https://heavennet.net/members/Bibliophile/activity/ Activity feed for Bibliophile. Thu, 23 Apr 2026 15:08:38 +1200 https://buddypress.org/?v= en-US 30 hourly 2 529e1cc7446ab21cfd5605c4c30c21c6 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-in-the-old-testament/page/2/#post-61887 Sat, 28 Jul 2007 03:19:16 +1200 Dear Artizan,Here are some of the prophecies fulfilled in Jesus Christ.   HOW THE MESSIAH FULFILLED BIBLE PROPHECYProphecy        Matters Foretold               Fulfillment Stated                    Prophecies in PsalmsPsalm 2:1, 2    Rulers act against anointed    Matthew 27:1, 2Psalm 2:7       Jehovah declares Jesus “Son”   Romans 1:4Psalm 16:10…[Read more]

]]> 5b2032aaecd20719578eba375094b33b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-in-the-old-testament/page/2/#post-61756 Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:52:15 +1200 Hi,Getting late but I will get back with you on this. Promise!

]]> 4788c0d7f8c0a74e8e35449172e2ced4 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/1-timothy-613-16/page/8/#post-61749 Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:55:28 +1200 Hi David,Yes, I have just stummbled onto this thread. I mentioned to Is 1:18 that after going home and researching this verse (because translations were contradicting themselves) I am moved to agree with him and you that this verse is speaking of Jesus, not Jehovah. I will be honest, I have never run across this before so much investigation from…[Read more]

]]> b921967005cb0e45ad04eecadaf3a875 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-in-the-old-testament/page/2/#post-61740 Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:23:40 +1200 Hi Arizona,Please tell me, how is it that Jesus fulfilled in every detail over 300 prophetic Hebrew scriptures?For example, is it possible for one to prophesy where he would be born, especially since there were 2 different Bethlehems?

]]> 739c13404d61d4d3381278c563040d4e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-in-the-old-testament/#post-61704 Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:37:11 +1200 Heh Is 1:18,After alot of research and studying today on 1Timothy 6:15, you may be right. I may have to retract my first post….maybe.I am still in the process of collecting scriptural eveidence so I will get back on this later.

]]> ce208603f25f8aec3360bbf5a5fb3263 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/do-you-believe-the-theory-of-evolution-to-be-true/page/7/#post-61606 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:46:28 +1200 Hi Stu,These scriptures do not indicate sinning on the part of YHWH. Is it a sin to rid those ruining the earth? This is righteousness on YHWH's behalf since he is without sin. YHWH has standards that are just. When man chooses to rebel against those righteous standards, whose fault is it? Man's. Perhaps you would be so kind to elaborate on your…[Read more]

]]> 4d2632e8655f3702fd794b4d37177b30 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/why-did-the-father-choose-that-time/#post-61604 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:00:26 +1200 Kernch,How about to fulfill his own prophecy in Daniel involving the 70 weeks of years? Daniel 9: 24-27 24 Seventy weeks are decreed about your people and your holy city—to bring the rebellion to an end, to put a stop to sin,to wipe away injustice, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most h…[Read more]

]]> aae9e7bef77a8f281ec8c5d1529fdd19 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-in-the-old-testament/#post-61602 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:42:35 +1200 Hi Is,Sorry, but I have to disagree with you on this one. The context is discussing God (YHWH). Although I am able to see where there might be confusion here. A lot of Translations indicate Christ as Potentate. Notice the following. 14that you keep the commandment without stain or reproach until the (AJ)appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15which…[Read more]

]]> 926b0c4d6f08c368bd4e28d766084dfb http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-adversary/#post-61598 Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:00:15 +1200 Hi ACC,Yes, we need to choose our battle's wisely. Remember though, we should always speak truth (2 Timothy 2:15 (Amplified Bible)15Study and be eager and do your utmost to present yourself to God approved (tested by trial), a workman who has no cause to be ashamed, correctly analyzing and accurately dividing the Word of Truth.Glad to help out! …[Read more]

]]> d70f1c446773da7dec9cacedac76ce72 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-adversary/#post-61470 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:48:16 +1200 Hi Chap,At Genesis 1:31 God says that “everything that he had made and look! very good.”Obviously, the angels were created before man but at this point in time God says everything is very good. God created all beings (spirit or human) with free will. This would have included Satan. However, Satan wasn't always Satan (this word means resister of…[Read more]

]]> e7f53ea78ddc5cf49d8134e0e0e9a377 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/apostacy/page/2/#post-61468 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 05:04:30 +1200 Michaels my friend,I am sorry for not being able to understand your thoughts completely. I will leave you in peace and blessings. In Christ

