591f6cab75b8c9d03cb94eaef86 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/bible-trivia/page/25/#post-105474 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:48:51 +1300 Quote (IM4Truth @ Dec. 04 2007,10:42)Morningstar Alexander the High Priest.Peace and Love Mrs. Sorry, try again

]]> 3a3b9f0a5da8fa17c9d7e6627b765835 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gnosticism/page/3/#post-73875 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:11:36 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 04 2007,09:08)Hi MS, Rather they had esoteric understandings from outside of the Word of God that they believed in and thus showed their lack of knowledge of the ways of God and the respect due to the Word of God. Their foundation was false and their leaving was the natural result of that rebellion.2Jn” 9Whosoever…[Read more]

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