https://heavennet.net/members/Istari/activity/ Activity feed for Istari. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 55753b2927d8a253da90282eef90ce3d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/248/#post-252320 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:49:31 +1200 Quote *Quote* (Istari @ July 13 2011,10:16)How is it said that I am personal yet i post many many things of scriptural nature WHICH ARE IGNORED.Then SOMEONE SAYS I HAVE NOT ANSWERED THEM.they ignore what I say of Scriptures saying only that I insulted themAnd yet Terraricca posts against me saying NOTHING BUT 'You know nothing' with no content of…[Read more]

]]> def8264f30e75b3e92998a4a13d08086 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/247/#post-252316 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:38:02 +1200 Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 13 2011,15:11)Quote (Istari @ July 12 2011,21:09)Ok, much more to say from the little I have said…       That post was exactly 1833 words, dude!  And that's your “little” post?       Istari, you talk too much.Mikeboll,That was EXACTLY 16 word (Not including the content of the quote, numbers, expansion of apostr…[Read more]

]]> 56a60974a596f041fa6097191cc24870 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/247/#post-252314 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:24:52 +1200 Oops, here comes realityOops, not Mr PopularityHe's here to bring clarityNot seeking for vanityHe showed faith, hope and charityIt didn't save him from calamityThey made fun, thought it HilaritySaid this man talks pure fantasyYes, the saviour of humanityWas hurt by their vulgarityThey laugh and they scornAt the truth that was borneBut he resisted…[Read more]

]]> b22e352d641e91e12828ad5ad3d48eb1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/247/#post-252295 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:57:21 +1200 Terraricca,Excellent post.Your last post really summed up everything about you.Thank you for your exciting opinions concerning the SPIRITUAL BODY.

]]> 7cdaa4ba7052c96f5025ea743fb4d81f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/247/#post-252278 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:35:18 +1200 It is unbelievable that Terraricca says to me 'Do not speak of the dead' when 1 Corinth 15 is speaking concerning THE DEAD and how they are raised up.I don't get it. Terraricca just seems to pour unspirituralness over everything I say with totally disregard to it's content.I think his response is a testament to himself and his own behaviour in…[Read more]

]]> 1283ae73a39578d16fc26ae4a337bfc5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/preexistence-part-2/page/68/#post-252246 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:57:39 +1200 Only one point though.A righteous person – like Moses, or David ..could call down Angels to fight for them … The Angels are Angels of God – not Jesus – but Jesus could pray (Petition) his father for help. Just as anyone who is called 'Son of God' could do if need be.Jesus had AUTHORITY over the fallen Angels – but All men of righteousness do,…[Read more]

]]> 314b0b303a9dc81127a26c55e09bc14d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/preexistence-part-2/page/68/#post-252245 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:47:45 +1200 Wow Mike,What a lot you write – and you accuse me?(vous m'accusez)?Anyway, just to let you know I read it all .. And you are right in this regard.Sorry Gene, but I'm in the preExistent camp.I think you are right about many things concerning jesus life while on earth and about Spirit Bodies of MANKIND, though.

]]> c0bae56be564faa17c9f10dc7f2d59c0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/where-is-god-4/page/10/#post-252244 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:23:26 +1200 If, as Mikeboll has been so vehement in the past, that God and Spirits are not EVERYWHERE then it would certainly be true then that one could 'Hide' from God.I am pleased that Mikeboll has now started walking towards truth by at least saying what he said in the quote.Just a little while longer and he will be convinced that God is EVERYWHERE ALL…[Read more]

]]> c9760bc50ebca40f680463ecf2c03a29 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/where-is-god-4/page/10/#post-252243 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 06:12:28 +1200 Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 13 2011,13:00)Hi Marty,I agree with your post, except I think we have different understandings of God dwelling “IN” someone.  I don't think the Being of God could ever be within a human being.But I do agree that God CAN BE anywhere and everywhere He wants to be through Spirit OR in Person.  But He is not ALWAYS “…[Read more]

]]> 0f42090ece47f813602a4f2bd1a35a83 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/where-is-god-4/page/10/#post-252241 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:59:10 +1200 Who is the ONE PERSON WHO VOTED FOR the first item …. in the poll?

