https://heavennet.net/members/John/activity/ Activity feed for John. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 60e3006b400369ad94635da3860a19a4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-the-holy-spirit/page/2/#post-3389 Tue, 17 Feb 2004 04:02:10 +1300 Hi ringo111,I use the KJV bible as my main study bible but I will also refer to other translations because if you understand human nature you will find that most of the bibles have the translators personal beliefs worked into the texts. As far as the disciples not knowing these things, there are many things in which the disciples did not have a…[Read more]

]]> e2ae035f36c21e2216ffd71bf1b36558 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-the-holy-spirit/#post-3374 Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:13:57 +1300 Hi t8,I understand how you feel, I too would like to understand these things. I believe the trinity doctrine came to be because men of the past who searched these things out were lost for words to explain these things. The trinity doctrine almost seems to be a frustrated attempt to try and make scripture fit.The way I have been looking at all of…[Read more]

]]> 3641deca22ae2397658d0c72bb537a68 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-the-holy-spirit/#post-3373 Mon, 16 Feb 2004 04:41:55 +1300 Hi t8,What are the questions you are asking regarding the verses you listed?Many blessing,John

]]> c07cffd42afa7fc02146d8925280dba2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-evil/#post-3216 Mon, 16 Feb 2004 04:20:34 +1300 Hi t8,When I read God’s word I try to understand the spiritual application of His word, in other words, I try to learn how what God is saying applies to me inwardly.I understand that the tree of good and evil was to test us. But I don’t look at the literal tree but rather what the tree represents.In God’s word a tree or wood is a picture of a…[Read more]

]]> 2a65f4624972f7d971e08231d057beb4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-baptism/#post-3526 Mon, 16 Feb 2004 03:26:08 +1300 Hi ringo111,Acts 2:38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. I’ll break this verse down to it’s inward application. To repent means to turn away or to change your mind. To baptize or immerse is to wash. The name…[Read more]

]]> 2633339f3d061d15745227523afe7254 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-baptism/#post-3525 Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:55:26 +1300 Hi ringo111,All throughout God’s word He gives us outward pictures that we can see and study to help us understand spiritual truth.Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:Water in…[Read more]

]]> 6766e129def92a62a165b04c2ef61355 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-baptism/#post-3524 Fri, 13 Feb 2004 20:15:12 +1300 Hi ringo111,I can see by how you understand scripture that you are still in the letter which kills and have not understood the spiritual.Tell me, how does one become born of water? Do you think by putting someone under water they are born of it or do you think the more biblical understanding of this is being born from above by the word of God.The…[Read more]

]]> 51765292c95d6c540d6c6956907e2f62 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-baptism/#post-3523 Fri, 13 Feb 2004 14:12:47 +1300 Hi ringo111,Did you notice the verse on water baptism being a figure. This tells me that I sould not focus on the outward or the figure but rather what the figure represents.Repentance takes place in the heart. When the kingdom of God was ushered in water baptism was used as a picture or figure to help us understand. If you look in God’s word, He…[Read more]

]]> fe5d030a919d2b92c01ea13a39afb71c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-baptism/#post-3522 Fri, 13 Feb 2004 12:41:41 +1300 Hi ringo111,I’m not at my laptop so I do have access to the verses.God’s word says there is one baptism. Which baptism is it referring to, the water or the Spirit baptism.I agree with the understanding that the willingess to be water baptized reveals a willingness to repent but repentence still takes place in the heart and life of the one…[Read more]

]]> 228d7ea97989920b02cbd9dacdce4da9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-the-holy-spirit/#post-3372 Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:58:34 +1300 Hi ringo111,The Holy Spirit or the Spirit of God is God’s presence in power and wisdom throughout all creation and time. God is all powerful and has all knowledge. There is no where you can go to escape His presence.Psalms 139:7 Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, "Ananias, why has…[Read more]

]]> 824e970ca5b0e0d878261477840f72a7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-the-holy-spirit/page/2/#post-3385 Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:33:01 +1300 Hi ringo111,I’ll try using your tactic in trying to get an answer.Well, mister brick wall, you haven’t answered my question. I hope people are reading this forum. Maybe you don’t have the answer. I’ll try again…What is your definition of the Godhead? ; )By the way, I’m not a trinitarian.Many blessings,John

]]> f3e10300e1628255545a0e35b4da42d2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-baptism/#post-3532 Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:19:05 +1300 Quote Quote: from ringo111 on 3:00 am on Feb. 13, 2004If it is only a sighn- explain this- Luke 7:29-3029(All the people, even the tax collectors, when they heard Jesus’ words, acknowledged that God’s way was right, because they had been baptized by John. 30But the Pharisees and experts in the law rejected God’s purpose for themselves, because…[Read more]

]]> 0e43dc4c0cfa121ed96a0963278cac0b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-baptism/#post-3531 Thu, 12 Feb 2004 10:52:06 +1300 Quote Quote: from ringo111 on 8:43 pm on Feb. 12, 2004you john say-1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect. Christ did not send Paul to baptize with water, but to teach the simple message of the Cross which is God’s love…[Read more]

]]> 65d9aa5883265307f29d06a0f4dcadad http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-the-holy-spirit/page/2/#post-3384 Thu, 12 Feb 2004 10:47:13 +1300 Quote Quote: from ringo111 on 7:57 pm on Feb. 12, 2004I will use your own scripture quoteYoou John sAY-"John 16:13He will glorify me, since all he reveals to you will be taken from what is mine."********************I ringo111 sayAgain He is talking about the Holy spirit as a seperate person from himself- and besides this- Ive allready proven in my…[Read more]

