https://heavennet.net/members/Heavens/activity/ Activity feed for Heavens. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 50dd40e4a88fe8e009ddb9aea215649a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gratitude-forum/page/3/#post-82956 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:56:40 +1300 I obviously didn't remove myself properly, when I left, because I've received an email from this thread.I see that another `debate' has started, so I thought I'd post one more message.This thread is called the `gratitude thread' and at the beginning of it, the person who started the thread expressly asked that it be left to express things they are…[Read more]

]]> 96bfb786e0397f523aadb694fe92aba6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gratitude-forum/page/3/#post-82052 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:47:56 +1300 I'm grateful that, even if it was for a short time, I had the privilege of meeting you all.T8 – thank you for letting me join your website. I enjoyed reading through most of the forums and enjoyed your posts, and Nicks. Personally, I just found the constant barrage of `anti' posts by a couple of members a bit much. There seemed to be no refuge…[Read more]

]]> 5d685186e1127073c21c534c32e46ff4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/salvation-and-christian-theology/page/5/#post-82051 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:14:30 +1300 When you invade almost every thread there's no avoiding your posts.Anyway, you win. I'm off. God bless!

]]> 7179e49c5ce7ce5cf49c7b871d9587bc http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/salvation-and-christian-theology/page/5/#post-82048 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:28:34 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 18 2008,20:09)Is your faith so weak that it needs protecting from the real world?No.I live in the real world where I communicate with my fellow man in mostly positive ways. I go to a restaurant to enjoy a good meal – not to eat a lousy meal.I go to a night club to enjoy a good night out – not to have a lousy time.I join a…[Read more]

]]> 45c8a13fdca2fa6eadcae4201d77aa2b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/salvation-and-christian-theology/page/5/#post-82046 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:03:54 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 18 2008,18:05)Quote (kejonn @ Feb. 18 2008,14:09)Have you ever thought that many do not know what they need to be saved from?I need to be saved from the danger I pose that I may break some of the christian clubhouse rules.  I'm beginning to think that I need saving from such negativity! t8 There should be a few more `Believers…[Read more]

]]> 19ec2eda2ef006f7d6b92a385d22e9f5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jehovahs-witnesses-atre-they-christian/page/6/#post-82043 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:46:16 +1300 Quote (david @ Feb. 18 2008,03:03)I'm thinking this person is really old or you are really really nice in explaining that you're not interested.He's about 40, and, yes, I think I'm too soft on him.

]]> f2c49142cc80af7fb3efac143d23ec86 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gratitude-forum/page/3/#post-82041 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 07:36:39 +1300 I learnt a lot from Noah and the Ark. 1) Don't miss the boat. 2) Remember that we are all in the same boat. 3) Plan ahead. It wasn't raining when Noah built the Ark.4) Stay fit. When you're 600 years old, someone may ask you to do something big.5) Don't listen to critics; just get on with the job that needs to be done.6) Build your future on high…[Read more]

]]> 1e7dc91b41238073c6523686308f827d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/uncertainty/page/30/#post-82031 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:38:21 +1300 Quote (Not3in1 @ Feb. 18 2008,14:56)I never thought I would be here. Doubting Jesus Christ. But I never really read the bible either.I started asking all sorts of things when I started to read the Bible, but then I was reading it from go-to-whoa, like a novel. It wasn't until a friend suggested I do one of those `read-the-Bible-in-a-year' readings…[Read more]

]]> d285be47f5df72b8bf259a3c1b8ff217 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gratitude-forum/page/2/#post-82025 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:03:52 +1300 Hi! CharityYes, that's “me” on the right of the picture. Have you seen the `Favourite Things' thread?

