https://heavennet.net/members/Cubes/activity/ Activity feed for Cubes. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 1167781f900090940943c62dd1ca2f76 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-is-118s-proof-text-1/page/10/#post-51759 Wed, 09 May 2007 01:04:45 +1200 And from this website, a Jewish interpretation of Ps 22:http://www.kosherjudaism.com/tehillim22humor.htmlMuch as I disagree w/ the denial that this is a fulfillment of prophecy concerning Christ, their interpretation helps me to even appreciate the Lord Jesus so much more. When he could have “cussed and died” he rather exhorted, encouraged the…[Read more]

]]> a8f519bca03547cbe6924dab9f4be30f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-is-118s-proof-text-1/page/10/#post-51757 Wed, 09 May 2007 00:55:14 +1200 So hopefully, WJ, we'll explore what the New Testament (2nd Covenant) means by Ps 33:6-7, if that does not mean the Christ or the means by which GOD made the worlds.I am not willing to construct such a case without the 1st Covenant, though… because we need to be able to see their references.So far, it's led to my realizing that there are two…[Read more]

]]> f03a05bedae7401875b339d8d0b1ce7c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-is-118s-proof-text-1/page/9/#post-51756 Wed, 09 May 2007 00:39:27 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,15:23)Cubes, I believe you are sincere. I dont believe you are 100% sure of your belief.I think you may have trouble sleeping at night.I hope not, and I hope you do not lean further left to being Unitarian.For you will need to buy a lot of white out for the many scriptures that will have to be tossed or…[Read more]

]]> 78aff0c22f44a8229c40e78e28e32552 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-is-118s-proof-text-1/page/9/#post-51721 Tue, 08 May 2007 20:43:10 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,11:58)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 09 2007,06:50)Quote (Cubes @ May 09 2007,06:30)Thank you, t8.Hi All,I'd like us to consider something that AP brought up regarding the LXX manuscript (Greek OT) which I was not aware of.  Apparently, there is a Hebrew manuscript that reads Psalm 102 differently, from the…[Read more]

]]> 9bf6d96c698266841a7692474627e62f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-is-118s-proof-text-1/page/9/#post-51717 Tue, 08 May 2007 19:08:54 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 07 2007,20:56)Quote Thanks WJ & CB,I first considered Heb 1:10-13 as applying to Jesus sometime in 2005 I think, when Is presented it to me…I read Ps 102 and the leap I could make was that 102:24b MUST be YHWH speaking reassuringly to his Son who in the same verse called on his GOD, saying, “O my God, Do not take me…[Read more]

]]> 907ef04d60d84a821ab24d1fd9434e88 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-is-118s-proof-text-1/page/9/#post-51711 Tue, 08 May 2007 18:30:52 +1200 Thank you, t8.Hi All,I'd like us to consider something that AP brought up regarding the LXX manuscript (Greek OT) which I was not aware of. Apparently, there is a Hebrew manuscript that reads Psalm 102 differently, from the LXX. It would appear that the KJV Hebrew 1:10f text is influenced by the LXX version of Psalm 102, leading to the…[Read more]

]]> bfa053aee5a0b1f17d0da745eb980939 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-is-118s-proof-text-1/page/8/#post-51524 Sun, 06 May 2007 15:46:20 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 06 2007,22:17)Quote (Cubes @ May 06 2007,04:37)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 03 2007,08:54)Quote (Cubes @ May 03 2007,02:06)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2007,16:46)Quote (Cubes @ May 01 2007,10:44)WJ, (from topic/thread: Inference page 13),You brought this up so I thought to address it here.Let me first say that I…[Read more]

]]> 926a5525a71ec1c22c20a688cd368243 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-is-118s-proof-text-1/page/7/#post-51453 Sat, 05 May 2007 21:20:35 +1200 According to Psalm 22, a prophetic messianic Psalm concerning Yeshua: the messiah is clearly NOT YHWHand YHWH is NOT the messiah. Why then do the rules change w/ Psalm 102?Psalm 22#Psa 22:1 PSALM 22 To the Chief Musician. Set to “The Deer of the Dawn.”# A Psalm of David. MY God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?Why are You so far from helping…[Read more]

]]> 5fc9a3715ce2aef5ea5bf640d8c1b1b8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-is-118s-proof-text-1/page/7/#post-51423 Sat, 05 May 2007 16:37:54 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 03 2007,08:54)Quote (Cubes @ May 03 2007,02:06)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2007,16:46)Quote (Cubes @ May 01 2007,10:44)WJ, (from topic/thread: Inference page 13),You brought this up so I thought to address it here.Let me first say that I am not entirely sure who the speaker is, however, on the assumption that it…[Read more]

]]> f8f23497cc174c72d9cd018aa418f613 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/precept-upon-precept-line-upon-line/page/2/#post-51229 Wed, 02 May 2007 14:16:09 +1200 WJ,Thx for your response. I hope to respond during the weekend.Be well.

