https://heavennet.net/members/Casiphus/activity/ Activity feed for Casiphus. Thu, 23 Apr 2026 15:08:38 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 21f52b4135f713f1c1aca7d304ca4c6e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-blessed-trinity/page/2/#post-63086 Sat, 04 Aug 2007 10:18:59 +1200 I don't understand.

]]> 4b16449e15301020048c10f4286ecbe1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/21/#post-62569 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:19:49 +1200 Hi Stu,Quote “ rocking horse people”, “newspaper taxis” and “marshmallow pies” were lyrical phrases written by John Lennon while high on LSD.   Revelation is much weirder even than this.Revelations isn't science but literature.  You can't approach it in the way you'd approach a mathematical problem (for instance).  To say that, Revelation read…[Read more]

]]> 2960bad0d613d36901a77213ca80cd63 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/21/#post-62566 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:31:45 +1200 Quote As you might be suggesting, the way the hunter-gatherer brain works makes it easy to end up putting the cart before the horse, constantly looking as we are for patterns, real or imagined, thinking there is a designer with a forward-looking purpose, or that evolution somhow has some kind of “goal”.  Looking backwards in time, we are the…[Read more]

]]> b30c636d5fa0e3b602ea80298d978c83 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/21/#post-62554 Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:27:54 +1200 Hi A4,I'm in sympathy with your position, but I think you need to research your facts.Quote things only evolve if they have tooyou obviously do not understand, I'm sorry but you can not de-evolve… you just simply evolve to survive in your environment… thats itThis is classic Darwinism, but it certainly isn't what current evolutionary theory…[Read more]

]]> 022d57bce15c97e1046d2fb5ba454a81 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/nimrods-trinity/page/4/#post-61928 Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:34:08 +1200 Hi A7,Quote Hi Kejonn, sure Jesus was not given to Molech, but the principle of human sacrifice is the same is it not. I dont care who the sacrifice goes to, you can't condemn something on the one hand then condone it on the other and still be considered fair and just.I think that the difference between these two examples is that Christ allowed…[Read more]

]]> 3d389daca95bd7dd621bb09c496c3e5f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-blessed-trinity/page/2/#post-61603 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:58:50 +1200 Hi Nick,Quote Hi Casi,The bible is not a world of mystery.Are you not yet born from above?I don't wish to offend you, but your statement shows that you haven't understood my post.The Bible* may represent a deep and abiding truth, but in and of itself it can never be truth – it is just words.  As St Paul says, we see only in part, a mere shadow.…[Read more]

]]> bfcfba4ac4fba08ad19234e89f91474d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-blessed-trinity/page/2/#post-61599 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:06:58 +1200 Hi Nick,Quote Hi Casiphus,Yes John did write that.Since then men have been claiming that their speculations form part of that unwritten truth.It does not wash.Perhaps this is a fair comment, but when you choose to interprete a word or a passage in one way, as opposed to another, you are speculating – regardless of how educated a guess you make.…[Read more]

]]> 467064e3dd3df1ee5d48e56dbf8f259e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-blessed-trinity/page/2/#post-61407 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:52:48 +1200 Hi Nick,Quote So you agree trinity is not taught by Jesus or the prophets or apostles?Not explicitly.  But when we write for an audience (as the prophets and apostles did), there is always going to be some assumed knowledge.The Hebrew writings are not entirely silent on themes such as the Son of God, and the Spirit of God.  But these are not e…[Read more]

]]> 76138cd9e21b6b1b11bfcb36fffd56d8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/biblical-proof-that-the-trinity-is-false/page/2/#post-61398 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:35:39 +1200 Hi BP and Is,If I can just butt in for a moment:I've really enjoyed reading both your posts here, and I think that you both make excellent points.But are not not being a bit too scientific?  Aren't the words just there to give a sense of the whole?One can't hope to understand The Road Not Taken by merely focussing in on:Quote Two roads diverged…[Read more]

]]> 059ebb7c1402c164cd4d9008f72ecb66 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-blessed-trinity/#post-61360 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:42:40 +1200 Hi Nick,Quote Indeed the trinity doctrine, which never appeared in any of the sacred writings, has continued to evolve ever since it appeared 200 years or so after Christ. Both facts argue against it having any origin in God at all.I think it is a bold assertion to say that this doctrine never appeared in any of the sacred writings.  It doesn't…[Read more]

]]> 97c74ffd621b2cde9857d94112ed9168 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-blessed-trinity/#post-61258 Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:21:03 +1200 I don't think that the fact the a doctrine changes and evolves should necessarily nullify it.  God may be perfect, but we are not, and neither are our understandings.King David was purported to have many wives and concubines, whereas St Paul supported having just one spouse (if any).St Paul lived in a world where there were slaves, and never…[Read more]