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]]> e33a35a2f1982d688b119619c60ca730 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/a-vision-or-dream/page/2/#post-81935 Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:54:54 +1300 Quote (seek and you will find @ Feb. 17 2008,15:07)To all!  I never had a vision that was not scary.Mrs, I often have dreams that frighten me to the point that they wake me up. These dreams never have a real `story' or `message' to them and are never finished because the topic wakes me up suddenly.I wouldn't consider these dreams as visions as I…[Read more]

]]> 73ab10f10355290484f2aa6b54c3a030 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gratitude-forum/page/2/#post-81930 Sun, 17 Feb 2008 04:05:37 +1300 Quote (seek and you will find @ Feb. 17 2008,14:37)Quote (acertainchap @ Feb. 17 2008,13:13)Yes, like a wave or a hello for example.  Wow          Are you sure that you are chap?Welcome back. I love your new Aviator.Peace and Love Mrs.I love `chap's' new friendly avatar too.

]]> dcdd5fa750722fc9346cb2a6f49ddef3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/70/#post-81927 Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:44:29 +1300 Quote (acertainchap @ Feb. 17 2008,14:19)Quote (Heavens @ Feb. 16 2008,19:15)Others have what you want. Not that you'd admit that. I'd like to ask you if you'd admit it if you wanted something someone else had …I believe that anyone who was jealous, wished or longed for something that someone else enjoyed would say so at some stage.To use the…[Read more]

]]> d3ff4f8cba641e038c53db881622f872 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gratitude-forum/page/2/#post-81917 Sun, 17 Feb 2008 02:59:10 +1300

]]> ef2b0b6d8906a1d1623dca4292e9cdbf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/a-vision-or-dream/page/2/#post-81915 Sun, 17 Feb 2008 02:49:24 +1300 Quote (Samuel @ Feb. 13 2008,12:41)I had one just recently that I was preaching and I had this paranoid feeling as if people were not believing what I was saying. I'm not even a preacher. And, then I seen this box and it was empty…then I woke up.I had a dream similar to this once, in the sense that I was `preaching' to a small crowd (I'm not a…[Read more]

]]> 5d389a3831e3107a3725946d69f2a0f1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/uncertainty/page/27/#post-81899 Sun, 17 Feb 2008 01:12:56 +1300 Quote (Not3in1 @ Feb. 17 2008,11:50)If the god of this world is defeated as you say, why can Christians lose their salvation by giving into the temptations of this defeated one?Perhaps because we are only human, and imperfect?

]]> 91c5a1abea933708a625892bd10dc35f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/charles-darwin/page/7/#post-81866 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:54:02 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 16 2008,21:08)Hi Heavens(try saying that aloud…)It brings to mind the saying that uses `high heavens' in it, doesn't it? Sorry to detract from the debate, folks….. carry on!

]]> de90f9646c3621c60da5f40b8ec68d60 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jehovahs-witnesses-atre-they-christian/page/6/#post-81857 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:58:51 +1300 Quote (david @ Feb. 17 2008,01:52){Watchtower} is the most widely distributed religious journal on the planet.  On the idea of going from house to house, which some people are bothered by…explanation in original messageI have known several people who accepted the `Watchtower' when the JW's called on them (my grandmother being one). It always…[Read more]

]]> f9804aa5301a6999915350381e199025 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jehovahs-witnesses-atre-they-christian/page/5/#post-81852 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:36:11 +1300 Quote (david @ Feb. 17 2008,01:52)Quote JW's, Mormons, Avon Representatives, Insurance and Real Estate Agents darken my door with regular monotony, but I just tell them quietly that I'm not interested. Not sure about the others.  But I wouldn't consider the good news of the kingdom monotony.Heaven forbid! It's not His Word that is…[Read more]

]]> 131aa72963f54e95b9ab7a3ce0d12d57 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jehovahs-witnesses-atre-they-christian/page/5/#post-81850 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:30:39 +1300 Quote (TimothyVI @ Feb. 16 2008,23:32)Heavens…..don't ever change your Avatar……it makes me laugh! quote]Those are a male and female bird.Can you tell which one is the female?   We wouldn't have to guess if the bird on the left had a tv remote in his hand.