]]> 24db4ffc0be196b7c3f4dc9dde6d2c7e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/precept-upon-precept-line-upon-line/page/2/#post-51228 Wed, 02 May 2007 14:14:44 +1200 Quote (david @ May 01 2007,19:05)Hi cubes.  I'm not completely certain what your plan was for this thread, but I imagine it's already fallen apart.  So I'm just going to post “whatever” as most I believe are probably doing.Hi Dave,Not a problem. Whatever works best for all.

]]> cab8321b4f5e88ef04208a3bc8ba9895 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-is-118s-proof-text-1/page/5/#post-51227 Wed, 02 May 2007 14:06:26 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2007,16:46)Quote (Cubes @ May 01 2007,10:44)WJ, (from topic/thread: Inference page 13),You brought this up so I thought to address it here.Let me first say that I am not entirely sure who the speaker is, however, on the assumption that it is the Father speaking to the son, I would say that Hebrews 1:10 can NOT mean…[Read more]

]]> 168a3b54f08e397d1c4f05e59907253c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/9/#post-51055 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:06:04 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2007,09:18)So did Yeshau create all things? You bet ya.Party 1 says I am going to build a house. So party 1 has party 2 the contractor build the house.Party 1 says I built a house. Party 1 did build a house “through” the contractor.But by your logic party 2 didnt build the house.So play with words if you want but…[Read more]

]]> 0b953976fa71b369f294420056a337ac http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-is-118s-proof-text-1/page/5/#post-51049 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 22:44:50 +1200 WJ, (from topic/thread: Inference page 13),You brought this up so I thought to address it here.Let me first say that I am not entirely sure who the speaker is, however, on the assumption that it is the Father speaking to the son, I would say that Hebrews 1:10 can NOT mean to equate Lord w/ YHWH , as this violates Psalm 102 itself and so one must…[Read more]

]]> fd20e6d21e6e8a6270eb0d5d8fc24025 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/precept-upon-precept-line-upon-line/#post-51025 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:03:48 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ May 01 2007,12:26)Quote (Cubes @ May 01 2007,06:13)I hope this thread would be in the format of an Instant Messaging dialogue, where a premise is made, and from then on, the dialogue is PRIMARILY done through scripture answering, interpreting, refuting, correcting or affirming the original premise.  The goal hopefully is…[Read more]

]]> 560375d012c22880d95412da93d5abf1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/9/#post-51000 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:24:06 +1200 WJ,I think it's time we focused on the first covenant to interpret the second covenant: I like that you brought in the Genesis verse regarding “let us create man in our image…” It's a good place to begin and work our way forward. Please see my new thread: precept upon precept, line upon line…which I hope to create to address some of your…

]]> 29738a854cad4855d810fffc1e20436d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/9/#post-50994 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:52:54 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 30 2007,23:24)Quote (Cubes @ April 29 2007,07:24)Jhn 1:3   All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.  Jhn 1:10   He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. Jhn 1:17   For the law was given by Moses, grace and truth came by Jesus Chr…[Read more]

]]> a51fae2354848e5637908905a6d874d0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/9/#post-50869 Sat, 28 Apr 2007 19:24:58 +1200 Jhn 1:3   All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.  Jhn 1:10   He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. Jhn 1:17   For the law was given by Moses, grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.  The laws and commandments would seem to have been the creation of Moses, ther…[Read more]

]]> 9be373c7aa9a2ac29a330579f9e7be36 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/christian-self-defense/page/2/#post-50815 Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:39:01 +1200 Hi Not3,Here are links to related threads you might find of interest, in case you haven't yet seen them:For what it's worth, I believe that we are to pursue peace at every opportunity. However, there's a time for everything under the sun: a time to embrace, and a time to keep from embracing, if you know what I…[Read more]

]]> 334e1fc0403fe7e6e2e4eca91bd9ce11 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/8/#post-50707 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:21:04 +1200 WJ,As I said, we disagree.May GOD open your understanding to behold his magnificent and glorious presence and to know his beloved son as he would be known. I hope you have a Damascus experience. Amen.

