Heaven Net | Spock | Activity https://heavennet.net/members/Colter/activity/ Activity feed for Spock. Fri, 24 Apr 2026 06:36:29 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 a6f44ebc06950b044aeb02754103021c Spock replied to the topic All will be chipped by March 2013. in the forum Prophecy http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/all-will-be-chipped-by-march-2013/page/19/#post-787626 Thu, 25 Dec 2014 01:07:59 +1300 What a sick belief system wherein a Satan God conspires to trick and fool at every turn.

]]> 2090815fb323a7ee2433e2ec5f1e9512 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/228/#post-787621 Wed, 24 Dec 2014 23:06:54 +1300 Hearsay is a false legalistic construct created by the institutional church who also concocted the theory of scriptural inerrancy. Under such a stunting regime, any additional revelation will always be viewed as a threat to the old petrified worldview.

Jesus, who came down from heaven, was a miraculous person who lived a God revealing life,…[Read more]

]]> 25f097bb0b742671486818df147565c3 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/#post-787621 Wed, 24 Dec 2014 23:06:54 +1300 Hearsay is a false legalistic construct created by the institutional church who also concocted the theory of scriptural inerrancy. Under such a stunting regime, any additional revelation will always be viewed as a threat to the old petrified worldview.

Jesus, who came down from heaven, was a miraculous person who lived a God revealing life,…[Read more]

]]> 1d534dc407ffd5f6ad66a253c7eab60b Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/#post-787621 Wed, 24 Dec 2014 23:06:54 +1300 Hearsay is a false legalistic construct created by the institutional church who also concocted the theory of scriptural inerrancy. Under such a stunting regime, any additional revelation will always be viewed as a threat to the old petrified worldview.

Jesus, who came down from heaven, was a miraculous person who lived a God revealing life,…[Read more]

]]> b1becf62ee8e15fbde6857c52544f93b Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/#post-787621 Wed, 24 Dec 2014 23:06:54 +1300 Hearsay is a false legalistic construct created by the institutional church who also concocted the theory of scriptural inerrancy. Under such a stunting regime, any additional revelation will always be viewed as a threat to the old petrified worldview.

Jesus, who came down from heaven, was a miraculous person who lived a God revealing life,…[Read more]

]]> 0e48b6cd508e3a0c1167e248778316c7 Spock replied to the topic All will be chipped by March 2013. in the forum Prophecy http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/all-will-be-chipped-by-march-2013/page/18/#post-787595 Wed, 24 Dec 2014 13:44:44 +1300 So silly, such an insult the work of Jesus!

]]> baceb0915b83ac7ed8f7929d2aefa0e4 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/227/#post-787586 Wed, 24 Dec 2014 13:06:15 +1300 The 3 Magi came from where? They knew what? They were looking for whom?

]]> 483b5b34a70f610b3995af07ecd88862 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/227/#post-787571 Wed, 24 Dec 2014 11:30:34 +1300

You can believe what you want about the Bible, but the prophecies have and will happen and we will all be judged by God at the end of our lives whether we like it or not.

 

I agree with that, God knows what’s in my heart right now, I do not fear being judged by God in the way that you desire him to judge me. Many of the Bible books don’t cite…[Read more]

]]> 2ae15875fe2a8682748833a8c13444f1 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/227/#post-787564 Wed, 24 Dec 2014 10:43:19 +1300 Christianity itself drains many an ancient Pagan swamp in its formation, the atonement doctrine, blood drinking, flesh eating, rituals, saints, relics, incantations etc.

]]> 1ea6cff9ba28fa23ec606385bffbe9c2 Spock replied to the topic 666 in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/666-2/#post-787273 Fri, 19 Dec 2014 13:37:19 +1300 I believe that the “mark of the beast” that John saw in his vision was the process of salvaged souls progressing through the mansion worlds wherein the emotional mark of mans evolutionary, animal inheritance is being removed. In short, we continue to mature in spirit.