]]> 6d5645e3b6163adce9e8be303d76e183 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/where-is-god-4/page/10/#post-252240 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:58:08 +1200 WM,Jesus is the image of God…Is not MAN also the Image of God?

]]> 8eaa7c19b2cbc0b5e40eb197c8109a1e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/247/#post-252235 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:33:16 +1200 Yes, and I can guess who those 5 reports are from too.It's strange though that no report was made to me about the reports.If some one is reported then that person should be informed that they have been reported.If an error is made and no one informs the error maker that they made an error he will make the error again and again and again and…[Read more]

]]> f207982ac18bd41d1930556c57bcba50 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/247/#post-252233 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 05:12:40 +1200 Paul did not make any distinction between types of persons who were to be raised from the dead in Spiritual Bodies…What IS A SPIRITUAL BODY…?The SPIRIT – rests with God.The Body – rests in the Grave.Does the SPIRIT that rests with God have a Body?The body …..that is raised from the dead …. has a SPIRIT ….. put back into it …..to make…[Read more]

]]> ea5a22208a23d6ce9e4ee959ee4364f1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/247/#post-252229 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 04:56:35 +1200 Quote (terraricca @ July 13 2011,15:20)Quote (shimmer @ July 13 2011,22:12)Terrarica, Jesus said that with faith you can do anything and I do believe this.  I agree that it can also be used in the wrong way.  And I also agree, that changing your lifestyle has to go with healing.shimmer in live the rule is this what a men sows is what he will r…[Read more]

]]> a212ad90ec7f8b265175f749beefdbac http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/246/#post-252223 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 04:46:09 +1200 Ah poor Terraricca, you learning from another here.When someone posts what you can't refute just tell them they are wrong…You know, it was really enjoyable writing what I wrote – very 'COMING TOGETHER' of thoughts – linked together – not a hop skip or jump, not a pop, hiss or slide… Just Smooth grooves … Hitting home – don't touch that…[Read more]

]]> 545f9e60fdb7e72cb75c6fcf356a6f81 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/246/#post-252220 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 04:33:39 +1200 Mikeboll64 just sent me this:Quote Quote (,July 13 2011 @ 14:27)You have been warned by a staff member. Your warning level has not been incremented, however, this is a possibility for the future.You have been warned from the following post: http://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y303064 <!–QuoteBegin–>Quote <!–QuoteEBegin–>Mikeboll says he can…[Read more]

]]> 3689cb57b46f69d160ba1b8dbc78c857 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/245/#post-252205 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 03:49:11 +1200 Maybe Shimmer is showing Mike what it's like when others agree with you – out of turn… Except that I take no credit for what Shimmer believes.If she posts well – I say so – if not I say nothing!

]]> 6b4c954814c275c59f2cdbe51d94fd7d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/245/#post-252204 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 03:46:45 +1200 Oh dear oh dear… Another Mikebollism…'Lean not on thine own understanding'…Irene is clearly wrong on resurrection… Shimmer made this one point concerning JWs as a pointed remark. And I have said the same.It is not that we say that Irene is a JW – just that point. It is also said about the Sadducees who do not believe in the resurrection -…[Read more]

]]> f5352114393d240c11461516f17bf322 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/245/#post-252196 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 03:24:31 +1200 Just see Mikeboll's bravery – you know when a strong man walks away from a bully.. What happens: the bully thinks he's 'WON' and starts throwing verbals at the strong back of the man…Yeah, yeah, Mike… Tears are rolling down your inner cheeks even now.You say you learnt from Terraricca – what? How to fling empty nonsense – yes Mikeboll. But…[Read more]