]]> d4d28531a2951a4dad0ff42e2e04fb55 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/8/#post-50647 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:00:06 +1200 And this: Jhn 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jhn 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

]]> e8c4714a4dcee95d79356d749a45a1fa http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/7/#post-50646 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:54:24 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 26 2007,17:09)Quote (Cubes @ April 26 2007,09:50)Quote (Tim2 @ April 26 2007,14:01)The Rock, cubes?  You mean YHWH?  Isaiah 44:8.  You mean Jesus?  1 Corinthians 10:4.Hi Tim2,I do not deny Christ but rather exalt him as Christ, the son of God.  No man comes to the Father but by him.How about the Trinity?It is inde…[Read more]

]]> 9e397aa444b5fca06a43c1c49ed3339b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/7/#post-50585 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:58:07 +1200 Quote (Tim2 @ April 26 2007,15:43)Hi Cubes,And you misquote Scripture.  It doesn't say that only the Father is the Most High God.  It says that the Father is the only true God.  The ecumenical creeds affirm this.  They also affirm that the Son is the same true God.  1 John 5:20.  And the Spirit is the same true God.  Acts 5:4.  2 Corinth…[Read more]

]]> 75c541cf4ed8de5682b5f71d1c018022 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/7/#post-50578 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:41:18 +1200 Quote (Tim2 @ April 26 2007,15:43)Hi Cubes,I admit that you believe there are two Rocks, in spite of YHWH's declaration that He is the only Rock.  Isaiah 44:8.No, I understand the basic workings of genealogy by the word of GOD and by the evidence of the creation.e.g. The Father of Lights is GOD our Father.Christ is the Light of the world.We in…[Read more]

]]> 960b839bd8e08885de14492bfffcebb1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/7/#post-50562 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:50:27 +1200 Quote (Tim2 @ April 26 2007,14:01)The Rock, cubes?  You mean YHWH?  Isaiah 44:8.  You mean Jesus?  1 Corinthians 10:4.Hi Tim2,I do not deny Christ but rather exalt him as Christ, the son of God. No man comes to the Father but by him.How about the Trinity?It is indecisive: cannot decide whether the Father is a son, nursed at a woman's bre…[Read more]

]]> e89f50341a148a8a9d828a613ca654f0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/7/#post-50550 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:57:03 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2007,12:01)Hi W, There is no “God the Son” in scripture. So that comes from the spirit of tradition not the Spirit of God.2Cor 5'19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. ' So Since no trinity…[Read more]

]]> 0e8242e4aa3440fd5f95b1febd1430ec http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/7/#post-50529 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:02:00 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 26 2007,11:42)Quote (Cubes @ April 26 2007,05:51)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 25 2007,14:47)Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 25 2007,07:49)Hi Cubes,That's an interesting take on it. But I disagree. Adam I, the person, does not indwell us at all, there is not one verse that would suggest this. Also bear in mind that they…[Read more]

]]> c73b2e0c2eaaad07f0adcdc0d18f0e56 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/6/#post-50523 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 17:51:19 +1200 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 25 2007,14:47)Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 25 2007,07:49)Hi Cubes,That's an interesting take on it. But I disagree. Adam I, the person, does not indwell us at all, there is not one verse that would suggest this. Also bear in mind that they (The Father and Yeshua) will 'come to us' before they make their “abode”…[Read more]

]]> 47230658a64d6cadfc47397349250602 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/6/#post-50522 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:48:23 +1200 Hi Again, Is.Section II.Yes, the Father does abide with those who do his will.  As pertaining to the pronoun WE and OUR, Jesus said:Jhn 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him. He also said of his relationship with…[Read more]

]]> 64de4f343da362f07190a67cbe45d64a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/6/#post-50521 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:44:27 +1200 Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 25 2007,12:49)Hi Cubes,That's an interesting take on it. But I disagree. Adam I, the person, does not indwell us at all, there is not one verse that would suggest this. Also bear in mind that they (The Father and Yeshua) will 'come to us' before they make their “abode” (residence) with us. This is quite an explicit…[Read more]

