https://heavennet.net/members/Christofer/activity/ Activity feed for Christofer. Thu, 23 Apr 2026 15:08:38 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 e2415b01fe4db3913911e67373bcdba4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/is-jesus-god/page/10/#post-18922 Tue, 16 Aug 2005 09:24:52 +1200 Quote But many other verses also say that the LORD appeared, yet we know that the LORD appeared through an Angel.The word 'Lord' in English Old Testaments really bothers me, as it adds to the confusion that people have concerning the nature of the Father and the Son. For example – if Genesis 26 was properly translated – it would read as follows -…[Read more]

]]> 13a2bf51de85dde3666c45c0fc87dd9b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/understanding-how-were-made/#post-8255 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 10:20:53 +1200 That was a good post John – however – I disagree about how you broke up body – spirit and soul. The spirit…Genesis 6:3 And the LORD said, “My Spirit will not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh Ecclesiastes 12:7 and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.The SoulMatthew 10:28 Do not be…[Read more]

]]> 6b10d4f85eed1440c2d9a5417da6151c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/lucifer/#post-8248 Mon, 08 Aug 2005 02:19:55 +1200 True – but my point in sharing was to show that 'Lucifer' wasn't his name – but a mistranslation

]]> 537e35d7054ceda3c02c20574f8bd544 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/lucifer/#post-8245 Sun, 07 Aug 2005 11:54:34 +1200 Lucifer isn't really Satan's name. It was a a word Jerome (improperly) used in the Latin translation that became part of the KJV – and subsequently, part of Satan's many names. Isaiah 1412 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! (KJV)12 How you have fallen…[Read more]

]]> 79e3c1b4b4c26490917ea871a8c158fe http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worship/page/9/#post-7889 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:30:48 +1200 Quote You teach about God from your own insights instead of from the Word. You have told us you trust your own inspiration ahead of the Word. By denying scripture you have thrown away the measure and the check points for your inspiration.I believe you have misunderstood something here, my friend. First – I don't teach about God – I share what I…[Read more]

]]> 0a7f6fa7058538e770d06086ffeceea2 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worship/page/9/#post-7886 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:55:44 +1200 I am following Jesus when I say no man has seen the Father. I am using that teaching to see that Yahweh could NOT be the Father. I also know who was given authority over the heaven and the earth, thus making Him 'God'. I find it amazing you ignore the vision of Isaiah – simply because Isaiah wasn't taken 'to Heaven' to meet the Father. I am sure…[Read more]

]]> a7827fbcb293dd3bf58566d323cf3625 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/43/#post-7884 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:44:42 +1200 Quote U continue to be amazed at the fertile imaginations of some who will find “supportive scriptural evidence” for any theories they entertain about God.They find some possible inconsistency or disparity and use such induced doubts to try to bolster their doctrines such as God is “three in one” or “Jesus is Yahweh”.You have said Yahweh is the…[Read more]

]]> 46fd9f259129b684f09bc5c804267664 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/41/#post-7860 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:25:59 +1200 Quote And Yeshua is demonstrated in these scriptures not to be YHWH so I think you need to accept that at face value. If no man had seen the Father – yet Isaiah saw Yahweh – who is Yahweh -at face value? Yahweh can't be the Father without Jesus being made a liar – can He? This is something I have been studying – and the more I dig – the more it…[Read more]

]]> 00aa9060a2c218789d713fef8eee0f3c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/41/#post-7855 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 01:20:55 +1200 Where is YHWH applied to the Father?

]]> 10c2ada784c405980c0f3d03d2b7ccda http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worship/page/9/#post-7852 Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:25:43 +1200 Hi Nick Isaiah 6:1- Lord ='Adonay'… according to Strong's – meaning 1) my lord, lorda) of menb) of God2) Lord – title, spoken in place of Yahweh in Jewish display of reverenceIsaiah 6:3 – using the World English Bible – which uses the sacred name of Yahweh, identifies the 'Lord'6:3 One called to another, and said, “Holy, holy, holy, is Yahweh of…[Read more]

]]> 55e166bdd65b9fe68c57349140a95bbf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-the-holy-spirit/page/11/#post-10114 Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:13:51 +1200 Nick,Thanks for your concern – but you obviously missed the point of what I said – I am guided by the Holy Spirit. You are convinced of what you are convinced – I will just be happy that I know you love Jesus too.