]]> ae4fcbb58f0c83383966069bf8edcaa4 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/227/#post-787272 Fri, 19 Dec 2014 13:17:46 +1300 When an emerging monotheism (the oneness of unified deity among diverse divine personalities) it is difficult for the plural elements of a triune deity to compete as a concept among so many legitimately false God concepts of the surrounding tribes. Hence the Lord God (I AM) becomes one even though he is plural in manifestation.

It was frankly…[Read more]

]]> 32bdd94eac22f9b2670164a2fe82be7d Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/227/#post-787185 Wed, 17 Dec 2014 12:22:17 +1300 * The Dead Sea scrolls were produced after the OT books were written or rewritten and redacted in Babylon. They just verify what was already written and became the scripture when the Israelites returned to Babylon.

 

* The Hebrew alphabet dates to about 900 BC, long after Moses would have lived. Moses could well have had writers writing in an…[Read more]

]]> c55200d473a98e4a1b26087433c94ad8 Spock replied to the topic Evolution in the forum Chatroom http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/evolution-2/page/3/#post-787129 Tue, 16 Dec 2014 12:31:45 +1300 Kerwin,

 

It is where you choose to put your faith that determines what you choose to believe.

I’m putting my faith in God, I take the writings of the people who killed Jesus with a grain of salt! Those who wrote about Jesus I hold in just a little higher regard. Those words purported to be the words of Jesus himself, I hold in the highest regard…[Read more]

]]> b0d912e57df98322cbc9457a77651c9b Spock replied to the topic Evolution in the forum Chatroom http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/evolution-2/page/3/#post-787129 Tue, 16 Dec 2014 12:31:45 +1300 Kerwin,

 

It is where you choose to put your faith that determines what you choose to believe.

I’m putting my faith in God, I take the writings of the people who killed Jesus with a grain of salt! Those who wrote about Jesus I hold in just a little higher regard. Those words purported to be the words of Jesus himself, I hold in the highest regard…[Read more]

]]> 7b402af23357c051363926993d560412 Spock replied to the topic Evolution in the forum Chatroom http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/evolution-2/page/3/#post-787129 Tue, 16 Dec 2014 12:31:45 +1300 Kerwin,

 

It is where you choose to put your faith that determines what you choose to believe.

I’m putting my faith in God, I take the writings of the people who killed Jesus with a grain of salt! Those who wrote about Jesus I hold in just a little higher regard. Those words purported to be the words of Jesus himself, I hold in the highest regard…[Read more]

]]> 5f6d059d750102dcf84e33c7bce6c0fe Spock replied to the topic Evolution in the forum Chatroom http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/evolution-2/page/3/#post-787128 Tue, 16 Dec 2014 12:21:35 +1300

Spock, I am taking ‘live long and prosper’ is not your tag line.

To deny the great flood didn’t happen is foolish, it is well documented through ancient cultures & archeology that a great flood of some kind did occur. The earth is organic of course there will be change.

 

Princess,

 

Science only speeds up the mortality of false Gods and the a…[Read more]

]]> a951d195a6730fa96f4e215bed9aac71 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/226/#post-787127 Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:59:38 +1300 To be sure the Bible has been changed many times, Babylon is where and when the OT books converted ordinary secular history into a miraculous fiction. And there were also many claims of Messiahs before and after Jesus. Some of the more central events in the life of Jesus are completely foreign  to Judaism and the OT scriptures.

But still, Jesus…[Read more]

]]> ec964a108ef4287af43ca8463c120cf8 Spock replied to the topic Evolution in the forum Chatroom http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/evolution-2/page/2/#post-787013 Sat, 13 Dec 2014 11:40:47 +1300

Spock,

There is evidence for rapid evolution.

Article about rapid evolution in a particular species.

In recent years, biologists have increasingly recognized that evolutionary change can occur rapidly when natural selection is strong

You should not scoff at those things you do not understand.

If you wish to discuss evolution rationally then I…

[Read more]

]]> 1399ea85d439732f0e026c7823134576 Spock replied to the topic Evolution in the forum Chatroom http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/evolution-2/page/2/#post-787013 Sat, 13 Dec 2014 11:40:47 +1300

Spock,

There is evidence for rapid evolution.

Article about rapid evolution in a particular species.