]]> 786f2321fe3d7d02ee74e1794bb4edc4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/nimrods-trinity/page/4/#post-60979 Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:32:53 +1200 Hi IM,Quote Were did you get your information, if I may ask?My undergraduate degree was in ancient history, so I was mostly drawing from memory – especially as the Ninus and Semiramis legend had fascinated me at the time.  This is a Greek legend, but (as with many Greek legends) it draws on bits and pieces of Assyrian and Babylonian myth.I have…[Read more]

]]> d2e0dcf8bb7c774697ffdb7e9b9b7f67 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/nimrods-trinity/page/3/#post-60868 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:49:30 +1200 Hi All,I just wanted to get back to the original article that Nick posted.I know it was posted to generate discussion, but I haven't really seen any serious discussion yet.  I wonder that no-one has pulled this article to pieces, because it is so amazingly full of errors and misunderstandings I find myself divided between frustration and outright…[Read more]

]]> 9fe877cfa20ef9c637fd9b59297ee453 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-t8s-proof-text-2/page/31/#post-60273 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:04:44 +1200 Hi Is,I'm not sure I understand the difficulty.If I have a son, it is only natural that my son would be human, because I am human.  If God has a Son, what else could he be but divine, because God is divine?But just as an only son becomes an inheritor of his father's possessions in many cultures here on Earth, wouldn't it stand to reason that…[Read more]

]]> 715557e0ca203fdffc5b1879c414544c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/trinity-t8s-proof-text-3/page/12/#post-60074 Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:45:00 +1200 Quote CompareJer 31:33  But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD(JEHOVAH) I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34  And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his b…[Read more]

]]> 942ede7acb5b6370ed14755d53341346 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/use-of-force-and-self-defense/#post-10607 Fri, 25 Nov 2005 03:49:02 +1300 Of course, you could also phrase it: because the verse doesn't mention rape and murder, does not mean it doesn't apply to those situations.In my experience if something truly applies to one area, it applies to many. Here is another example :Quote Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am…[Read more]

]]> 68f4543f5f6f7eba65f565af80bb2881 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/how-to-stop/#post-42450 Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:52:32 +1300 Hi MrBob,Quote There is nothing wrong with sex, but there is something wrong with lust.This is true, but if you dwell on sex, without immediate expectation – ie. a sexual partner – then the body has no recourse to release, and lust will generally ensue from the pent up pressure.

]]> 329267332fab73bcfeedccf06e391c9b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/how-to-stop/#post-42445 Wed, 09 Nov 2005 04:13:40 +1300 hi sorryman,i think the reason this is a problem for so many people is that they allow themselves to dwell on sex for so long… physiologically, this has a similar effect as the release of pheromones…people dress provocatively, movies are full of sex, and sex is used in advertising… you can't really escape it… but being exposed to…[Read more]

]]> 32febc30d512815af0dad40f43274c60 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/18/#post-9742 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 04:15:09 +1300 Hi Soxan,My last comment was relating to this question:Quote The question then would be; which Jesus? The Jesus of scripture or the Jesus of your own personel mind set, who ever you want Him to be?I don't see that the Jesus of the Bible, and the Jesus of a person's minset are mutually exclusive. Take the Trinity debate for instance. All those…[Read more]

]]> 2784b57f7ea162f0f88d26757e6b3676 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/18/#post-9739 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 04:06:55 +1300 Do they have to be mutually exclusive?

]]> de7705033c08ca53ca151b486a9fc12a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/18/#post-9732 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 03:56:38 +1300 Hi Nick,Quote So you relate to scripture in the same way as to pagan myths and legends? Do they all have equal validity to you then? If not what distinguishes the bible teachings and what use are they to you now or in the future?You have completely misunderstood what I wrote. My references weren't about the validity of Near East myths, but the…[Read more]

]]> 017874b22b2efadea938546bfda885c0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/18/#post-9724 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 02:42:59 +1300 Yep.

]]> db60a2c2c5d1ef8ee8db276fb6b23925 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/18/#post-9722 Fri, 21 Oct 2005 02:36:15 +1300 Hi Soxan – sorry I haven't answered your question, but hopefully my answer to Nick will help clarify to some extent why I don't agree with the majority of arguments in support of Biblical authority.Hi Nick,Quote These claims are not shallow historical narratives and opinion but deep and serious statements of the things of God. Do you believe…[Read more]

]]> abd54fabafb6905725c5ec27e669744c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/17/#post-9695 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 04:18:00 +1300 Oh Nick, how about you tell me what you think this passage is talking about, and then I can tell you whether I agree with what you're saying?