]]> 7c7e21df150b882b8e53f4aa76ad779d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/245/#post-252192 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 03:09:47 +1200 Terraricca,Once again I have no idea what you just said.If I did I would answer you.Perhaps someone else could clarify it for me?To TRY to answer:First up, Terraricca, the THREAD TOPIC is 'DO SPIRITS (Angel, God, the Holy Spirit) have Bodies (In Heaven) (To clarify – this was known from the start so don't say I'm adding it in now – that was ALWAYS…[Read more]

]]> 879280842eb3d6fbca5e438fece0618f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/244/#post-252171 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 00:58:36 +1200 Mikeboll,I have no dealing with you in this thread any more.You are the worst of all these in this thread because you are adopting your views so as to conform with EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING FROM THE BEGINNING -while all the time DENYING AND VILLIFYING EVERYTHING I SAID.In the end you will AGREE with me and yet say of yourself 'THAT IS WHAT…[Read more]

]]> 1c2430f9f14a0684661dcae744bf1d43 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/244/#post-252165 Wed, 13 Jul 2011 00:14:52 +1200 Terraricca,Please explain what is the “IT” in your quote as pertaining to 1 Corinth 15:42.'And so also it will be with the resurrection,The body is sown in Corruption, IT is raised in Incorruption'How can that be faithfully rephrased:'the body that is put into the ground in a corrupted stateIs the same body that is raised but in an incorrupted…[Read more]

]]> aad3368da81e835279a27c3ebe009807 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/244/#post-252156 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:32:51 +1200 Too true, Gene, too true..

]]> fcdd5f9daf1e1975edab2e5b825e0245 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/243/#post-252146 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:46:44 +1200 Irene and Terraricca,Two questions:1) What do you understand by 'Resurrection' (Perhaps I am not understanding what this means)?2) What do you understand by the terms 'Earthy and 'HeavenLy' in context what you quote above?My understanding is as follows:1) The COMING BACK TO LIFE in the BODY that was dead.The undyable Spirit of the dead (Fish,…[Read more]

]]> dd21aebf8e465013bd78c5473cd030ce http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/243/#post-252136 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:33:12 +1200 Sorry,EPHESIANS 4:24 (Not Hebrews 4:25…)

]]> 797864d422f6a0281db00d24a509e1eb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/243/#post-252094 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:36:46 +1200 But we have learned a lot about each other and about the resurrection of the dead.- hey, in the SPIRIT of things, maybe someone could start a thread on that MATTER – here's now there's a thought, eh!!

]]> bbe7f7afb39976d385ad3cfaf3f8ded1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/243/#post-252092 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:33:27 +1200 Gene,Thanks for your spiritual support.Your words are 'Righteous and Holy' (Hebrews 4:25) in this regard.Someone, in a very recent post, said that “It does not matter with what body the dead will rise.”Saint Paul, in answer to Corinthian's hardheadedess, said “But some will say 'With what bodies will the dead be raised?”then he calls them…[Read more]

]]> 88134cb41f0dd09878f6d611909f7293 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/242/#post-252017 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:12:44 +1200 Ok,The devil is too strong for me – I'm out of here…Scriptures says God will send a Spirit of delusion so as to make them fail to understand – and this is clear in this thread…Goodbye..

]]> cfcc972581746858aadd3f80d232f676 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/242/#post-252014 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:08:21 +1200 And SPIRITUAL BODY:Hebrews 4: 22-24, “that you PUT OFF, concerning your former conduct, the old man (sinful nature of the NATURAL BODY) which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts,And be Renewed in the Spirit of your MIND,and that you PUT ON the new Man (The Spiritual Nature) which was created according to God, in true righteousness and…[Read more]

]]> ab70aa3a53f1a4c7d8ac95579464aba0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/242/#post-251996 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:25:29 +1200 Mikeboll's LAST STRAW is to DEMAND FROM SHIMMER an answer to how Paul is looking forward to having his body transform to that like jesus has and becoming a citizen of Heaven.Mike doesn't understand what 'Being a Citizen' means even as he should know that Paul was a citizen of Rome, conforming to the rules, laws, regulations, privileges,…[Read more]