In recent years, biologists have increasingly recognized that evolutionary change can occur rapidly when natural selection is strong

You should not scoff at those things you do not understand.

If you wish to discuss evolution rationally then I…

[Read more]

]]> 99e7a7e439929850173f8b480578b6be Spock replied to the topic Evolution in the forum Chatroom http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/evolution-2/page/2/#post-786986 Fri, 12 Dec 2014 19:55:19 +1300

Did you say anything that is relevant to this thread?

 

Yes, they were discussing the 2 different, overlapping flood stories about Noah. My contribution was how believers in Noah’s absurd flood story must by default believe in a form of rapid re-evolution mutation or some such ridiculousness after all the animals and humans left the ark and…[Read more]

]]> 9e1cd382a7427e1b42f7096838834f0e Spock replied to the topic Evolution in the forum Chatroom http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/evolution-2/page/2/#post-786974 Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:46:13 +1300

We put our trust in scripture. Not all do that of course.

 

You put your trust in the writings of the Hebrew government who rejected and killed Jesus.

]]> ffb3756d53b1f1b330b308d7b0b72bcc Spock replied to the topic Evolution in the forum Chatroom http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/evolution-2/page/2/#post-786973 Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:44:02 +1300 Which evolution? The rapid regeneration of life after it got off of Noahs boat, an event that NO other people on earth trace their ancestry to except the Jews? Or ancient life found in the archeological record on this 4.8 billion year old planet that completely contradicts the God of the OT created in mans own image?

]]> ac00e3570c897ce3fde4e32de0016424 Spock replied to the topic Evolution in the forum Chatroom http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/evolution-2/page/2/#post-786972 Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:39:28 +1300 Then not only would we have a God with no foresight to begin with, he repeated the same mistake because man didn’t change at all! After God drown everyone on the earth who was not righteous (including infants and pregnant mothers) with the exception of 480 year old ancestor of the Jews, this only righteous man in the world ended up drunk and…[Read more]

]]> e04b0228b59d41ab221b63f90ebe09f1 Spock replied to the topic Evolution in the forum Chatroom http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/evolution-2/page/2/#post-786967 Fri, 12 Dec 2014 13:05:38 +1300 Noah’s flood story was an exaggerated adaptation of a smaller flood story on the part of the priestly Hebrew redactors in Babylon when they produced the OT books, using older books that they redacted and edited.  In attempting to trace their blood lines back to a much older Adam and Eve, the Hebrew priest gave up and decided to “drown the whole w…[Read more]

]]> e4e193e4660e4539c6dd872250d1dd32 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/225/#post-784551 Sun, 16 Nov 2014 12:14:14 +1300 We probably still disagree on when the Son became a personality reality, his function and office.   Some say he became the Word at birth, some say it was at his baptism and anointing, Christian Trinitarians would say he is an eternal part of the Trinity (the second person of deity).  I believe that he is a Son of the Trinity, Father and creator o…[Read more]

]]> 45f7ffb182d7e942cd951304c3cdea6e Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/224/#post-784466 Sun, 16 Nov 2014 00:53:30 +1300 Makes sense to me, the Father delegates creative powers and authority in his  Son who is the embodiment of the Father as the Word.  To see the Son is to see the Father.

]]> 864945e56541c24e3142bfd6ea8e571a Spock replied to the topic the truth in the forum Scriptural Teachings http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-truth-50/page/60/#post-784305 Fri, 14 Nov 2014 16:47:14 +1300 Christianity has broken apart into a million pieces, a sad illustration of one of it’s own slogans “a house divided against itself cannot stand”.

]]> 33cafe974263b3cc65c395c888bb6dbc Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/224/#post-784059 Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:42:00 +1300 Its simple and predictable, quote Jesus directly in one place concerning his identity, and the doubter needs to go quote some out of context characterization from a secondary source in another.

]]> 7efcc9aabcb884fec5d348d271ce920f Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/#post-784059 Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:42:00 +1300 Its simple and predictable, quote Jesus in one place concerning his identity and the doubter need to go quote some out of context characterization from a secondary source.