]]> 6f76211bc2fa61396c6ef6fdefb07c56 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/17/#post-9692 Thu, 20 Oct 2005 03:46:05 +1300 Hi Nick,Quote But you do not believe in the bible by faith?I'm not sure exactly what you're asking, so I'll rephrase your question in a couple of different ways, and hopefully one of these will be the one you're after:Do I believe the Bible?Sure – as a series of accounts or testimonies about God and Jesus. But as with all human accounts, I think…[Read more]

]]> 2d619e8cc199300cbc8c86fa46b503a3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/17/#post-9622 Wed, 19 Oct 2005 05:00:11 +1300 Oh Nick, don't you believe that faith is the evidence of things unseen. By faith, then, I believe I have the Spirit of God.But that is only enough for me – it won't convince anyone else.

]]> 27b257baab027e260ab5db10123ca648 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/17/#post-9617 Wed, 19 Oct 2005 04:19:46 +1300 Hi Nick,It means that I believe I have the Spirit of God to guide me.Again, knowing that I have a cat, doesn't make me positive that I know what the cat is thinking.

]]> d85d1598aa961942259cbd2f984277bf http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/17/#post-9609 Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:44:27 +1300 A vague opinion of what?

]]> 56541c6f0377bc1f89deebb45120c209 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/17/#post-9588 Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:41:32 +1300 I believe so. Does that make me perfect? I also have a cat named Sola, but that mere fact doesn't enable me to know the ways, heart and mind of Sola, nor am I always open to what she is trying to communicate. 😉

]]> ba383e8265276279be7050c17be183d0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/17/#post-9586 Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:28:40 +1300 Hi Nick,That's the eternal question isn't it? ;-)Do you mean “truth” in an absolutist sense? Not being God, I couldn't tell you. However, I think we both believe that Jesus came into the world to bear witness to the truth, and that everyone who is on the side of truth takes heed to his voice?

]]> cee4cf033cdab74f57bffc84e7342c09 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/16/#post-9565 Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:45:16 +1300 Hi Is 1:18,Quote Hi Casiphus, hope you are well.I wouldnt be too surprised that the Jews do not recognise their Messiah – both Jesus and Paul fortold they would be blinded:I am well, thanks – and you? ;-)I think most Jews see Messiah as a political leader, rather than a spiritual one – and a lot of them probably aren't as eagerly awaiting his…[Read more]

]]> bb0654923ef7adaa38453b2ce3560356 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/16/#post-9545 Mon, 17 Oct 2005 05:15:08 +1300 And yet this hasn't convinced generation upon generation of scholarly Jew.To you they are prophetic utterances concerning Jesus; to the Jew they either foretell the coming Messiah, or (as in the case of Reformed Jews) reflect an eternal spiritual battle between good and evil; to the Muslim they indeed foretell Jesus the Messiah, but to them the…[Read more]

]]> 7a6c62b1012204915108bd74aafcf7a3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/16/#post-9543 Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:15:53 +1300 Hi Nick,You read Isaiah and it seems to you to be the words of God, while the Qur'an lacks substance. But a Muslim reads Isaiah and sees a prophet whose words have been corrupted by the ideas of later scribes, and whose original message is transmitted far more powerfully through the Qur'an. Taste and value are individually defined, which is why…[Read more]

]]> 173f79c6815b2ae5408e52b9ecbe87da http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/16/#post-9541 Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:48:06 +1300 Hi Nick,Here are some claims by some Muslims about prophecy in the Qur'an.Fingerprinting:Quote “Their skins will bear witness against them as to what they have been doing” (41:21)Establishment of Israel:Quote And after him We said to the Children of Israel, 'Dwell Ye in the promised land; and when the time of the promise of the Latter Days come,…[Read more]

]]> f20a1a062521f42e05cb8e02ac8f8804 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/16/#post-9536 Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:22:39 +1300 Hi Nick, Quote One of the amazing things about the bible that shows the existence of God is that we pay any attention to the bible at all. Yet every word and comma yields truth and beauty and should be studied.I think I mentioned this before, but Muslims make exactly the same claim about the Qur'an. All religions have their sacred texts -…[Read more]

]]> efcbbf6e6b686ddadb13ef34c0fac4cc http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/15/#post-9533 Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:52:56 +1300 Hi Nick,Are you saying that Luke was a witness to the words and deeds of Jesus, or do you mean “witness” in a different sense?On this point, though, I think you'll find that the repetition is due to the fact that they both relied on the same written source (the so-named “Q”). Even the “gnostic” Gospel of Thomas uses many of these same sayings of…[Read more]