]]> c5b1afad57ae83cbc3960d872eeb9d08 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/69/#post-81820 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:35:21 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 16 2008,20:11)Quote No thanks, got better things to do.Besides, do you ever think a squawking bird and an ape who can't see will ever agree?  I don't know.  What if the squawking bird was also an ape?You can get into all sorts of trouble when you start mixing up the species.

]]> 37ea6a109aaf6d16022456830f86f6cf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/sesame-street-cosmology/page/3/#post-81817 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:28:16 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 16 2008,20:20)The law of blasphemy is unenforceable and contrary to principles of free speech.  How many believers in this forum, if polled, would say that they don’t mind if the government repeals the blasphemy law?Time to go to bed.

]]> ff9eb19c343fa74046a8b85004100fb9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/uncertainty/page/27/#post-81814 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:18:54 +1300 Quote (Not3in1 @ Feb. 16 2008,19:57)I don't mean to sound so curt.  And I do appreciate your suggestion very much!    It's just……I've already tried to talk to pastor's and those who should be “in the know”………and they don't know.  It's disheartening, to say the very least.No offence taken.I can't imagine how frustrating it must be for you…[Read more]

]]> 13cb5aac7cff33ebcf1b9b7b87943253 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/uncertainty/page/27/#post-81813 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:16:26 +1300 Quote (Not3in1 @ Feb. 16 2008,19:55)The search continues.The important thing is that you keep searching.

]]> 503b7d622b2a4fdac64b25ccf92909a5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/uncertainty/page/26/#post-81806 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:52:23 +1300 Quote (Not3in1 @ Feb. 16 2008,19:38)The OT and the NT just do not mesh so much of the time.  It's hard to make heads or tails of it sometimes.  I feel like I'm going down rabbit trails so much of the time.Have you spoken to your pastor or an elder in your church? Sometimes talking to someone else well versed in the Bible can throw a whole new l…[Read more]

]]> b710818ae03040f11c7c057c03f958af http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/69/#post-81803 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:38:38 +1300 Quote (Heavens @ Feb. 16 2008,19:33)Quote (Stu @ Feb. 16 2008,19:29)I agree with you.  It is groundhog day here.  I don't think it is your fault.  ….  Since this thread is about evolution, would you care to have a go at the challenge to explain the theory of evolution by natural selection without referring to wikipedia?   Most people here eith…[Read more]

]]> 5edb1d386f90930b04fb670e8efbd1f3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/69/#post-81801 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:33:11 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 16 2008,19:29)I agree with you.  It is groundhog day here.  I don't think it is your fault.  ….  Since this thread is about evolution, would you care to have a go at the challenge to explain the theory of evolution by natural selection without referring to wikipedia?   Most people here either can't or won't.No thanks, got bett…[Read more]

]]> 4bf4a6a75f852674d215a7761f5aed33 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/69/#post-81797 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:29:06 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 16 2008,19:23)Hi Heavens.  I think it could well be worth your while reading a bit about the crackpot cult of the christian scientists before you suggest this to anyone.  They are not scientists, and I doubt you would call them christian. I don't mean the church, Christian Scientists – I mean Scientists who are Christian.

]]> fdc9e8ceca97473cdb8a3d96fac3a557 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/69/#post-81794 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:20:33 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2008,19:02)Your continual attempt at claiming wounded dignity when scripture is given to you is so boring. You drag your wounded self across the stage then spring back to attack faith in our God. The audience would like something more positive from you if you can think of it.Actually, no. This member of the audience is…[Read more]

]]> eb3bd0dbe914711ae027ea3380e696b9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/69/#post-81792 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:15:31 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 16 2008,18:58)I don't know that god does not exist.  I admit that freely and in the full knowledge that I cannot prove or even show it with much conviction.  However, you know there is a god.  And that's the problem, isn't it?Others have what you want.Not that you'd admit that.