]]> a14b89b15f4dd663200f00ad0c6c450e Spock replied to the topic The kingdom of God according to Jesus. in the forum Scriptural Teachings http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-kingdom-of-god-according-to-jesus/page/2/#post-784056 Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:36:13 +1300 terraricca,

 

I’m born again, the spirit birth is a gift of grace and love. Even our faith is a gift from God.

even the devil can say that ;do you think he would be right ?

 

 

That’s a really nasty kind of thing to say, what is wrong with you? Who would want to be like you?

]]> 62fc6427b45b1901e4dae19b5c26a932 Spock replied to the topic The kingdom of God according to Jesus. in the forum Scriptural Teachings http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-kingdom-of-god-according-to-jesus/page/2/#post-784056 Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:36:13 +1300 terraricca,

 

That’s a really nasty kind of thing to say, what is wrong with you? Who would want to be like you?

]]> a28127b6db6b3ce0eb7d6950fe5dbfa9 Spock replied to the topic The kingdom of God according to Jesus. in the forum Scriptural Teachings http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-kingdom-of-god-according-to-jesus/#post-784041 Thu, 13 Nov 2014 12:47:35 +1300 I’m born again, the spirit birth is a gift of grace and love. Even our faith is a gift from God.

The kingdom is composed of those who by faith realize sonship with God. Its a spiritual fellowship of believers.

Jesus established the kingdom 2,000 years ago, but unfortunately his followers failed to live up to his teachings and the authoritarian…[Read more]

]]> 98a65d1fb2ac35004c79618a241de2ab Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/224/#post-784040 Thu, 13 Nov 2014 12:18:14 +1300 You Said “He”  the Word, who became Jesus, was with God in the beginning,  but the bible doesn’t say that the Son is NOT eternal with God. The Bible says he was with God in the beginning……but that’s a theoretical statement, there was no beginning of God or his Word.

You are saying God is eternal but his Word isn’t.

]]> f0f8cb41fdf9ca173218eabecc44c376 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/224/#post-784038 Thu, 13 Nov 2014 11:18:37 +1300

Jesus was with God as the Word. He was at his right-hand side even before there was a cosmos. He became flesh and then returned to the right-hand of the Majesty on High where he is now in the glory that he had with God. Eventually everyone will confess one way or another that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. That is his real…

[Read more]

]]> f5523c3ebbdd1615624e73acee07b663 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/224/#post-784012 Thu, 13 Nov 2014 01:19:15 +1300 T8,

Knowing that you have already interpreted supporting scripture for the pre-existence of Jesus as a personality reality to support your unbelief, I have a question. Before Jesus came Judaism had a concept of God as being one person with no God man sitting at his right hand. Is there only One personality in heaven now?

]]> 9b296b0963a65bcb85324911de4a06a4 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/#post-784012 Thu, 13 Nov 2014 01:19:15 +1300 Knowing that you have already interpreted supporting scripture for the pre-existence of Jesus as a personality reality to support your unbelief, I have a question. Before Jesus came Judaism had a concept of God as being one person with no God man sitting at his right hand. Is there only One personality in heaven now?

]]> d19facd88900d29882a67974119ef259 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/223/#post-783292 Wed, 12 Nov 2014 16:54:15 +1300

this is your miss conception of the scriptures ;like i told you ,read the scriptures and stop putting in your thoughts ,you may understand them better ,Col;1;15-21

Maybe if you allow Christ to teach you from his words you will come to realize who he is.

]]> 6f3ebb2d32110a8450774c1a8aa13d21 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/#post-783292 Wed, 12 Nov 2014 16:54:15 +1300

this is your miss conception of the scriptures ;like i told you ,read the scriptures and stop putting in your thoughts ,you may understand them better ,Col;1;15-21

Maybe if you allow Christ to teach you from his words you will come to realize who he is.

]]> a736b49f124ed69c873a603e9153652a Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/223/#post-783285 Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:41:49 +1300 terraricca,

I quoted Jesus directly, you have no answer.

]]> 86a05e24fe1b8e7f4aba0634c76a2203 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/223/#post-783278 Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:51:43 +1300 Well there you go, its only a matter of time before the arrogance comes out to explain that you are the only people that have “special  understanding” of the scripture.  Maybe it’s you who have the stubbornness of the carnal mind?