]]> 06d37246eeb4c1df2b6fc1890f16c9a9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-evil/#post-3215 Thu, 12 Feb 2004 10:42:01 +1300 Quote Quote: from t8 on 7:59 pm on Feb. 12, 2004Hi John, I am very open to understanding truth and I want to challenge what you have said in this discussion (your first post), not to prove you wrong or to prove I am right, but only to discover truth for all of us, even if it proves or disproves your words.Your point about evil seems to me to be…[Read more]

]]> 4e5259058ef0b8e0127e217df79fd1c7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-evil/#post-3214 Thu, 12 Feb 2004 04:38:54 +1300 Hi ringo111,I guess you’re not getting what I’m saying.(your statement)If Jesus was himself being sent- then he would have said ‘I myself will be sent to you’ But he did not!!! Instead Jesus said (God’s word)John 14I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. So Jesus does say He Himself will come.(your statement)John 14:16 16 And I will…[Read more]

]]> 7ffbe2c2a418a7f5b8e7310ad2786e70 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-the-holy-spirit/page/2/#post-3383 Thu, 12 Feb 2004 04:23:36 +1300 Hi ringo111,John 16:13-16 However, when the Spirit of truth comes he will lead you to the complete truth, since he will not be speaking of his own accord, but will say only what he has been told; and he will reveal to you the things to come. He will glorify me, since all he reveals to you will be taken from what is mine. Everything the Father has…[Read more]

]]> 959ef8679e3ed3e45d9da999154d0555 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-evil/#post-3213 Thu, 12 Feb 2004 04:00:24 +1300 Hi ringo111john 14 16-18 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to…[Read more]

]]> f7531242342865bf339c0c9dd95a38e4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-the-holy-spirit/#post-3368 Thu, 12 Feb 2004 01:53:45 +1300 Hi ringo111, Most of the bibles out there are of a trinitarian desent in which they will twist and add to scripture to make the trinity doctrine more acceptable such as 1 John 5:7.Throughout eternity there was only the Spirit of God (Father) and now at the coming of the last days we now have the Holy Spirit. This Holy Spirit came to be at the…[Read more]

]]> b230e2f65e13b625edd4e6ddfdd325b9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-evil/#post-3212 Thu, 12 Feb 2004 01:42:55 +1300 Quote Quote: from ringo111 on 8:17 am on Feb. 12, 2004"If we trust in the only begotten Son of God, Jesus Christ. If we hear Him and obey Him, He will correct our understanding in these matters of good and evil. We will be able to discern what is the sanctified good and evil in life in order to make the right choice. ""Hebrews 5:14 But solid food…[Read more]

]]> c1133405ca4f1677d50b5d2e088c1d64 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-baptism/#post-3530 Sat, 07 Feb 2004 19:43:59 +1300 Hi thehappyman,The church are people that have the mind of Christ, who are obeying the truth that comes from the Father through the Son to His people/person.The congregation are those who gather in like minded faith. There are many people in the literal church who do not have the mind of Christ and do not obey the truth. God will make this known…[Read more]

]]> 13a41dd980eabb39db8e4f075ed79574 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-jesus-as-god/#post-3209 Thu, 05 Feb 2004 10:31:18 +1300 Understanding Jesus as GodTo understand Jesus as God we will start with the first commandment.Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.Notice how our heavenly Father says no other gods with an "s", that means there are other gods out there.2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,…[Read more]

]]> ac47d2bc7b7828bbab5e603d52080eb7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-faith-and-works/#post-3205 Thu, 05 Feb 2004 01:24:42 +1300 Hi thehappyman,I believe salvation is a two fold process. First is coming to the understanding that God’s loves us and has expressed this love in the fact that He gave His only begotten Son. Coming to this understanding reveals to us that in the shedding of Christ’s blood God forgives us. This draws us near to the Father, in other words, we turn…[Read more]

]]> ac03f0f4528ab4354fff21b0ff0cf682 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-faith-and-works/#post-3204 Wed, 04 Feb 2004 03:57:05 +1300 Understanding Faith and works Titus 3:5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, Titus tells us that we are not saved by the works that we have done. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of…[Read more]

]]> ce848631a076581d26068b6c94f8a334 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-the-holy-spirit/#post-3367 Tue, 03 Feb 2004 21:45:14 +1300 Hello to everyone,Jesus and the Holy Spirit are the same.John 14:17-18 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.Jesus here was speaking of the coming Holy Spirit. He…[Read more]

]]> 3de4c20a66e1aafcf086060674543af5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-baptism/#post-3529 Tue, 03 Feb 2004 10:55:22 +1300 Hi t8,Baptism is not part of the law, it was given as a figure or shadow as an outward picture to help us understand an inward spiritual truth. 1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus…[Read more]

]]> 04427515c54fec85a49887cf0f335cb7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-baptism/#post-3528 Tue, 03 Feb 2004 02:50:51 +1300 Understanding baptismAs we grow in God’s word we will begin to see how in God’s word there is a literal understanding (outward) and a spiritual understanding (inward). We will also begin to see how God uses created things to help us understand spiritual inward truths.Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are…[Read more]

]]> 4f0a48d6c345fc5eb626f63eaffe4596 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-evil/#post-3217 Mon, 02 Feb 2004 10:51:21 +1300 Greetings in the name of Jesus,When I study I try to use the bible to interpret words that I find in the verses I’m studying. Over the years I have learned that there is a literal (outward) understanding of the bible and a spiritual (inward) understanding. It’s the inward understanding that brings life, the letter kills but the spirit brings…[Read more]

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