]]> 57e6003743ca62c63970fa82044edde3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/69/#post-81791 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:09:27 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2008,18:57)How can you ever claim to be a scientist?Are you a scientist, Stu?If this is so, why don't you put all your questions to a colleague….a Christian scientist, of course.I'm sure you would find it more interesting, discussing faith with someone on the same level as yourself. Besides, you would discover how a…[Read more]

]]> b8faa4a23a981e097cbfb5871b1183c7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/where-do-i-go-from-here/page/2/#post-81785 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:46:31 +1300 Quote (t8 @ Feb. 16 2008,17:40)You don't have to go to Church, if you are born of the Spirit because you are the church or part of the church, the body of Christ.If you come to a place that has no believers, then make some. Meeting together can be anywhere. In a house, a park.Great advice t8!CPe, a friend of mine is an actor and because he often…[Read more]

]]> 5de6d5cdc41aaae4be48793214d2a234 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/68/#post-81776 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:06:34 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 16 2008,17:37)Anyway the question is not about your faith, it is about mine.  I thought atheists didn't had faith?

]]> d26f8136d1ba4a8215eea111919b6b74 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/68/#post-81770 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:55:14 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 16 2008,17:37)I am not angry with christians; I have sympathy for the deluded and ignorant among them (are there any that aren't to some degree?). My proof that no matter what I, or probably any other Christian says, it will not be taken seriously because we're all deluded and you're not.Keep taking your meds.

]]> 8edfde9c4f84b45057cee743d99c9306 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/67/#post-81765 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:43:13 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 16 2008,15:31)  I am very interested in what happens in that case.  I think there could be several reasons why an atheist would convert. For those interested, read Stu's reasons in his original postOf course, I should have known, an atheist couldn't just choose to become a Christian because he discovers the truth for h…[Read more]

]]> 996866ab8c39a69e9a9058d7342f2527 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/67/#post-81753 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:14:29 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 16 2008,15:31)Can you think of an example that absolutely requires faith?As a Christian there are many things I choose to do on trust and faith in God.I also choose to not to give you examples, even though I know this will bring a tirade of scorn upon me. You see, it doesn't matter what I tell you it will be viewed through a…[Read more]

]]> 97682131956b9a41205d3c3d178d710d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/where-do-i-go-from-here/#post-81736 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:24:52 +1300 Quote (CPe @ Feb. 16 2008,10:30)Now that I am convinced that the bible do not teach the concept of the trinity, where do I go from here? Which church should I attend?Personally, I'd be a church of one for a while, study my Bible and drawer close to God before deciding.I attended the services of several different faiths before I settled on the…[Read more]

]]> 5c9737e14d5b5118931383a3035fcbb9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jehovahs-witnesses-atre-they-christian/page/5/#post-81733 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:13:52 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 15 2008,20:39)JWs are god-heads with no compassion for their fellow humans. I base this prejudice entirely on the numbers of them that die for want a simple, safe blood transfusion.What pig-headed brutality.If only JWs would let me be.  They all too often darken my door with their dark-age literature.  Deary, me. JW's, M…[Read more]

]]> 64ab3b0adabcc5526145ee90a1707a07 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/67/#post-81731 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 03:37:56 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 14 2008,17:15)….and you have not accounted for former fundamentalist christians of long-standing who become atheist.  Do they forget the presence of god?Can you explain life-time atheists who choose to become Christian? Do they ultimately discover there is a God?