]]> 0d5522c40653a5000a17d768f53b0d54 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/241/#post-251993 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:15:21 +1200 And I ask for a definition of SPIRIT – nothing …They are so SCARED – FEARFILLED that they DARE NOT try to even defend their claim.Why not: Because to define 'Spirit' so we agree on what we discussing, is to AGREE THAT 'SPIRIT' means 'Invisible, Disembodied, Immaterial'.In addition, SPIRITUAL does not mean SPIRIT…Mike stresses a point of…[Read more]

]]> 1a2a3c970fdbf06723f38bd42d52f7a2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/241/#post-251991 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:09:39 +1200 So obvious a missing point here is the definition of a SPIRITUAL BODY.Neither Mikeboll, Nor Irene WILL OFFER A DEFINITION.Irene hides behind her misunderstanding and just post the same verses over and over BECAUSE SHE DARE NOT POST ANYTHING ELSE.She dare not because there IS NOTHING ELSE that she can hide behind.An honest poster would even attempt…[Read more]

]]> dd14f69db5eb38be8116f040285def9c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/241/#post-251989 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 22:59:58 +1200 Ok guys,You have, all three shown you have a spirit of delusion and therefore it is impossible to show you truth.Mike, your agreement with Irene is Pathetic because nothing you agreed on was anything I said – so that was pure emptiness and shows that you will even agree with emptiness if you think it benefits you…Irene has SKEWED EVERYTHING in…[Read more]

]]> 6a91757b05a6014cc6513d3456607ff7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/241/#post-251970 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:45:14 +1200 It is just as I felt in my Spirit – just as I thought…Irene cannot, like Mikeboll, answer anything.She THINKS she is answering by writing words but they are just bumblings…What Irene is saying is that Jesus WAS NOT RAISED FROM THE DEAD (in a body) but directly as a SPIRIT…A little research on the internet shows that this is what JEHOVAH…[Read more]

]]> 3fb7c5e593ac71427cdf3b2ae7c6118e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/240/#post-251924 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:54:32 +1200 actually, Mikeboll might like to offer an opinion too – Mike?

]]> 9c3afa52d1b3d549b66be0a2fffad86b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/240/#post-251922 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:53:28 +1200 Irene,Add another point to that list:What does Galations 6:1 mean by the 'Spiritual Man' (Who are human beings in flesh and blood bodies)Please answer in the context of your misunderstand and relate it to 'SPIRIT MAN'.

]]> 242aee1a694312e3e50141ca3fd2bbe8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/240/#post-251921 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:50:24 +1200 Mike,I keep asking a question and you keep trying to hide from it hoping it will go away (Phew!!)What IS the SPIRIT in relation to the BODY?

]]> 2b3b7dda6df01763e03ee967606ca189 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/240/#post-251919 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:45:11 +1200 Mikeboll has shown again that he has nothing to say.Mike has nothing to offer – he is spent – dried up – wasted.Every so-called 'proof' he has brought to the table has been soundly trashed by reason and logic and commonsense (Commonsense I call 'God sense' for EVERYONE has it – well, all excepting Mikeboll, Terraricca and Irene, it seems ON THIS…[Read more]

]]> 9041d05fc76ff0fbd67ff70e250fbeb2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/240/#post-251914 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:29:32 +1200 Irene,For the purpose of the record – please tell us:1) what YOU MEAN by the SPIRITUAL BODY2) give some examples of where Scriptures alludes to suchLet me set some parameters – feel free t break them.1) 'Spiritual body' (SlB) is the term under consideration – not 'SPIRIT BODY'2) Jesus was RAISED FROM THE DEAD INTO SlB3) Jesus PROVED HIS RISING…[Read more]