]]> abe90e4a943c4d1ad3ff10c2814f55ba http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/worship/page/9/#post-7838 Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:56:00 +1200 The argument is baseless – because there is a serious lack of understanding when looking at the Father and the Son… Yahweh, YHWH or Jehovah was NOT the Father – The New Testament has this to say about the Father…John 1:18No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known.John 6:46No one has…[Read more]

]]> d3c30322bb594184fedd3ffbb3330138 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-the-holy-spirit/page/11/#post-10112 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:52:42 +1200 Actually – in the letters I doubt the authorship to, I can find many things that don't seem to line up with the truth Jesus professed… in fact – I can find contradictions between those letters and the older authentic letters… and that was what led me to research more about the books in question.I follow Jesus first – then the Apostles – so if…[Read more]

]]> ec48a5b728912c968766ce7720577198 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/swear-no-oath/#post-7807 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:44:46 +1200 Dear epistemaniac Well – here's the thing… why don't these commentators simply accept His words on the subject? Let me take one example cited above – I will look at them all more closely – but notice how things don't add up the way they say they do….“Some have understood Jesus’ prohibition of oaths to be universal, but Jesus Himself s…[Read more]

]]> d7495d3e3869fb53624fb545a11541bc http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/virgin-birth/page/2/#post-151371 Fri, 15 Jul 2005 00:12:43 +1200 Amen Nick – I especially agree with Enoch – but there is so much there historically about the various problems with the Bible that all Christians should review for themselves. But why would they review the information if they see others ask sincere questions about difficulties in scripture who are humiliated and insulted regardless of the topic?…[Read more]

]]> e49be2cad3156ae162705bafda3bcc8f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/virgin-birth/page/2/#post-151369 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:17:59 +1200 PS. John 539 You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me to have life.As it was – it still is –

]]> 323fe1d2e67963343ac2db55ec8aad66 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-the-holy-spirit/page/11/#post-10109 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:23:32 +1200 Nick – you seem to be fixated on this idea that if I do not believe all scripture I can't believe any of it… how ironic that you are now speaking like the Trinitarians – “if you don't agree with them – you don't believe in God” – right? And yes – it is certainly the same thing – because what you are doing is judging me on your view of the…[Read more]

]]> ecd7b25125c46d8d0976643733ebf8bf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/virgin-birth/page/2/#post-151368 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 05:17:51 +1200 oh Nick – It is as easy as understanding where and how things happened – and following the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Let me try to answer your points…These forums involve people who at least love and respect the Word of God and do not doubt it's veracity but come together to more deeply understand it by comparing verse with verse.How do you…[Read more]

]]> b91aff6cb2e55bff77ed24e1879c391a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/37/#post-7771 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 03:53:22 +1200 Nick – true – I botched up my paraphrase of His words about hearing the Father – sorry – but it still remains that no one had seen the Father – yet many saw – and heard Yahweh…Gen. 17:1 When Abram was ninety-nine years old, Yahweh appeared to Abram, and said to him, “I am God Almighty. Walk before me, and be blameless. 2 I will make my…[Read more]

]]> 83e590144306b65658d3ff0052f2661a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-the-holy-spirit/page/11/#post-10107 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:31:54 +1200 Certainly there is no indication in that verse that the Spirit thinks or acts independantly of God is there? NIck – that is exactly my point! The Spirit can ONLY speak what He hears! Doesn't this make Him sub-servant to God – or the Lord – depending on who is telling Him what to say?