]]> f5cc4dfcb80f80c2aa1b6687729863b6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/67/#post-81707 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:40:46 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 16 2008,06:19)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 16 2008,04:29)Hi Stu, So what you cannot see cannot exist. I see.No, what I cannot 'see' I cannot know about.  That is true for you too.I cannot see air, but I know about it. I cannot see gas, but I know about it. I cannot see smells, but I know about them. Sometimes you simply have to…[Read more]

]]> f64610a8ecc905316402eb768446eef5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/sesame-street-cosmology/page/3/#post-81704 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:32:49 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 16 2008,06:22)But given the chance you would insist others follow it.  Why did it take until 1986 for New Zealand to stop criminalising gay people?  …. To not take responsibility is to be dishonest.As a Christian I don't `insist' anyone does anything. I will tell them what I believe, show them what the Bible says on the m…[Read more]

]]> 368bc1698a8bb9195b3d9a0d9130dfc5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/charles-darwin/page/7/#post-81700 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:13:04 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 15 2008,17:38)Of course that did not stop the Exclusive Bretheren trying to buy the last New Zealand general election.Oh, p-l-e-a-s-e! The Exclusive Brethren did not try to buy the last election. They spent a lot of money trying to pesuade us not to vote for a particular political party.When MMP was mooted a Mr Shirtcliffe, a…[Read more]

]]> 28abd7b0192c82ccb1bfdcf3d0a5d5e1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/charles-darwin/page/7/#post-81697 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:45:05 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 15 2008,17:25)Please explain to me what you mean by 'the atheist religion'.  Like I said in a previous post, I was once an atheist and therefore witnessed first hand, how atheists tend to be like the Christians they so often derided.They rant and rave about `their way being right'.The danger is that one can start to make…[Read more]

]]> d180c7cc83af49b731946de3718d6580 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/charles-darwin/page/7/#post-81673 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:27:57 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 15 2008,17:25)There are many lies and strawmen and misunderstandings posted here concerning science.  I think ignorance should be no excuse for fundamentalists spreading lies about science.  As I am sure there are many lies spread about Christianity in the various media. It's something one tends to end up rolling their eyes a…[Read more]

]]> 531555c8e23cbd0b5c73c75c18677ea5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/charles-darwin/page/6/#post-81671 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:15:19 +1300 Quote (Stu @ Feb. 15 2008,17:25)You should not fear asking me directly!   My apologies, Stu…I was responding to another's message and speaking aloud to him really. Don't worry, I'd never be frightened to respond to you directly. You don't scare me!

]]> fa940adb1782c536ea8e98d86b2c950a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-in-aliens/#post-81691 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:13:45 +1300 Quote (acertainchap @ July 31 2007,01:19)Lol. I had to make up this topic. I just want to know if any of you believe in aliens. Could these “aliens” be demons in disguise?Is there Biblical proof of this matter that you would like to share with us? Would you like to share an abduction story with heaven.net.nz? Tell us about it? Have you ever seen…[Read more]

]]> 888f7c557ddb04fcbbebbacce21ed83c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/positive-outlook/page/5/#post-81499 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:49:10 +1300 Quote (Cato @ Feb. 03 2008,16:01)Everyone is always quick to look to the devil when they should look to themselves.This reminded me of something someone sent to me: I asked God to take away my habit. God said “No. It is not for Me to take away, but for you to give it up”. I asked God to make the handicapped child whole. God said “No. His spirit is…[Read more]

]]> d80c1f9bf11c4cad995ccf8ee6045f83 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/struggling-with-lust/page/2/#post-81495 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:35:27 +1300 I have known many people who have done online courses with SCF and been successful at maintaining their goal, once the course has finished.There are several online courses, for many `addictions'. It's worth a look.

]]> 552cf6451d6aea5fe1718403c304c5b7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/charles-darwin/page/5/#post-81465 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:09:57 +1300 Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 15 2008,05:36)Hi t8, Misery loves companyI was once like Stu….in the sense that I didn't believe, but I'm at a loss as why he spends so much time preaching his theories at a believer's forum?Why isn't Stu enjoying the company of others who have the same ideals? That's what I did, when I didn't believe. Mind you, the…[Read more]

]]> 70f7235b6c5a819d39cab2114f9ba241 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/gratitude-forum/page/2/#post-81431 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:21:57 +1300 Quote (seek and you will find @ Feb. 14 2008,21:08)I am grateful for all the little things.And it's all the little things that make every day special. Sometimes people forget that, eh?God bless!

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