]]> dfadf31cb046a7d7bbc310747ed438df http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/apostacy/page/2/#post-61457 Wed, 25 Jul 2007 03:15:09 +1200 Michaels,I will try this conversation with you one more time. My being offended has nothing to do with Jesus. It has to do with your lack of tact when speaking. Yes, let's read Isaiah 9:6. This verse says that the Son is called everlasting Father. Do you believe Jesus is the Father? Please just answer this one question.Thanks

]]> 09d3d78f6fdbece29aac8c9d17512a44 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/biblical-proof-that-the-trinity-is-false/page/2/#post-61402 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:49:20 +1200 Hi Cas,Thanks for your thoughts. Obviously, I am only able to speak for myself, but I Believe Is would agree that yes, picking on words continually would be missing the point of scripture. I don't normally breakdown specific words but I do feel it is necessary sometimes in order for each other to truly understand where the other is coming from.…[Read more]

]]> b5826167bd084f55d1bb8b11e380754d http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/biblical-proof-that-the-trinity-is-false/page/2/#post-61397 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:35:03 +1200 Hi Is,I agree its late. look forward to other dicussions. Just so you realize, I don't believe Satan is truly god. He is a false god simply because he made or rather placed himself in that position. YHWH did not give him the authority to act as god. Satan took it upon himself.Till next time,In Christ

]]> 32aadae9f62b64075f98a1d07934a10e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/biblical-proof-that-the-trinity-is-false/page/2/#post-61387 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:05:45 +1200 Good question!All gods in existence that are uncreated and divine would be false. For example, man-made gods. What if Gog/YHWH designates one of his creations as god? Would this creation be a false god since YHWH gave him authority as god? For example, Satan is called 'god of this system' at 2Corinthians 4:4. Is Satan a false or true god? I…[Read more]

]]> 19e5d8a025bffc697272804d995bd96b http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jesus-in-the-old-testament/#post-61382 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:57:34 +1200 Heh Ken,Why isn'y the holy spirit ever called Lord of Host? Also, where inscripture is Jesus called sovereign?

]]> 964ce96d4fd8ff303ea40dffd8d4196f http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/biblical-proof-that-the-trinity-is-false/page/2/#post-61378 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:48:52 +1200 Hi Is,Yes, I completely agree. That is an excellent choice of words. I will have to use that sometime in the future.

]]> 1db69fa65b3880038505d93ff88a45d5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/biblical-proof-that-the-trinity-is-false/page/2/#post-61370 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:29:48 +1200 Hi Is,I too believe that there is only one (numerically speaking ) true living God. I also agree his name is YHWH no matter how one chooses to interpret it, Jehovah/Yahweh/Yehovah, etc… It is in this sense that I too am monotheistic. Obviously, we agree on this because this is what scripture tells us. The only true God YHWH is creator as you…[Read more]

]]> bb3cc0606c49c92d150019216d7b03d5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/biblical-proof-that-the-trinity-is-false/page/2/#post-61356 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:25:05 +1200 Hi Is,Wow! I am impressed with your depth of knowledge through study of God's word. Very commendable. I think you would concur that many today do not spend as much time searching the srciptures for truth. That is indeed disappointing and sad. Your thoughts and conclusions are well thought out and from what you presented i would have to almost…[Read more]

]]> 56cda138e9d3a45fdf0a58414b3e392c http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/biblical-proof-that-the-trinity-is-false/#post-61344 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:33:58 +1200 Hi Is,Absolutely not. I do however see it as needing clarification in English. I am also not truly sold on 'a god' as the best rendering, but it does clarify and distinguish. Personally, I would like the rendering 'and the Word was Godly or Godlike.” What do you think?

]]> ec6349b55fa0b2f5ffe5c4f689b52ade http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/apostacy/#post-61342 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:07:47 +1200 Dear Michaels,Jesus was speaking of the Father when saying I AM? Reread vs 57. The Jews asked Jesus not the Father “You(Jesus) are not yet fifty years old…” This is yours not he Bible's interpretation. Do you believe Jesus is also the Father? You would have to if you are going to keep with this interpretation.I am was an idiom in Jesus day. Are…[Read more]

]]> cc6f81d52c7fc0d956fa2ef5402863ca http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/biblical-proof-that-the-trinity-is-false/#post-61340 Tue, 24 Jul 2007 05:50:08 +1200 Hi Is,The definite article does not have to be used in Greek in order to clarify that a noun is definite, such as you mentioned in John 1:18. Coming from your perspective I would agree that John 1:18 without the article is definite, thus not grammatically different.:D However, my point was and still is that John uses the definite article in John…[Read more]

]]> 2a6573d5493e222e140cc342258752fd http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/apostacy/#post-61247 Mon, 23 Jul 2007 06:58:25 +1200 Hi Michaels,Jehovah is the English name of God. So is Jesus. Would you be willing to start refering to Jesus as Jehoshua, his Hebrew Name? Most would not because we are familiar with the English Name Jesus. The same is said of Jehovah. The truth is no one knows the exact proninciation. The 'I Am' in Exodus 3:14 describes God. Jehovah/YHWH in…[Read more]

]]> 29482794c8ddafb215c865635cafe731 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-law-of-agency/page/2/#post-61208 Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:21:43 +1200 Hey Nick, I was gone for the weekend.Where were we having that dicussion on Exodus 3:14, 15? I would like to continue it but I can't find it. Thanks.