]]> 25dc7f0975b61212bf8331b328b8e0f8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/6/#post-50363 Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:05:51 +1200 Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 24 2007,21:37)Quote (Cubes @ April 24 2007,12:22)It bears repeating, and to have scripture interpret scripture:Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHWH our GOD one YHWH: Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who above all, and through all, and in you all.  By these scriptures we see that YHWH is One, GOD and Father of all.  We already k…[Read more]

]]> 2035c6da32be8918ca0bd263d093df06 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/6/#post-50362 Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:36:13 +1200 Quote (t8 @ April 24 2007,17:36)Amen Cubes.Good stuff. Your wisdom is appreciated.Hope all is good. Thanks, t8. Just God's faithfulness in telling us what to say when needed, as written.And yes, all is well as I trust w/ you guys too.

]]> 01dcdba533fa498ce2f41981ec57d027 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/5/#post-50294 Tue, 24 Apr 2007 00:22:36 +1200 It bears repeating, and to have scripture interpret scripture:Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHWH our GOD one YHWH: Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who above all, and through all, and in you all.  By these scriptures we see that YHWH is One, GOD and Father of all.  We already know that it is written, he is the God and Father of Jesus too.  No inferences.

]]> 41aba2af607c52efd8182d38e3a23807 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/5/#post-50293 Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:56:02 +1200 Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 23 2007,22:35)What I need was specified in my last post to you, i.e. a statement in the Bible that explicitly shows that YHWH is one person. I still haven't been given that.Hi Is,One GOD and Father who is Spirit, yes… Not one “person.”Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who above all, and through all, and in you all.…[Read more]

]]> 2bb3d9771db0974611eee43d93b7227d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/5/#post-50292 Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:34:20 +1200 Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 23 2007,22:35)Hi Cubes, sorry time is short so I'll have to be brief and to the point.Quote (Cubes @ April 23 2007,06:53)Hi Is.,I am glad we agree. The question that awaits us is whether the Father IS YHWH.And also, as you said, where it is  explicitly stated that YHWH is an INDIVIDUAL personality or UNIpersonalIs the…[Read more]

]]> 4b498c6298693225815a4956e069ea7f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/5/#post-50132 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:53:06 +1200 Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 22 2007,22:04)Quote (Cubes @ April 22 2007,06:33)Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2007,22:12)Do you suppose it means that God is “one” individual ?Greetings Is, (From Pg 3)   Yes it does mean “one” individual as NH states.Quote Well that would be inference, wouldn't it? It wouldn't be when you have the facts to support the…[Read more]

]]> 1527125cc5447a5e94d866a3729123ec http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/4/#post-49994 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:48:22 +1200 Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 22 2007,00:03)Hey NH, where is it explicitly written that God is one person? Or are you happy to concede that it's inferred in scripture?Is,1Cr 1:3 Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. Mat 23:9 And call no your father upon the earth: for ONE is your Father, which is in heaven. Geneti…[Read more]

]]> 7d278b182000e8b50eef00c189bb006b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/4/#post-49993 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:33:04 +1200 Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2007,22:12)Do you suppose it means that God is “one” individual ?Greetings Is, (From Pg 3) Yes it does mean “one” individual as NH states.Quote Well that would be inference, wouldn't it? It wouldn't be when you have the facts to support the conclusion.  Only one individual makes a Father of any given person(s).I think…[Read more]

]]> 860541f315e4f2736b833e060860aa62 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/every-knee-shall-bow-and-confess-to-god/page/30/#post-44763 Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:15:51 +1300 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 09 2007,02:57)You say… Quote He is referring to scriptures like John 3:16, confirming that he is that Son whom God sent, the Messiah, and that if the woman would believe and ask, she shall receive the everlasting life promised by GOD (meaning that GOD is none other than the FATHER), to those who believe in his Son, W…[Read more]

]]> 72a6eb727a2af81c054867d4c9f27370 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/every-knee-shall-bow-and-confess-to-god/page/30/#post-44745 Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:57:32 +1300 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 09 2007,02:57)Jesus didn’t speak this just because the Father gives him authority. He speaks this because *he is the Life.* When you lead someone to Christ do you give them the Spirit?(You may lay hands on them, but it is Christ that gives them his Spirit!)Do they pray to you? How can someone pray to Jesus to come i…[Read more]