]]> 713eb5f3361f516532b7e54b149b7c63 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/virgin-birth/page/2/#post-151366 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:22:14 +1200 Hi Nick – When did Jesus say – I will send the Holy Spirit to scribes who will write you what you need to know…In fact – the Holy Spirit is a living teacher available even today!I do not mean to say the Bible isn't the GREATEST book we have available about God – but I am saying that I feel the Holy Spirit has led me to the knowledge that the…[Read more]

]]> 556ec9b718ed7adb8b27b7b63bdc2275 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/5/#post-19771 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 01:15:35 +1200 hi Nick – I understand what you're saying – its just that I wish it could be said – more lovingly – I guess. After the last two thousand yrs. we have endured I would think we could agree to disagree – but find unity in the things we do agree upon – here's to hope!

]]> edf921f7cabcb43b534aa604d3eb8aca http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/virgin-birth/page/2/#post-151364 Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:06:35 +1200 well- first – before I comment on 2 Tim and 2 Peter – it should be noted that those two particular books were likely not written till after Peter and Paul were dead – sometime in the second century. Most Christians do not know that the scholars have doubted those two books (as well as 1 Timothy and Titus) for some time due to various reasons too…[Read more]

]]> 42550536d6a8735e9a12476bc42187c5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/im-thinking-about-joining-this-church/#post-19160 Wed, 13 Jul 2005 10:43:59 +1200 Actually – I think Landover Baptist is a long-standing satire site against Christianity. Forevidence of this – check out their merchandise page – Landover Baptist Merchandise

]]> aea1aad16c3da5bf70ccbe0378a869f4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/virgin-birth/page/2/#post-151362 Wed, 13 Jul 2005 02:49:23 +1200 This might seem off topic – but the Bible is written by men – inspired at best. I believe that Jesus didn't write a book – as the prophets did – because His Gospel is truly meant to be delivered in person – not writings. The Apostles were ordered to 'teach the Gospel to all nations' (Mt 28:19-20). The Bible is the best earthly resource we have on…[Read more]

]]> f787fe51bf9c1fc287425272895dcbdb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/5/#post-19769 Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:34:08 +1200 Hi E – I missed your extensive post earlier on this page – so here's a run down of answers – have you read everything that Nick has written Chris? no – not yet, but in time I hope to! don't let the fact that you agree with Nick on certain theological issues cause you to point out what you take to be my wrongs in this situation, without also…[Read more]

]]> 8bc84d77a472c2bc5ac884465d70d6e6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/37/#post-7748 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:58:53 +1200 “If no man has seen or heard from the Father – then who was it that professed Jesus to be the Son of God? “I mean at the time of Christ's Baptism – sorry

]]> 341b85f3d365e24e7297016671d5eda8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/37/#post-7747 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:57:52 +1200 Hi Cubes – Your points are valid – but I have to confess – I still disagree…I believe Jesus was given all authority over heaven and earth when Jesus created all things. If Jesus had all authority – how could the Father act as God (YHWH)?This leads me to another thought – If no man has seen or heard from the Father – then who was it that…[Read more]

]]> 23de612785ddf01e74111b60d46e2445 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/virgin-birth/page/2/#post-151358 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:46:12 +1200 Nick – It helps to hear compassion in your post – but the end result is that when I looked at the Bible – looked within – and went to Him in prayer – I found that there is layer after layer of problems created by men – like an onion and its skins. Peeling the skin away brings us closer to the core – but it is a tearful experience.