]]> 1af441ade38dcffb38e12584e2cf97da http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-law-of-agency/page/2/#post-61207 Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:20:20 +1200 Hi,How about these scriptures. “they have…certainly come to know that I came out as your representative and they believe that you have sent me.” (John 17:18) Jesus is called the “Chief Agent.” (Acts 5:31) Also caompare John 7:29, 16:27; Acts 3:15; Hebrews 2:10.Obviously there is no scripture that explicitly says the law of agency. However, I do…[Read more]

]]> a73ff072ddf30901fc4d07c686738761 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/biblical-proof-that-the-trinity-is-false/#post-61199 Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:03:33 +1200 Hi Is 1:18,I was gone for the weekend. John 1:18 is grammatically different than John 1:1. There really is no comparison of the two.A verse that resembles John 1:1 is found in John 6:70. It Reads in the Greek: “..and of you one a devil is?” (NKJV Greek English Interlinear. They supply the word 'a') John 1:1 as you already know reads in Greek:…[Read more]

]]> 371ff1543697fa25aa54ee705d3b8831 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-word-and-the-flesh/page/20/#post-61187 Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:34:39 +1200 Michaels,Is God's name Yahshua or Jehovah/Yahweh? In Christ

]]> bfcd5f04ba90e856ed9030fc5a799985 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/biblical-proof-that-the-trinity-is-false/#post-60698 Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:17:36 +1200 Hi Is 1:18,The second theos distinguishes itself from the first Theos which is THE (definite article) God. Another way of saying this is that 'the word was with The Living True God and the word was also god.' Obviously this is paraphrased. The First Theos has the definite Greek article (the) to identify a specific individual. The second theos does…[Read more]

]]> 6aff4f6d22fbb9f85543d63070cd93b1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/apostacy/#post-60688 Thu, 19 Jul 2007 07:59:51 +1200 Hi Nick, You need to keep going to vs 15 which I quoted. I Am or I will be what I will be only shows God's exsistence. Vs 15 shows God's name to be Jehovah (English), along with over 6,000 other verses using his name such as Ps 83:18.Let's say you are correct about the addition of vowels to God's name. Respectfully, so what? YHWH was given vowels…[Read more]

]]> dbb017c65ca30bb48b2dfe6caf8865fa http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/apostacy/#post-60685 Thu, 19 Jul 2007 07:27:28 +1200 Perhaps this was covered in another thread but God's name is not I Am! The God of the Bible's name is Jehovah/Yahweh according to vs 15 of Exodus 3. “Jehovah, the God of your forefathers…this is my name to time indefinite, and this is the memorial of me to generation after generation.”

]]> d918ff2977c02b48e3d8be1fe2b66cb5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/the-blessed-trinity/#post-60627 Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:12:55 +1200 Hi WJ,I agree with nick on this one. Most of Christendom still hold on to and profess what t8 posted.

]]> 6716dd23b2ffbe5ffa7ce6055fb58589 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/proverbs-81-36/page/2/#post-60625 Thu, 19 Jul 2007 04:02:57 +1200 Hi CB,The Son is the God of the Father? Hebrews 1:8 was originally cited for King Solomon. Was Soloman the God of the Father too? Please read vs 9 also to clarify what is truth.

]]> a39a17042a8603c311facbed05211b71 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/biblical-proof-that-the-trinity-is-false/#post-60511 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:49:49 +1200 Hello Acertainchap,Just wanted make a little tweek in the Greek of John 1:1. The word was with THE GOD and the word was God. The definite article (THE) is crucial in this verse.

]]> 74fc2e7ab4f20a0044095dc618e98ede http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/are-there-angels-amongst-us/#post-60505 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:36:47 +1200 Hi P,The book of Revelation says: “And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting goodnews to declare…” (14:6) Midheaven literally means directly above.In Christ

]]> 109f14b9b41bbb882bb1e92b83d52455 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/11/#post-60473 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:33:41 +1200 Hi Nick,Thanks for your reply. You are absolutely correct that as Christ's followers we must rely on scritpure alone which, as you already quoted Jesus saying, cannot be broken. As one of JW's I teach only Scripture. Not sure what you mean by partly based on the Bible? Saying that something is implied in scripture is still believing and teaching…[Read more]