]]> da52adc36b5e8df6856665433bae9934 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/15/#post-9526 Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:11:58 +1300 Hi One Spirit,Quote It's called discernmentBut isn't it the Spirit of God that brings discernment? Did the Spirit of God tell you that I was my own final authority? Perhaps I should save you from answering that question. Quote So who decides if something in scripture “passes the test”? Who decides what “approaches” constitute “best…[Read more]

]]> c3f44c39f5789ede689cdab340542466 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/15/#post-9511 Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:31:48 +1300 Hi Nick,I don't think I said anything about popular choices? I think a best practice approach is quite the opposite of popular choice – popular choice implies an individualist outlook, and I find this contrary to uplifting and unifying objectives. Sure sub-cultures may seem united, but it is a unity of behaviour – a conformity – not a unity of…[Read more]

]]> 020f6cd643b81b44ea5e52d25feba6bd http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/15/#post-9509 Fri, 14 Oct 2005 05:05:13 +1300 Now, now guys – there's plenty enough of me for all of you to tear strips off 😉Quote What sources, outside of yourself, inform you as to what is true and what is false? (i.e. If I were to say to you, “Homosexuality is a perfectly healthy, even godly, alternative lifestyle!”, where would you turn to decide if my belief is true or false?)I don't…[Read more]

]]> c1dc07f696bed971bfd5ef37d53f24c9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/14/#post-9488 Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:27:21 +1300 Hi Nick,Quote No one is judging you but we all encourage each other to test all things and hold fast to what is good. Scripture is good and teachings that follow scripture are good.Well, if I had said, “Your faith does not rest in anyone, or anything, outside of yourself,” it would have been a judgement, however as I don't like to be portrayed as…[Read more]

]]> 03ea4c2ece292ff2324fe63196683bb3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/14/#post-9470 Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:22:34 +1300 Hi One Spirit and Nick,Quote A man who makes his own law is his own god. Your faith does not rest in anyone, or anything, outside of yourself. As long as that is your conscious decision, go for it. Just don't expect YHWH-fearing people to join you.Are you God, that you know my heart? Don't you interpret the Bible how you think best, and…[Read more]

]]> 2110ea850939c58bb8f2536ceebb46c8 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/13/#post-9458 Wed, 12 Oct 2005 11:39:19 +1300 Hi Nick,Quote Just wondering how you understand salvation. Turning from darkness towards the light (short answer).Hi David,Quote If I believe in God but not the Bible, I can do what I FEEL is right, and not what God says I should do. How convenient.It is convenient – and just as convenient to use the Bible to justify self-interested behaviour -…[Read more]

]]> deee28370878753f57cb7e57e8bb8ddb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/13/#post-9429 Tue, 11 Oct 2005 04:55:10 +1300 Oh Nick, are you trying to prove that we can't be saved unless we believe that the Bible is infallible?

]]> 35a775b3ce806bf422aad9ad494d4f0a http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/13/#post-9427 Tue, 11 Oct 2005 04:14:14 +1300 Hi Nick,In this passage, Peter preached Jesus to the Jews who were gathered in Jerusalem for the festival.I'm still not sure what you're getting at?

]]> 4d513d692337cca700b036a302f17823 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/12/#post-9425 Tue, 11 Oct 2005 04:06:22 +1300 Hi Nick,Can you spell it out for me?

]]> 8672d706e8e8c1829fc4c2b7046836b3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/12/#post-9422 Tue, 11 Oct 2005 03:55:09 +1300 I'm not sure I understand the relevance?

]]> 96feccd073b7008e7140cac1f764a429 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/12/#post-9405 Tue, 11 Oct 2005 02:22:14 +1300 Hi guys,So much water has passed under the bridge that I feel almost guilty to hearken back to the discussion of yesterday. Well, not really 😉Quote You have the floor. Your call.Hooray! Well, I guess I'd call faith – in the Biblical sense – a gut feeling, or an unexplained conviction. In this sense, I see faith as resting on what a person has…[Read more]

]]> 12186c15e433aaa3f1ebdc63ddf2d5b1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/11/#post-9374 Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:43:11 +1300 Hi Nick,When you say faith, do you mean a belief system, or “the evidence of things unseen”?

]]> 3acfaaccc304cc0902581687adaf8727 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/11/#post-9371 Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:48:34 +1300 Hi Nick,I hope you'll forgive me if I choose not to debate the infallibility of the Bible according to the argument that “the Spirit of God told me so.”

]]> 5d34898aded3e994e719e82e953d6623 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-and-new/page/11/#post-9369 Mon, 10 Oct 2005 01:08:01 +1300 Hi Nick,Do you ask this because I don't believe in the infallibility of the Bible?

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