]]> 3e88801eb9dd4b5883eba60119823fc9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/should-members-be-tiled-for-avoidance/page/23/#post-251874 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 01:22:08 +1200 Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 11 2011,04:13)Quote (Istari @ July 10 2011,02:24)1) Mike says (Said in the 'Begotten' Thread) that Jesus was not CREATED but is the direct SON OF GOD – but in this Thread he says that Jesus was PART OF THAT WHICH WAS CREATED… well, which was it?What?  Jesus is the firstborn of all creation, meaning he is the first thing…[Read more]

]]> 9f96c583e888027cefb9a2d51e379cd8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/239/#post-251867 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:49:46 +1200 Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 11 2011,02:48)Quote (shimmer @ July 10 2011,05:58)Does Spirit have a Body? Or does Spirit NEED a Body? NO!  But Spirit can be IN a body.  So… I can understand that from the point of view of Jesus being in Heaven – even if in Body… being with us in Spirit.Hi Shimmer,Very good.  Now consider the point Pierre and I ha…[Read more]

]]> 691ff29c1b3eeadc38f5e5ffbfd41fa4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/and-god-called-their-name-adam/page/2/#post-251847 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:24:42 +1200 It is a sure thing 'Terraricca' that YOU HAVE NOTHING TO SAY…Who are you?What are you following me around for?Stalking is an arrestable offence – don't you know?

]]> 4cf038cd266786e25bb2e946b6b88942 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/and-god-called-their-name-adam/page/2/#post-251846 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:22:52 +1200 Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2011,03:29)Quote (Istari @ July 11 2011,09:42)Terraricca,Do you have anything of worth to say – ever?istariyou really thing that you have ?PierreWho are you?

]]> 81e47dc3247d1989bbc21bafe8e49acf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/and-god-called-their-name-adam/page/2/#post-251845 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:19:48 +1200 T8's Heaven – that is…

]]> fa0b6553fef5c1ce1e4cc12b7bba680b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/and-god-called-their-name-adam/page/2/#post-251843 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:19:01 +1200 All is not right in Heaven!

]]> 2954c6d2fed516f492904d4823d2b74d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/and-god-called-their-name-adam/page/2/#post-251842 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:17:41 +1200 'T8…Mikeboll' – Hmmm – I sense something….!! (DV:SW)

]]> 1adcbf73918f238b709b064499e610bb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/and-god-called-their-name-adam/page/2/#post-251840 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:06:50 +1200 T8,I think you been 'hanging' with Mikeboll a little too long…What I wrote was EXACTLY RIGHT.ADAM is a TITLE… it is a word meaning 'MAN' or 'MANKIND' in full.The FIRST ADAM created by God was CALLED (Named) Adam after his own Species.Now what is hard to understand about that?If you continue to argue ADAM and Adam without the distinction…[Read more]

]]> fd69e9a301fdbd86272a199b753bf358 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/239/#post-251813 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:25:06 +1200 Mike,You have become the new WJ and KJ. It is true then that you do adopt other people's styles.You list both Istari and Gene together as if we were one.You do this to try and wound by making out that we are the same. That is narsty of you and shows how far you have fallen down the pit of deceit.I have stated my position on what Gene says and…[Read more]

]]> 06325dfd60c22d0dc6a02fdd70f63043 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/239/#post-251810 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:02:33 +1200 Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2011,02:31)astariQuote How did Mikeboll make so many vehement claims concerning this issue and not understand the context of the verse – this is amazing and just goes to show what desparate delusion does to one.It only took one Lookup to establish these facts which are supported by commonsense and Scriptures as well as…[Read more]

]]> db0ad14bbb91505bf58a4e98fce66b92 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-spirits-have-bodies/page/239/#post-251807 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 18:39:27 +1200 Hey Gene,I haven't watched whatever it is that Mike posted – but if you think it is as you say and you have clicked the 'Report as Abuse' button then let us see what t8 does say and do about it.Mike has reached the stage where he has nothing else to offer but lame blusterings : he doesn't even understand what being a 'Citizen of Heaven' means.Does…[Read more]

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