]]> ad4f996d7b545b344e56a77d9872beb5 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/old-testament/#post-60466 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:13:59 +1200 KJ,Great post! I agree wholeheartedly that the OT is still just as important as the NT. Paul says at Romans 15:4 “For all things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction…”2Timothy 3:16,17 “All scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in…[Read more]

]]> 5ad4c4734e7c421fcf03c7b27608fac3 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/inference/page/11/#post-60460 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 04:46:18 +1200 Hi Nick,I agree that “Inference is not truth by any standard.” Inference and implicity are not interchangeable words. According to the Webster's online dictionary:1-Inference is making a logical judgement on the basis of circumstantial and prior conclusions rather than on the basis of direct observation.2-Implicit is capable of being understood…[Read more]

]]> 1c59731228fd84d7f852d28c63aa6ca9 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-bible-versions-do-you-use/page/2/#post-60279 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:27:41 +1200 Dave,Thanks for the heads up. What brought you here is what brought me here. There is another web site you might enjoy called scripturaltruths. Do you know of it? Bibliophile

]]> 3671e17eaf4f14b9194732c93ec3fe34 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/who-is-the-father/page/11/#post-60278 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:22:58 +1200 I would like to add something to this Great topic!Identifying who the Father is of Jesus is critical to accurate Bible Understanding. At John 17:1-3 Jesus makes the statement: “Father…this is the real and eternal life: That they know you, The one and only true God, And Jesus Christ, whom you sent.” ™ Jesus Identifies his Father as “the one and…[Read more]

]]> 279d9f8b6428bdec53f8cc09625de0ed http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-about-john-11-in-the-nwt/page/28/#post-60270 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:45:06 +1200 Is 1:18,I better correct myself on this one. Sorry about that!! What I meant was I would remain Jehovah's servant through Jesus even if the organization departed from the Bible. In other words, If the organization left the doctrines of the Bible, I would remain with the Bible, which is infallible, not the organization. Does this clear things up I…[Read more]

]]> 2557d4db02a1ec1f40393b8e1332fa89 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/jehovah/#post-60269 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:39:51 +1200 Hi Kenrch,Thanks for the welcome.I would like to recommend a book which contains a couple of nice lists. One list contains renderings of John 1:1 (79) other than the traditional “and the word was God.” For this thread though, this book also cantains a list of English translations which contain God's name in the NT (Greek Scriptures) in some form.…[Read more]

]]> e070ba3cf5a14e60ed0bbdd8204169a7 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-bible-versions-do-you-use/page/2/#post-60266 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:29:58 +1200 Wow David, Lots of important info. Unfortunately, unless someone is genuinely interested in accurate knowledge they will continue to accuse with false motives. I of course use the NWT as my backbone to accurate translation, but I certainly enjoy others. I also prefer those that restore God's name Jehovah/Yahweh. I have recently aquired the Ancient…[Read more]

]]> 8dcf54bbe0b94d135af4837ea1c5578e http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-about-john-11-in-the-nwt/page/28/#post-60264 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:16:50 +1200 Hi Is 1:18,Why do you feel this way please?In Christ

]]> f9cec78b1211a2c8d893cdce18b35e54 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-about-john-11-in-the-nwt/page/28/#post-60224 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:34:04 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 17 2007,16:54)Hi Bib, To become a member of the JW organisation did you have to repent and be baptised in the name of Jesus and did you receive the Holy Spirit?***Yes. To be a follower of Christ according to scripture one must repent (turn around) as well as be baptized in the Name of the Father, Son, and holy spirit.…[Read more]

]]> 6c6bcc13d8ea6ff55d80a0aad37d96f0 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-about-john-11-in-the-nwt/page/28/#post-60219 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:48:41 +1200 Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 17 2007,14:40)Hi Bib, Is the JW denomination acceptable to God?Hi Nick,I will admit I had to think about this question. Unfortunately, the world has had to classify Christians as denominations simply because there are so many different ones. (20,000?) I am sure you would agree this wasn't the case in the first century.…[Read more]

]]> d6ab20c2d46471e457cb5985cac4feb1 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-about-john-11-in-the-nwt/page/28/#post-60216 Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:57:19 +1200 Hi Mandy,Excellent reply. Thank-you and all for welcoming me. Perhaps I came off a little strong. Please believe me that it was not meant to force anyone to JW's. I was truly sharing what I have come to learn through scripture. It saddens me that you came away with the impression that JW's believe that only they will be 'saved' as it were. The…[Read more]

]]> 210f5f250638dffbd3b96b70f7a97169 http://www.heavennet.net/forums/topic/what-about-john-11-in-the-nwt/page/28/#post-60078 Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:24:12 +1200 It is strangely interesting to me why anyone would adhere to the ever popular belief, albeit erroneous, that all Christians or denominations are acceptable to God. Jesus made the exact opposite point in Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord, will enter the Kingdom of the Heavens…Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, did…[Read more]

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