]]> ead2545a3eb468b5981284f76a2378c0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/nick-and-others-who-believe-what-this-site-says/page/2/#post-22261 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:41:52 +1200 Hi epistemaniac!Well – as I said – I am not judging them by stating a fact – at least I don't think I am – they claimed that Jesus would return but revised the date of the return several times – and even claimed that Jesus returned 'invisibly.' I don't begrudge their church – as we are all free to find God however we can, and I know several JW's…[Read more]

]]> dccff4c4e7e9ed286de70cbd2ec95d89 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-the-holy-spirit/page/10/#post-10100 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 23:32:49 +1200 I would like to ask how the Holy Spirit can be God in light of John 16…John 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. What ever the Holy Spirit may be – it ONLY speaks what it hears – it is not…[Read more]

]]> 42fcaa3368d3ed1ec05f96d501229f3a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/virgin-birth/#post-151354 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:22:02 +1200 Ask the Father – yes! But when He unfolds the answers – what do you do when you discover things that should not be – even within the Bible itself? Some would call this being deceived, but I call it listening to the Spirit of Truth – and ignoring the traditions of the men who claim to be Christian leaders. The road is narrow – we should never…[Read more]

]]> c95e2a70bdbb131c091b7bd50625a59c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/nick-and-others-who-believe-what-this-site-says/page/2/#post-22258 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:17:33 +1200 Dear WhiteMateria,Being someone who does believe in a like manner to Nick – from what I know of him – I have to say – the JW's started out as a cult that falsely prophesied the return of Christ – right?Why would anyone want a brother in Christ to join this congregation I don't know, but it's sad you would guide us into the hands of false prophets.…[Read more]

]]> d467e6df564e1b4519fd43f11307e357 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/i-john-57/page/5/#post-19762 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:06:59 +1200 Nick, E, and FYI – Man – you guys are hitting the wall that is built on theologies. There is so much grandstanding occurring that we are forgetting the most important things – we are to follow Him in all possible ways. I agree with Nick about most of everything I've read so far, and I can't understand why what he has written would anger anyone.…[Read more]

]]> 6340e2654c30417a422e56d82e276737 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/37/#post-7740 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:44:35 +1200 Diana – I posted without seeing your question – but I fully believe YHWH was Jesus and the Father was unknown to us – after all – Jesus did say no man had ever seen or heard the Father – if this is so – who else could be YHWH other than the one the Father gave all authority over the heaven and earth – – – only Jesus could be YHWH in this context.

]]> e5a56b2f87f0f21f9c442e2efac12e22 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-jesus/page/37/#post-7739 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:42:14 +1200 There is much truth and much confusion – but it seems obvious to me that no one here quite agrees about any of it. I know I sure don't – Just wanted you to know – Im praying for all of us.

]]> 05b718d3093f7f020a1de8681b1ea747 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-the-holy-spirit/page/10/#post-10096 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 23:41:52 +1200 So angels – or spirits sent to do His will would not be considered Holy? I understand God is Spirit – but was Gabriel not Holy? Michael? Uriel?

]]> 1cdce1e9e73c8e45f244a4a835b82726 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-yhwh/page/20/#post-7702 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:37:08 +1200 Hi Nick – I have been reading and enjoying your posts. The question is – if the Jews didn't hear the voice of God – who was speaking to them? And who did Jesus profess to be God – if not His Father? I can't see YHWH being the Father if no one (Abraham, Moses, Noah, etc) ever heard Him. Jesus already had all authority over heaven and earth – right?…[Read more]

]]> 477e8148319e744cb5e0ef9425ff95a4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/questions-about-the-holy-spirit/page/10/#post-10094 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:16:14 +1200 Call me crazy – but any 'spirit' sent from God would have to be the Holy Spirit – wouldn't it? I mean – angels are spirits as well – are they not Holy when performing His will? I understand that God is spirit – the Greatest of all spirits – but the way Yeshua describes the Holy Spirit kind of implies that it isn't God Himself…John 16:13But when…[Read more]

]]> f0d343fce311f2866a17ca2645ece06c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-yhwh/page/18/#post-7669 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:34:17 +1200 I have been looking at this issue for sometime – and I would like to point out it is entirely possible YHWH is Yeshua, and the Father was never part of the vision revealed to the Jews. Yeshua said no man had ever seen or heard the Father except the Son (John 5:37)- thus YHWH cannot be the Father – as YHWH was often heard from in the OT.If YHWH is…[Read more]

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