Jesus is flesh and bone.

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  • #381216
     NickHassan 
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    Hi WU,

    Jesus said his body was flesh and bone but you deny this?

    #381217
     NickHassan 
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    Hi WU,
    The entire point of Jesus showing his flesh and bone body you want to undermine saying it was only an appearance?

    Your argument is with the Lord

    #381218
     NickHassan 
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    Hi,
    But as with our resurrection Jesus would have had the new body put on when he was taken up.

    #381219
     NickHassan 
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    Hi,

    John 3:13-15

    13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

    14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

    15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

    #381257
     Wakeup 
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2014,15:01)
    Hi WU,

    Jesus said his body was flesh and bone but you deny this?


    Nick.

    Yep.

    wakeup.

    #381258
     NickHassan 
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    Hi WU,
    That fits

    #381345
     kerwin 
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    Quote (Wakeup @ May 08 2014,14:15)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2014,15:01)
    Hi WU,

    Jesus said his body was flesh and bone but you deny this?


    Nick.

    Yep.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    Jesus gave evidence he was not a spirit but you claim he was.

    #381346
     NickHassan 
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    Hi,
    .Luke 24:39
    See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.”

    #381383
     Wakeup 
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    Quote (kerwin @ May 09 2014,09:19)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 08 2014,14:15)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2014,15:01)
    Hi WU,

    Jesus said his body was flesh and bone but you deny this?


    Nick.

    Yep.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    Jesus gave evidence he was not a spirit but you claim he was.


    Kerwin.

    I know that Jesus appeared in the flesh.
    You must find out the reason why.
    Because in the resurrection we all have a new body.
    A scrard face person will not be resurrected with a scard face. Or would he?

    So why was Jesus resurrected with all his wounds?
    It is for you to find out why.

    wakeup.

    #381384
     NickHassan 
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    Hi WU,
    He did not APPEAR in the flesh
    He was flesh.

    Would you need to put your hand in his side too?

    #381386
     NickHassan 
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    Hi WU,
    We do not start from the point of view that he did things that a body cannot normally do, such as walking through walls.
    We believe him and we believe in miracles

    #381506
     kerwin 
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    Quote (Wakeup @ May 09 2014,06:21)

    Quote (kerwin @ May 09 2014,09:19)

    Quote (Wakeup @ May 08 2014,14:15)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2014,15:01)
    Hi WU,

    Jesus said his body was flesh and bone but you deny this?


    Nick.

    Yep.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    Jesus gave evidence he was not a spirit but you claim he was.


    Kerwin.

    I know that Jesus appeared in the flesh.
    You must find out the reason why.
    Because in the resurrection we all have a new body.
    A scrard face person will not be resurrected with a scard face. Or would he?

    So why was Jesus resurrected with all his wounds?
    It is for you to find out why.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    Men wear medals of the brave deeds they did and Jesus' scars are just marks of the righteous deed of Jesus that provided a way for each and every human being to be free.

    If Jesus wanted his scars healed they would have been.  

    #381507
     kerwin 
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    Wakeup,

    Have you explained to Nick why you believe that Thomas wanting to thrust his hand into Jesus' side does not mean that he would not believe Jesus was alive until he thrust his hand into Jesus' mortal wound?

    #381521
     Wakeup 
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    Quote (kerwin @ May 10 2014,05:53)
    Wakeup,

    Have you explained to Nick why you believe that Thomas wanting to thrust his hand into Jesus' side does not mean that he would not believe Jesus was alive until he thrust his hand into Jesus' mortal wound?


    Kerwin.

    I think Nick knows this.

    Humans must see with their eyes and touch ,feel and smell
    to believe. Jesus did it to proof that it was not just a vision or a dream.

    He also did it to Paul, for he was blinded for three days.
    To proof that it was not just a dream or a vision.

    wakeup.

    #381566
     NickHassan 
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    Hi WU,
    You prefer your ideas to the teaching of Jesus.
    nothing new there.

    #381572
     NickHassan 
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    Hi WU,
    Would you say the Lord was involved in LYING WONDERS?

    #381587
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Wakeup…….Your teaching is nothing new, the Gnostic's of Paul's and John's day taught the same thing, they believed Jesus was just a disguised God, a Spirit being disguised in a human body. This lead them to all kind of false teachings.

    That is why John repeated three times in his letters said that,   whosoever believes that Jesus Christ “CAME NOT” in the flesh “IS an  ANTICHRIST”,   this is you because you do not believe Jesus was pure Human being Just as we are, even though he said 80 times he was and he would return as one, you have added to the text you own personal views, but produce no scriptural proofs.  

    That is EXACTLY what Satan wants people to believe that Jesus was not a human being , that he was completely different then we are, you and all Trinitarians and Preexistence's are playing right into his hands and don't even realize it. Those false teaching of Jesus not being raise with a flesh and done body is all part of “MYSTERY RELIGION” and from the very synagogues of Satan himself.

    Nick and I have properly explained it to you, you simply refuse to believe the truth, Just as other false Trinitarian and Preexistence's teachers do, you have simply bought into the “BIGGEST LIE” ever told it is EXACTLY WHAT SATAN WANT YOU TO BELIEVE.

    Jesus Christ was and is a PURE HUMAN BEING, he was and is now,  and hss now, “PHYSICAL BODY”, that is being “SPIRITUALLY” sustained, Just as our Resurrected or Changed ,   PHYSICAL FLESH AND BONE BODIES Will be also.

    Know you not your “BODY” is the temple of the living God. You also do not believe God the Father was truly “IN” Jesus Because you believe Jesus was a GOD Himself even though He “PLAINLY Said in Prayer, FOR “THOU” ARE THE “ONLY' TRUE GOD

    You have bought the whole package hook, line, and sinker Wakeup. You are neglecting the words in Revelation, which says to us all,   come out of Her ” Mystery Babylon” (confusion), my people, that you receive not of her plagues. The plague of the false church and Her  teachings is babel or confusion.  IMO

    peace and love to you and yours……………………………….gene

    #381605
     NickHassan 
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    Hi GB,
    Whether or not the new body has any resemblance to flesh is unknown.
    We are told we will be like to the angels.
    Manna is the food of angels

    Psalm 78:25
    Man did eat angels' food: he sent them meat to the full.

    Revelation 2:17
    He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it

    #381607
     NickHassan 
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    Hi,
    Psalm 78:24
    And had rained down manna upon them to eat, and had given them of the corn of heaven.

    #381612
     kerwin 
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    Nick,

    I tend to believe that Jesus' resurrection is an example of the final resurrection as he is the firstborn of the dead.

    Since the body Jesus was raised in was flesh and bone and there is no evidence of any change in his body afterwards I see no reason to doubt that the resurrected body is flesh and bone.

    I know you believe Jesus bore wounds on his flesh but I disagree because the Koine Greek word for “in” and “on” are both the same word. I do know that every translation I have found does translate it as “in”.

    Some understand the words differently. The saying “I poked him in the side” does not mean that the poke entered the side of the one being poked. In a like way they believe Thomas put his finger in Jesus side but not in his wound.

    The question is should we assume it is speaking of him putting his finger in the Jesus' grievous wound or that he put it in the scar of the healed wound? Wakeup assumes the later.

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