]]> 22691b508020b2aec83061cdedd32f13 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/every-knee-shall-bow-and-confess-to-god/page/30/#post-44739 Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:05:24 +1300 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 09 2007,02:57)Hello Cubes!You say… Quote I disagree, for instance, with your interpretation and conclusion of John 4: Don't forget, Jesus himself IS the gift of God, in as much as there are other gifts of God which come to us through him, when we believe that God sent his son to us.  Thus in a sense, Christ hi…[Read more]

]]> b95c3883f0448c85147458d25d99a3e7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/every-knee-shall-bow-and-confess-to-god/page/30/#post-44738 Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:28:57 +1300 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 09 2007,02:57)Jesus said to the Samaritan woman… Jn 4:10 If thou knewest the “gift of God”, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water. Jesus says  to any man… Jn 7:37 If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. Again Je…[Read more]

]]> 27a4cae158c8a761c9154f26bf3d818f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/every-knee-shall-bow-and-confess-to-god/page/29/#post-44737 Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:02:27 +1300 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 09 2007,02:57)Hello Cubes!You say… Quote I disagree, for instance, with your interpretation and conclusion of John 4: Don't forget, Jesus himself IS the gift of God, in as much as there are other gifts of God which come to us through him, when we believe that God sent his son to us.  Thus in a sense, Christ hi…[Read more]

]]> d8d4ee971d23b700a81a339640078583 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/every-knee-shall-bow-and-confess-to-god/page/29/#post-44729 Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:19:48 +1300 Quote (charity @ Mar. 07 2007,01:42)Hi cubes you are a blessingWe are all put here first as children and inheritors of the promise made to the fathers.To overcome and sit with him on his throneBeing that for us to be sent from God we shall join in the work of the kingdomWhich is….Isa 61:4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up t…[Read more]

]]> 90f8cdb6f8a6a2495c035461a8660251 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/every-knee-shall-bow-and-confess-to-god/page/21/#post-44190 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 01:51:59 +1300 Hi WJ,I've just seen your post but have not read it through yet. Anyhow, it would be a while before I can return to the rest of it. It is surprising that you would disagree with me as I've said nothing differently by saying Jesus is the first/primary gift. You cannot deny that one must FIRST believe in Jesus to enter into eternal life. It's…[Read more]

]]> fa51145be06707af0966942a6bfab350 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/every-knee-shall-bow-and-confess-to-god/page/17/#post-43908 Wed, 07 Mar 2007 00:21:57 +1300 Hi Charity, Thanks for your post. Hope to get back to you soon.

]]> d11adad2c116c6b27617d8cca960fa98 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/every-knee-shall-bow-and-confess-to-god/page/17/#post-43869 Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:37:29 +1300 Hi WJ, 1. Regarding the rest of your post, I want to respond briefly, the verse in Heb 1:10 to which you refer is difficult to understand even in the Psalms, but taking it at face value, I'd still have to qualify what is said there with the scriptures that credit the Father as creator. John and Paul say that the creation came about through…[Read more]

]]> cfd8c1269f36b8712ab22f686c53c04c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/every-knee-shall-bow-and-confess-to-god/page/17/#post-43867 Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:42:32 +1300 WJ (continued)!  Quote Paul explains it very well.Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God (Theos) dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, (Christos) he is none of his.10 And if Christ(Christos) be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of…[Read more]

]]> d9385d1a9518b52769913032e26e7768 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/every-knee-shall-bow-and-confess-to-god/page/17/#post-43865 Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:51:43 +1300 Hi WJ,In response to this aspect of your post, I share the following, based primarily on Romans 8, though not exclusively.You said: Quote We could get into a lot of doctrinal issues here with Baptism. But the focus of these verses I think is the Spirit Who or what is the Spirit? Lets look at some scriptures.Jn 4:7 There cometh a woman of Samaria…[Read more]

]]> 6f42286639c3f2becb9310ecf762b1a9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/every-knee-shall-bow-and-confess-to-god/page/17/#post-43784 Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:27:54 +1300 Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2007,02:50)CubesI will get to your post. As you can see that they are getting long.As they build I trust that we will do the best to keep them as short as poosible, which is difficult for me when I like to respond to every statement.But I would like to respond to the end of one post where you said…Quote *PS:…[Read more]

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