I quoted Jesus directly discussing his identity, you can disembowel his teachings to fit your own unbelief.

]]> aec2385e8cd707eb1e40c429865afb1a Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/223/#post-783272 Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:24:57 +1300 Tarrarica,  Your claim boils down to Jesus mislead people.

 

Jesus has always been in the Father, and the Father in him from eternity to eternity.

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and…[Read more]

]]> 6316c213f69f8c4e72ff41617cc9f017 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/#post-783272 Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:24:57 +1300 Tarrarica,  Your claim boils down to Jesus mislead people.

 

Jesus has always been in the Father, and the Father in him from eternity to eternity.

6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and…[Read more]

]]> f80f1c78ba13de76e572f6a1c00f4cf4 Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/223/#post-783269 Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:16:21 +1300 T8, Its in the scripture, its just that you pick the occasions that appear to support your assertions and ignore those that don’t. Its not just a fringe that sees what I see, billions of people read the same Bible you do and see the Son coming down from heaven, teaching and returning to heaven as Lord and God.

You suffer from what is known as…[Read more]

]]> f596b45da1bd76831569a2b14afecd00 Spock replied to the topic Joseph Smith had 40 wives in the forum Truth or Tradition http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/joseph-smith-had-40-wives/#post-783267 Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:03:28 +1300 Its like he spent a lot of time reading the Old Testament where David had an unknown number of wives, Solomon had like 1,000 wives and concubines. The self proclaimed religious leaders all have something in common.

]]> f81707c552106894788fc537ed51ccfa Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/223/#post-783167 Tue, 11 Nov 2014 20:39:20 +1300 Terricca, I’m not even sure what that means but God the Universal Father delegates power and creative authority in his Son who is our creator. It wasn’t really until Jesus returned to his place in heaven that believers started to think about the consequences of his teachings and the facts of his being.

]]> 1e7d15c1868e393dcb2fb45f07d60f71 Spock replied to the topic The saved? and born again? is it true? in the forum Scriptural Teachings http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-saved-and-born-again-is-it-true/page/2/#post-783162 Tue, 11 Nov 2014 20:05:36 +1300 Where did it all go so terribly wrong?!

]]> 00479a44a7c95006f4cbbdee177b014a Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/223/#post-783157 Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:45:14 +1300 The Son is both ancestral to, and eternal with, the Father. Your analytical explanation  demonstrates your limitations of understanding, not Gods limitation of creation.

Jesus, God the Son incarnate,  is both  the Father of this creation and the Son of the Universal Father of ALL creation and creators.

Man is actually a grandson.

]]> e18e8e066405b505d5ce4fb18a6bda8e Spock replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine http://heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-part2/page/221/#post-782908 Sun, 09 Nov 2014 01:20:13 +1300 The laughable inconsistency of those who deny the Son is eternal, was a personality reality who came down from heaven as the incarnate Jesus, these people have a temp God in a 30+ year old carpenter who lived in Nazareth as if that’s a perfect explanation.

The Father delegates power and authority in his Sons, he IS in his Sons.

]]> e91152f1051fe4f9d93fc2ac6c626701 Spock replied to the topic Why do we blame & change the scriptures? in the forum Scriptural Teachings http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-do-we-blame-change-the-scriptures/#post-782637 Wed, 05 Nov 2014 11:51:31 +1300 Then t8, if you were consistent then you would put this thread in the “skeptics area”.

]]> 8ef317313facc7981a43d0b797b96556 Spock replied to the topic Why do we blame & change the scriptures? in the forum Scriptural Teachings http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-do-we-blame-change-the-scriptures/#post-782551 Wed, 05 Nov 2014 02:25:03 +1300 This thread is not about other books, this is about the old books that were written by Hebrew government men and latter became sacred and eventually the Word of God. This same corrupt class of men rejected Jesus, theses same kind of men ruled the Catholic Church.

I don’t trust any book as “the Word of God” that says ridiculous, untrue things,…[Read more]

]]>